Why Do You People like this Game?

[sportyguyfl31]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

yo man, we got a real good thing going here. no need to justify anything, we're just getting some good perspective on why you like to play live more. I get that it's more fun to you so thats cool.

Sorry, didnt mean to get pissy. Some 2k folk act like because they play and like 2k, that it somehow makes them "better". It just grows tiresome.

Brings back memories of the "Live sucks! 2k ROOLS, 2k sucks Live ROOLS!" days.

[sirjam]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

I was thinking more along the lines of when the cpu doubles you how well or do they rotate at all. or when you beat them off the dribble how do they react. I have to say though that I would love to see a game where the best defender attemts to guard the best offensive player.

However the downside is if the code isn't tight I can see bowen checking in to guard D howard and then we have another problem.

Yeah exactly Czar. In 2k every player plays tight on defense and recover to quickly. Now I am not talking about when you have a hot player and they double and you get wide open looks. I am talking about when a player drives like Bron and the help comes and he kicks to a shooter spotting up. These are real life basketball strategy. Live does this very well imo. You can really drive and kick or swing the ball off the kick and get a nice look. The extra pass can really open up things in live when you catch the d in their rotations.
I don't know Czar I thought I saw the Bowen thing guarding the best player which was Kobe at the time. Not sure though I may have been seeing things. I will have to research and see if it happens or not.

[Walker8]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Yep Walker the predictability of the 2k game and lack of cut throat superstars is why I play live now. Also about the crowds in live that someone stated were not real like. I have to disagree with this. Now they are dead if you are playing on the road and you are winning but if they make a comeback. Oh Nelly, watch out. They really get into it. And the sound effects kick in and the crowd starts cheering defense, defense. I heard this and thought I was listening to a real game. Its hard to explain but if you see it you will know what I'm talking about.

I know exactly what you mean. The atmosphere and sound in this game is a beautiful thing.

[bls]

Hey Czar if your talking along the lines of putting your best defender on there best player for the whole game I believe they fixed it. Now Ive only tried it online in which no one ever puts there star player on the bench so Im sure What happens when a sub comes in. I would imagine that you would have to rearrange things again. But so far from what Ive seen no matter what position someone puts there best player in, if you switch your best defender to guard him he is always on him. This has been EXTREMELY huge for me in online play as Ive been able to put Prince on Kobe and Lebron and its made a world of difference as I dont always have to call for a double and can throw different defenses at my opponent.

Excellent fix devs!

[Court_vision]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

I was thinking more along the lines of when the cpu doubles you how well or do they rotate at all. or when you beat them off the dribble how do they react.

I know where you're coming from and there's no doubt that's something this game does really well.

[sportyguyfl31]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Now that I have my rational mind back, I'll post some reasons.

1). I feel like I am in 100% control of the my player at all times on offense and defense.

-- I never feel like there is a delay in movements, or an unresponsiveness when I want to pull off a move. If I want to jab step, dribble left, and cross over behind the back, I know if I move the sticks in the proper direction, the player will always perform the move. ..which leads me to..

2). I cant beat someone off of the dribble with these moves, with say, Chris Duhon..as easily as I can with Kobe Bryant.

--in 2k...I can do a behind the back, dribble to a crossover with steve novak, and I can either beat Gerald Wallace off of the dribble, or sliver my way into the paint until I can get a layup or drop the ball off to someone. Yet I can see Emeka Oakafor, lock up Tracy McGrady on a isolation the next trip down the court.

In Live, in my dynasty...I had a game against The Jazz where Jamal Crawford was just ripping Kyle Korver. Korver couldnt handle him off of the dribble at all. He went off for 30.

A few games later, I was playing the Lakers. Totally different. Kobe wasnt playing that, and most of Craw's pts came off of long jumpers. He only had 15 pts that game and they were a hard 15.

3) Floor spacing, which allows for drive and kick basketball.

--When do you most often see uncontested jumpers in a NBA game? Either on A) a scramble for a loose ball,B) off a long rebound, C) in transition, or D) off of dribble penetration.

Neither game does A or B well, C is more possible in 2k, though i have seen it better in Live post patch. Live absolutely, positively nails D. In 2k, this doesnt exist. Live's floor spacing is terrific and makes the court feel much less cluttered.

