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[Behindshadows]

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"NBA2K9 is a much better game than Live graphically and gameplay wise. The only thing we got going for us is DNA and 365. I really hope we can catch up to them next year, but if they keep improving on what they have we will definitely be hard pressed to equal their game much less than beat it. I really only came here for the (extra money, more stable company, bigger market-any of these reasons can be filled ion) because I know what that 2K company has is a masterpiece waiting to be improved."

No it's not and no it isn't. 2k animates better, the graphics are not better. You've posted this numerous times in the 2k threads as well and it's not a valid argument maybe you should google graphics and animations and know the difference.

The graphics are better in Live. The animations are better in 2k and 2k's details are obviously better to players faces and the crowds animate at 60fps they aren't graphically better, but they animate better.

Now to grow on your question overall with the graphic details be better to the players faces next year along with the accessories where they look stitched and not claymation I want to know that myself. And will Live 10 animations be higher next year so the players move like they in natural motion.

[FadeEmAll]

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Man dude I swear you are following me around these threads trying to hound me until I make another "my nutz" post and get banned lol. I'm staying consistent in my message chief and for the life of me I can not understand your "animation" vs "graphics" argument.

"2K details are better to player faces and crowds animate at 60fps...." how does this not equal better graphics. When I say "graphics" I mean the player models, crowds, courts etc. It's better in 2K mayne

[Behindshadows]

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Man dude I swear you are following me around these threads trying to hound me until I make another "my nutz" post and get banned lol. I'm staying consistent in my message chief and for the life of me I can not understand your "animation" vs "graphics" argument.

"2K details are better to player faces and crowds animate at 60fps...." how does this not equal better graphics. When I say "graphics" I mean the player models, crowds, courts etc. It's better in 2K mayne

Lol...whatever you say my friend, I'm going to leave you alone on that subject.

But notice how Live 09 skin textures are much more realistic, and how they coach looks better, how none of the game drops a frame and no jaggies during graphics.

Then look at 2k how the player models are still some what cartoon like and the coach even looks like a cartoon and not as real as Live's does. And look at the square fingers on 2k and the jaggies around the players. These screenshots for both games are in 1080p.


NBA Live 09







NBA 2k9

[FadeEmAll]

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Yeah now those screenshots prove your point, damn mayne I got to check out my TV cause Live don't look that good on screen.

[jacory12]

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Yeah please don't even try to say 2k's graphics are better than live's because 2k's don't even come close.

[Behindshadows]

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Yeah please don't even try to say 2k's graphics are better than live's because 2k's don't even come close.

Me and FadeEmAll have already agreed, no need to start a fight

We finally found neutral grounds and we cool now!

But it isn't or should I say wasn't just him a lot people in the 2k threads continuously make the argument that Live's graphics don't look better.

Which brings me a question for the Triplets here on OS.

Devs: will you have more accurate faces next year, because this year the faces are terrible on almost 88% of the player models? Most of the mistakes are in the shapes of the heads, 100% in the noses, And the lips and eyes! So I guess the whole dang face. lol

Will this be corrected for NBA Live 10? You guys have an incredible graphics engine that is constantly getting wasted with poor amounts of details to the player models. And please push the crowd to 60fps, so it doesn't look so choppy during gameplay.

[DaWolf]

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Players do not care about how graphics looks on screenshots. The way Live moves is just awfull sorry. Graphics is also animations. And animations on 2K are soooooo much better.

[Behindshadows]

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Players do not care about how graphics looks on screenshots. The way Live moves is just awfull sorry. Graphics is also animations. And animations on 2K are soooooo much better.

animations are a part of animations. They manipulate graphics when in motion, but even with less animations Live's game never drops frames during movement. This makes it seem stiff, but it's really not! But the lack of animations will counter certain things and movements you can do in 2k because they have more animations.

Either way the GRAPHICS are better on Live hands down, say what you will about animations, but when the subject is graphics, EA wins that battle by far. Same with the graphics engine for NHL 09 vs 2k9, Madden and NCAA's engine etc. Their graphics engine is superior, but one thing we can agree on, once they start adding animations the fluidity of it will seem so much more bliss!

And we can all end this animation debate, they've already said in both of their interviews that Live 09 even frustrated them into throwing their controllers because they didn't have the animations to do certain things while playing their own game. It's been discussed to death and they are working on adding thousands more for Live 10.

So now I'm focusing questions on improving the graphics details.

[Beluba]

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So now I'm focusing questions on improving the graphics details.

I don't want to speak for the guys working on visuals... but they're doing some amazing work. Before I came to EA I was always impressed with the Art team on Live and the sheer quality of the graphics they were putting out. Like many of you, I wasn't too impressed with the player models and some of the likenesses... but based on what I've seen so far, you guys are going to be very happy with the graphical upgrade this year. When the screenshots start getting rolled out in a couple months, you guys will see what I mean.

[Behindshadows]

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I don't want to speak for the guys working on visuals... but they're doing some amazing work. Before I came to EA I was always impressed with the Art team on Live and the sheer quality of the graphics they were putting out. Like many of you, I wasn't too impressed with the player models and some of the likenesses... but based on what I've seen so far, you guys are going to be very happy with the graphical upgrade this year. When the screenshots start getting rolled out in a couple months, you guys will see what I mean.

Thanks for that update, that is one of my biggest pet peeves about this series. Just an outstanding graphics engine and poor details. But if you say they are getting better or looking much better I'll take your word for it.

And Beluba let them know to improve the length of the shorts to be more accurate sometimes they seem to be super tucked. lol

[mrclutch]

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Hey Developers,

Are you folks gonna up the number of created player slots for next year? on 2k I see were some guys re-create rosters for almost entire past seasons.

If so, can we expect to ge able to share rosters in the global files? I wouldn't ever make that many players myself but would like to mess around with some if someone else did.

[FadeEmAll]

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I don't want to speak for the guys working on visuals... but they're doing some amazing work. Before I came to EA I was always impressed with the Art team on Live and the sheer quality of the graphics they were putting out. Like many of you, I wasn't too impressed with the player models and some of the likenesses... but based on what I've seen so far, you guys are going to be very happy with the graphical upgrade this year. When the screenshots start getting rolled out in a couple months, you guys will see what I mean.

Yeah I'm glad you said that because, while Shadows has convinced me that you guys have better "graphics" you damn sure need to work on your "animations" and those fricking player models!!!! you all should be ashamed of yourselves. Look at those fools faces and bodies man!!!!

[Child Rebel]

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I don't want to speak for the guys working on visuals... but they're doing some amazing work. Before I came to EA I was always impressed with the Art team on Live and the sheer quality of the graphics they were putting out. Like many of you, I wasn't too impressed with the player models and some of the likenesses... but based on what I've seen so far, you guys are going to be very happy with the graphical upgrade this year. When the screenshots start getting rolled out in a couple months, you guys will see what I mean.

You guys are great.

[GHUGHES]

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Will the OTP glitch be fixed for NBA Live 09?

[edubbs]

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Will team playbooks be modified, to resemble the kinds of plays teams ran this year?