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  • OHIO KILLSWITCH
    Rookie
    • Feb 2015
    • 8

    #316
    Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

    I've been trying to sell cards like Jabari Parker and other UR cards and I don't even get bids. I've wasted 100-200 credits just to have my cards not sell.

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    • OHIO KILLSWITCH
      Rookie
      • Feb 2015
      • 8

      #317
      Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

      I just don't see how all the cards are going unseen, like 95% of cards put up are going unsold.

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      • EliGKStar
        Rookie
        • Feb 2015
        • 115

        #318
        Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

        Originally posted by EliGKStar
        Here's my 2 cents on the AH beta:

        Overall great UI and very easy to use, and will expand the options in the game. the way I see it, user should be able to get a card or 2 of of the AH to improve his LU, but not jump from SR to STAR, and the current state seems to be exactly that.

        Bugs
        1. Sort seems not to work exactly as expected. sometimes it seems to take the previous search when displaying result.
        2. user can click the buttons while the 'enter number' window is opened (this might also be the way some users managed to bid with lower than minimum numbers...

        Features:
        1. option to filter by Pro/Non-pro/Fully trained. I know this can be obtained by 'sort by rating' or some filter of OFF, but it would be easier as a specific filter, and the sort can be used for something else (sort by minimum cost)

        2. option to sort by BIN value

        3. Notifications - much more complicated to implement... but it could be nice to set search criteria and get notifications that a card is on the market matching what you requested.

        Regulation
        Without going too deep into the actual numbers (30%, 20 post fee, minimums), I can just say that:

        1. everything got a market, if the price is right, even trained UC are being sold for players that wants a day off grinding... and the market will balance itself (as can be seen in the deals being made in the forum), I'm sure CD monitors all transactions, and I hope the numbers will be adjusted accordingly (of course the same price for PRO and single is a critical anomaly that should be addressed)

        2. if the 20 post fee is meant to keep the AH from spam, it would be fair to refund those credits (or half?) if the card has been sold (a clear indication this was not a 'spam' post...). this seems like a small amount, but if someone wants to sell trained UC, taking off 20 out of the coins he'll earned seems to be too much just for a 'regulation fee'.

        3. trade - this will happen, we have the technology... and CD gets their 30% of both sides. so it would be great if this could be part of the AH, instead of doing this outside of the game...

        Overall, as said before, I think the AH was well (and carefully) built, it did not 'broke' the game, and the idea one can buy one or two specific cards and advance a bit is good.
        with some minor adjustments, it will make for a fun addition to the grind-grind-grind part of the game.
        Thanks!
        4. There should be an option to 'pull back' an auction. if no-one bids on it, and you want the slot back (or maybe you need it now), option to cancel the auction. you will pay the 20 fee, and will get back the card.

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        • mister_k
          Rookie
          • Mar 2014
          • 217

          #319
          Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

          Will the AH close after beta ends or will it stay?

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          • Yonder
            Pro
            • Oct 2012
            • 635

            #320
            Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

            Originally posted by mister_k
            Will the AH close after beta ends or will it stay?
            It will close.

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            • NWGameDad
              Cat Daddy Games
              • Dec 2013
              • 1239

              #321
              Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

              Originally posted by mister_k
              Will the AH close after beta ends or will it stay?
              It wil close so we can make changes and bug fixes. On Monday morning we will prevent players from posting more auctions in order to let them bleed out for the Beta end on Wednesday at 5pm PST. That means you need to collect your Credits and Cards before that end date.
              NWGameDad
              Senior Producer
              Cat Daddy Games

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              • mister_k
                Rookie
                • Mar 2014
                • 217

                #322
                Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                Originally posted by NWGameDad
                It wil close so we can make changes and bug fixes. On Monday morning we will prevent players from posting more auctions in order to let them bleed out for the Beta end on Wednesday at 5pm PST. That means you need to collect your Credits and Cards before that end date.
                And is there an approximate date when it will come back? Or will it be "coming soon"?

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                • Dextro
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 1983

                  #323
                  Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                  Originally posted by ActionJack
                  I don't think you understand how delusional you sound.

                  If you don't want to spend money, and you don't have valuable goods to sell, WHY on Earth do you believe you should be able to get into the market? At a high level?

                  If you have a weak deck, and want to upgrade... you're gonna have to spend money or grind. CD isn't just gonna give away top level decks. It completely undermines their business, and it completely undermines the process of the game. The game would be stupid if everyone was just given amazing decks.
                  Just to make it clear, currently there is no market for newer players.
                  I do a lot of grinding and to me that is the main reason for the game, make your deck better on your own.
                  i don´t like those players who have 20 Games and do already have a Ultra Rare or Epic deck. You should begin from the Scratch, like everybody.

                  The market as it is right now, is just for a few players. Because for example lower tier players could provide higher tier players with trained Cards to avoid grinding from a certain stage on.
                  Just as one idea.

                  I don´t want tons of credits, I want a better market where everybody could participate theoretically.
                  If you follow the market you see what happened, Minimum bids where to high, so everybody is looking for ways to lower them.
                  A real market shouldn´t be like that, open it for everybody and let it growth by his own.

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                  • ActionJack
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 586

                    #324
                    Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                    Originally posted by Dextro
                    Just to make it clear, currently there is no market for newer players.
                    I do a lot of grinding and to me that is the main reason for the game, make your deck better on your own.
                    i don´t like those players who have 20 Games and do already have a Ultra Rare or Epic deck. You should begin from the Scratch, like everybody.

                    The market as it is right now, is just for a few players. Because for example lower tier players could provide higher tier players with trained Cards to avoid grinding from a certain stage on.
                    Just as one idea.