Steve Nash DESTROYED me on drive and kick, as well as pick and roll in a dynasty game. He would beat me, my defense would collapse to help, which would free up Raja Bell or Barbosa on the wings to clip me. When I tried to play Nash straight, he pulled up or layed up. he had 35, and 12.

4) Marv and Steve

--I love those 2. It feels like they are calling a real game. IT's like EA put them in a room, fired up a bunch of CPU vs CPU games, and said, "just call the action like you are doing a broadcast"

Kerr sometimes makes me laugh out loud, and Marv is well, Marv.

5) NBA Live tries to replicate the feel of being in a NBA arena. 2k tries to replicate the feel of a TNT NBA telecast.

--2k does this exceptionally well, I just prefer the NBA Arena "feel" better. There's a wonderful eb and flow to the crowd.

They start our rather subdued, and they respond with the flow of the game. As the game grows in intensity, so do they. If you have yourself a close game deep into the fourth, they have built into a roar. You'll be hearing chants of "MVP! MVP! MVP!" when a star gets on a roll, you'll hear the "DEFENSE!" chants, you'll hear the "Lets go Knicks" or "Lets go Lakers!"

The commentary will change and as well. Its a subtle thing, but it is there. Steve and Marv's voice will get a little more intense. He'll say something like: "And after being down by as many as <FILL blank the in>..they have cut the lead down to 5." and the crowd will respond. Kerr will say something like, "this is why you keep playing, the NBA game is a long game..etc et.."

It really draws you in.

6) The flow of the CPU game, its strategy and AI is better.

-This is the most underrated aspect of NBA Live in my opinion. The dirty little secret: its more sim then 2k in this department.

I was playing the memphis grizzlies and the minnesota t-wolves in dynasty and I saw both teams switch up to a zone defense for a few posessions. This is EXACTLY what they do in reality.

A) I had a game where Jamal Crawford had a 20 pt half..the cpu said, "enough of that." First play I ran called for him to come off a off ball screen: They trapped him off of the screen immediately. They did this for the entire half and he ended the game with only 26 pts.

B) I played the Sacramento Kings, and I assigned a double team right off the bat to Kevin Martin. for a lot of the 1st half, MArtin was getting trapped, throwing up forced jumpers, and guys like Mikki Moore, Beno Udrih, and John Salmons were taking all of the shots. "perfect" I saw.

The Cpu adjusted. Martin starting shooting right off the catch more, the CPU put him in spots where it took the double longer to get there, it had him cut to the basket. IT didnt just sit back and allow him to get trapped all game.

C) My last game against The Lakers: The CPU was establishing Gasol early. In fact, he was taking the majority of the shots, and Kobe was only getting a little here and there.

Since they were pounding the ball inside to gasol, I played zone for a while, and quickly had to get out of it as Kobe and Odom would cut to the basket, spot up for jumpers, and I got beat by a 3 or to by vlad.

Kobe then put on his assasin cape in the 4th and scored 10 pts int he quarter, despite my double team. He got some pts on the break, on catch and shoots, and had an absurd move where he split my double for a dunk.

He had a breakaway dunk where he did his signatuire hang on the rim and come off with his arms outstretched like a bird. It looked beautiful.

7) The game doesnt feel forced.

Again, I really believe NBA Live hs become the more sim game.


Kobe and Gasol got their points within the flow of the game. No half court alley oops, no laser backdoor cuts, no jet pack fast breaks, where my entire team simply decided to let everyone release on the outlet, no crazy and 1 windmills.

Everything felt natural and I never felt like I was cheated. N ot once. And I still lost...but I didnt mind, because I never felt like the cPU robbed me of the game.


I know this is rather long, sorry , but these are the reasons why I really enjoy this game.

[PuntNL]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Compliments on this thread... reading some real quality posts overhere! Came to the live forums, because I got a little tired of the slider adjustments, I just don't get it right this year with NBA 2K9. My biggest problem is the already earlier mentioned problem with floor spacing. it's just not there. Watched some gameplay vids of live and reading your stories, you all got me convinced. I want a basketball game with authenticity and a sim experience, but most important on top of that is fun. Something I am already searching for in NBA 2K9 for the last 2 months of slider adjustments.

Once again, you all got me convinced. I just picked up a copy of NBA Live 09 and will play it tonight. Curious if it can deliver authenticity, sim and most important fun straight out of the box.