                    I don´t want tons of credits, I want a better market where everybody could participate theoretically.
                    If you follow the market you see what happened, Minimum bids where to high, so everybody is looking for ways to lower them.
                    A real market shouldn´t be like that, open it for everybody and let it growth by his own.
                    Even if there were no minimums at all, if you're not willing to spend money, and you have no valuable commodities, you're not gonna be able to participate in the market.

                    You have the option RIGHT NOW, to sell cheap trainer cards to lazy players. I don't think that's a viable strategy, but if you think it is, it's already available.

                    The only barrier to entry would be the 20 credit listing fee. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't put up 20 credits, that means two things: A) you haven't played NBA2K15 (even tnough there are easy ways to get around this) and B) you're not willing to spend $2 (!) to buy some credits. From the developer's perspective, if you're not willing to do either of these things... why should they care about you? You're a leach.

                    And I don't get how people have such terrible decks anyway.

                    I'm a free player, and before AH opened, I had 7 Star Pros. That's probably on the high side, but for people to still have no sellable cards at this point in the game's life.. it just means you don't really play much. There are TOO many ways to get great cards in this game already. Season rewards are SUPER generous, drop rates are exponentially better than last year, RC rewards are easily attainable.. If you don't have ANY to sell, you must not play the game much. So again, if that's the case, why should the developer create features based around your wants?

                    If you don't have cards to sell at this point, and/or you don't have $2 you're willing to spend to get started, I don't understand how you can be invested enough in this game to complain.

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                    • redsox4evur
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 18169

                      #325
                      Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                      Originally posted by NWGameDad
                      It wil close so we can make changes and bug fixes. On Monday morning we will prevent players from posting more auctions in order to let them bleed out for the Beta end on Wednesday at 5pm PST. That means you need to collect your Credits and Cards before that end date.
                      What time on Monday morning can we stop posting cards? Just wondering because I have a deal set up with someone and their season ends Monday morning.
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                      • Kabington
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 299

                        #326
                        Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                        What s supposed to happen after the beta?
                        Next steps and timeline?
                        send me a pm if my grammar or words are wrong... really

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                        • apos1914
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 6278

                          #327
                          Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                          Originally posted by NWGameDad
                          It wil close so we can make changes and bug fixes. On Monday morning we will prevent players from posting more auctions in order to let them bleed out for the Beta end on Wednesday at 5pm PST. That means you need to collect your Credits and Cards before that end date.
                          Can you please be a bit more specific about the time this will happen?
                          Bring Romar back!!!

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                          • Skitzomatic
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 12

                            #328
                            Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                            Originally posted by ActionJack
                            Even if there were no minimums at all, if you're not willing to spend money, and you have no valuable commodities, you're not gonna be able to participate in the market.

                            You have the option RIGHT NOW, to sell cheap trainer cards to lazy players. I don't think that's a viable strategy, but if you think it is, it's already available.

                            The only barrier to entry would be the 20 credit listing fee. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't put up 20 credits, that means two things: A) you haven't played NBA2K15 (even tnough there are easy ways to get around this) and B) you're not willing to spend $2 (!) to buy some credits. From the developer's perspective, if you're not willing to do either of these things... why should they care about you? You're a leach.

                            And I don't get how people have such terrible decks anyway.

                            I'm a free player, and before AH opened, I had 7 Star Pros. That's probably on the high side, but for people to still have no sellable cards at this point in the game's life.. it just means you don't really play much. There are TOO many ways to get great cards in this game already. Season rewards are SUPER generous, drop rates are exponentially better than last year, RC rewards are easily attainable.. If you don't have ANY to sell, you must not play the game much. So again, if that's the case, why should the developer create features based around your wants?

                            If you don't have cards to sell at this point, and/or you don't have $2 you're willing to spend to get started, I don't understand how you can be invested enough in this game to complain.
                            Either your lying or you have absolutely no life at all. The system is flawed hands down. Even if you spend money. Your still being taxed 30% on every sale which is rediculous. As a mid range player I should be able to sell at least one of my cards to a lower end player. But I can't cause they have no money.

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                            • redsox4evur
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 18169

                              #329
                              Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                              Originally posted by Skitzomatic
                              Either your lying or you have absolutely no life at all. The system is flawed hands down. Even if you spend money. Your still being taxed 30% on every sale which is rediculous. As a mid range player I should be able to sell at least one of my cards to a lower end player. But I can't cause they have no money.
                              The real flaw in the system is that there are not really that many credits to get in the game unless you buy them. I think that if they should change out you getting VC by playing QGs. And to make it so credits are still worth something give us like 5 credits or so per game played instead of the 50 VC. That way you still have to grind to buy a high tier card. Like if you wanted a legend with out doing the buy back method you would have to play 500 games to buy a legend.
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                              • ActionJack
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 586

                                #330
                                Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                                Originally posted by Skitzomatic
                                Either your lying or you have absolutely no life at all. The system is flawed hands down. Even if you spend money. Your still being taxed 30% on every sale which is rediculous. As a mid range player I should be able to sell at least one of my cards to a lower end player. But I can't cause they have no money.
                                Neither. Just play seasons. I don't understand how people have bad decks in this game. Play seasons. That's it. The rewards are ridiculous.

                                Then play RC. That doesn't apply really anymore, since RC rewards kinda suck now, relative to a decent deck.. But yeah... They give out great cards so easily in this game...
                                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                                The real flaw in the system is that there are not really that many credits to get in the game unless you buy them. I think that if they should change out you getting VC by playing QGs. And to make it so credits are still worth something give us like 5 credits or so per game played instead of the 50 VC. That way you still have to grind to buy a high tier card. Like if you wanted a legend with out doing the buy back method you would have to play 500 games to buy a legend.
                                Cat Daddy is a business. They're not gonna make it so that you don't have to spend money ever, and you get everything you want.

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