[loadleft]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Reading this topic I now see what people mean when they say one game is sim and one is not, and why when I'm thinking the opposite while looking at the same thing we don't conclude the same thing. What I consider a sim is playing an authentic game of basketball regardless of who's on the floor, while apparently others is having a particular player shoot exactly like he does in real life or dribble, move, etc. For that reason I've went back to Live after switching to 2K earlier this year. I must admit though I really like how 2K makes you feel like you're watching a game on tv but TO ME that's the big difference between the two:

2K makes you feel like you're watching a game on TV players shoot, move dribble and just are authentic. While Live makes you feel like you're playing or in some way a part of a real game meaning you're trying to use basketbell strategy and fundamentals to win a basketball game with the bonus of using NBA players to do so. Also the controls for Live are far less complicated, this is silly I know, but it really erks me to have to move as in my user controlled player changes his location on the floor to do dribble moves. The thing that has re-sealed it for me with Live is it plays NBA BASKETBALL (in game) better than 2K and for me that matters more than an authentic representation of each individual player as in 2K, but I sure wish Live had the 2K presentation, LOL.

[23bluesman]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Compliments on this thread... reading some real quality posts overhere! Came to the live forums, because I got a little tired of the slider adjustments, I just don't get it right this year with NBA 2K9. My biggest problem is the already earlier mentioned problem with floor spacing. it's just not there. Watched some gameplay vids of live and reading your stories, you all got me convinced. I want a basketball game with authenticity and a sim experience, but most important on top of that is fun. Something I am already searching for in NBA 2K9 for the last 2 months of slider adjustments.

Once again, you all got me convinced. I just picked up a copy of NBA Live 09 and will play it tonight. Curious if it can deliver authenticity, sim and most important fun straight out of the box.

I think for most people this title can deliver a sim and fun experience out of the box. But with slider/ratings edits, it just becomes so much better.

[DaWolf]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

What I like about Live is that you can play the game the way you want to. I mean if your a pick and roll player you can create shots of it. if you want to post up your big men this is fun too. If you are looking to pass the ball around for an open jumper you can do that as well. I have the feeling that in 2K9 the way you approach your offense is limited because of a lot of issues like spacing and foot planting.

[LB23]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Now that I have my rational mind back, I'll post some reasons.

1). I feel like I am in 100% control of the my player at all times on offense and defense.

-- I never feel like there is a delay in movements, or an unresponsiveness when I want to pull off a move. If I want to jab step, dribble left, and cross over behind the back, I know if I move the sticks in the proper direction, the player will always perform the move. ..which leads me to..

2). I cant beat someone off of the dribble with these moves, with say, Chris Duhon..as easily as I can with Kobe Bryant.

--in 2k...I can do a behind the back, dribble to a crossover with steve novak, and I can either beat Gerald Wallace off of the dribble, or sliver my way into the paint until I can get a layup or drop the ball off to someone. Yet I can see Emeka Oakafor, lock up Tracy McGrady on a isolation the next trip down the court.

In Live, in my dynasty...I had a game against The Jazz where Jamal Crawford was just ripping Kyle Korver. Korver couldnt handle him off of the dribble at all. He went off for 30.

A few games later, I was playing the Lakers. Totally different. Kobe wasnt playing that, and most of Craw's pts came off of long jumpers. He only had 15 pts that game and they were a hard 15.

3) Floor spacing, which allows for drive and kick basketball.

--When do you most often see uncontested jumpers in a NBA game? Either on A) a scramble for a loose ball,B) off a long rebound, C) in transition, or D) off of dribble penetration.

Neither game does A or B well, C is more possible in 2k, though i have seen it better in Live post patch. Live absolutely, positively nails D. In 2k, this doesnt exist. Live's floor spacing is terrific and makes the court feel much less cluttered.

Steve Nash DESTROYED me on drive and kick, as well as pick and roll in a dynasty game. He would beat me, my defense would collapse to help, which would free up Raja Bell or Barbosa on the wings to clip me. When I tried to play Nash straight, he pulled up or layed up. he had 35, and 12.

4) Marv and Steve

--I love those 2. It feels like they are calling a real game. IT's like EA put them in a room, fired up a bunch of CPU vs CPU games, and said, "just call the action like you are doing a broadcast"

Kerr sometimes makes me laugh out loud, and Marv is well, Marv.

5) NBA Live tries to replicate the feel of being in a NBA arena. 2k tries to replicate the feel of a TNT NBA telecast.

--2k does this exceptionally well, I just prefer the NBA Arena "feel" better. There's a wonderful eb and flow to the crowd.

They start our rather subdued, and they respond with the flow of the game. As the game grows in intensity, so do they. If you have yourself a close game deep into the fourth, they have built into a roar. You'll be hearing chants of "MVP! MVP! MVP!" when a star gets on a roll, you'll hear the "DEFENSE!" chants, you'll hear the "Lets go Knicks" or "Lets go Lakers!"

The commentary will change and as well. Its a subtle thing, but it is there. Steve and Marv's voice will get a little more intense. He'll say something like: "And after being down by as many as <fill blank="" the="" in="">..they have cut the lead down to 5." and the crowd will respond. Kerr will say something like, "this is why you keep playing, the NBA game is a long game..etc et.."

It really draws you in.

6) The flow of the CPU game, its strategy and AI is better.

-This is the most underrated aspect of NBA Live in my opinion. The dirty little secret: its more sim then 2k in this department.

I was playing the memphis grizzlies and the minnesota t-wolves in dynasty and I saw both teams switch up to a zone defense for a few posessions. This is EXACTLY what they do in reality.

A) I had a game where Jamal Crawford had a 20 pt half..the cpu said, "enough of that." First play I ran called for him to come off a off ball screen: They trapped him off of the screen immediately. They did this for the entire half and he ended the game with only 26 pts.

B) I played the Sacramento Kings, and I assigned a double team right off the bat to Kevin Martin. for a lot of the 1st half, MArtin was getting trapped, throwing up forced jumpers, and guys like Mikki Moore, Beno Udrih, and John Salmons were taking all of the shots. "perfect" I saw.

The Cpu adjusted. Martin starting shooting right off the catch more, the CPU put him in spots where it took the double longer to get there, it had him cut to the basket. IT didnt just sit back and allow him to get trapped all game.

C) My last game against The Lakers: The CPU was establishing Gasol early. In fact, he was taking the majority of the shots, and Kobe was only getting a little here and there.

Since they were pounding the ball inside to gasol, I played zone for a while, and quickly had to get out of it as Kobe and Odom would cut to the basket, spot up for jumpers, and I got beat by a 3 or to by vlad.

Kobe then put on his assasin cape in the 4th and scored 10 pts int he quarter, despite my double team. He got some pts on the break, on catch and shoots, and had an absurd move where he split my double for a dunk.

He had a breakaway dunk where he did his signatuire hang on the rim and come off with his arms outstretched like a bird. It looked beautiful.

7) The game doesnt feel forced.

Again, I really believe NBA Live hs become the more sim game.


Kobe and Gasol got their points within the flow of the game. No half court alley oops, no laser backdoor cuts, no jet pack fast breaks, where my entire team simply decided to let everyone release on the outlet, no crazy and 1 windmills.

Everything felt natural and I never felt like I was cheated. N ot once. And I still lost...but I didnt mind, because I never felt like the cPU robbed me of the game.


I know this is rather long, sorry , but these are the reasons why I really enjoy this game.

See now those are the reasons I was looking for. I really do understand why so much of you like Live so much and the things you just pointed out makes me want to give it another chance so I can enjoy those aspects of the game too. I think my problem was that when I played Live I was trying to play it as if it were 2K, and doing that just got me so frustrated with the game. I think I'm going to go enjoy me some NBA Live now:wink:

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[jtdribbles25]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

2). I cant beat someone off of the dribble with these moves, with say, Chris Duhon..as easily as I can with Kobe Bryant.

--in 2k...I can do a behind the back, dribble to a crossover with steve novak, and I can either beat Gerald Wallace off of the dribble, or sliver my way into the paint until I can get a layup or drop the ball off to someone. Yet I can see Emeka Oakafor, lock up Tracy McGrady on a isolation the next trip down the court.

In Live, in my dynasty...I had a game against The Jazz where Jamal Crawford was just ripping Kyle Korver. Korver couldnt handle him off of the dribble at all. He went off for 30.

A few games later, I was playing the Lakers. Totally different. Kobe wasnt playing that, and most of Craw's pts came off of long jumpers. He only had 15 pts that game and they were a hard 15.

3) Floor spacing, which allows for drive and kick basketball.

--When do you most often see uncontested jumpers in a NBA game? Either on A) a scramble for a loose ball,B) off a long rebound, C) in transition, or D) off of dribble penetration.

Neither game does A or B well, C is more possible in 2k, though i have seen it better in Live post patch. Live absolutely, positively nails D. In 2k, this doesnt exist. Live's floor spacing is terrific and makes the court feel much less cluttered.

Steve Nash DESTROYED me on drive and kick, as well as pick and roll in a dynasty game. He would beat me, my defense would collapse to help, which would free up Raja Bell or Barbosa on the wings to clip me. When I tried to play Nash straight, he pulled up or layed up. he had 35, and 12.

I enjoyed your post save these points. my experience is completely the opposite. And vastly different with 2k's adjustments (sliders/rosters) In live I can do exactly the same moves with steve novak that I can with steve nash. where as in 2k there at least are different packages for the players which reduces the likelyhood of the same exact moves. And like I said with sliders you can't even pull off those moves with a lower rated ball handler.

2k's Steve nash will also kill you the same way plus run pick and pop with amare.
point being these games aren't very far apart in these points imo....however lives dna is huge in setting the tendencies of the players to represent the overall more authentic "on court" representation...

[Walker8]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

Now that I have my rational mind back, I'll post some reasons.

1). I feel like I am in 100% control of the my player at all times on offense and defense.

-- I never feel like there is a delay in movements, or an unresponsiveness when I want to pull off a move. If I want to jab step, dribble left, and cross over behind the back, I know if I move the sticks in the proper direction, the player will always perform the move. ..which leads me to..

2). I cant beat someone off of the dribble with these moves, with say, Chris Duhon..as easily as I can with Kobe Bryant.

--in 2k...I can do a behind the back, dribble to a crossover with steve novak, and I can either beat Gerald Wallace off of the dribble, or sliver my way into the paint until I can get a layup or drop the ball off to someone. Yet I can see Emeka Oakafor, lock up Tracy McGrady on a isolation the next trip down the court.

In Live, in my dynasty...I had a game against The Jazz where Jamal Crawford was just ripping Kyle Korver. Korver couldnt handle him off of the dribble at all. He went off for 30.

A few games later, I was playing the Lakers. Totally different. Kobe wasnt playing that, and most of Craw's pts came off of long jumpers. He only had 15 pts that game and they were a hard 15.

3) Floor spacing, which allows for drive and kick basketball.

--When do you most often see uncontested jumpers in a NBA game? Either on A) a scramble for a loose ball,B) off a long rebound, C) in transition, or D) off of dribble penetration.

Neither game does A or B well, C is more possible in 2k, though i have seen it better in Live post patch. Live absolutely, positively nails D. In 2k, this doesnt exist. Live's floor spacing is terrific and makes the court feel much less cluttered.

Steve Nash DESTROYED me on drive and kick, as well as pick and roll in a dynasty game. He would beat me, my defense would collapse to help, which would free up Raja Bell or Barbosa on the wings to clip me. When I tried to play Nash straight, he pulled up or layed up. he had 35, and 12.

4) Marv and Steve

--I love those 2. It feels like they are calling a real game. IT's like EA put them in a room, fired up a bunch of CPU vs CPU games, and said, "just call the action like you are doing a broadcast"

Kerr sometimes makes me laugh out loud, and Marv is well, Marv.

5) NBA Live tries to replicate the feel of being in a NBA arena. 2k tries to replicate the feel of a TNT NBA telecast.

--2k does this exceptionally well, I just prefer the NBA Arena "feel" better. There's a wonderful eb and flow to the crowd.

They start our rather subdued, and they respond with the flow of the game. As the game grows in intensity, so do they. If you have yourself a close game deep into the fourth, they have built into a roar. You'll be hearing chants of "MVP! MVP! MVP!" when a star gets on a roll, you'll hear the "DEFENSE!" chants, you'll hear the "Lets go Knicks" or "Lets go Lakers!"

The commentary will change and as well. Its a subtle thing, but it is there. Steve and Marv's voice will get a little more intense. He'll say something like: "And after being down by as many as <FILL blank the in>..they have cut the lead down to 5." and the crowd will respond. Kerr will say something like, "this is why you keep playing, the NBA game is a long game..etc et.."

It really draws you in.

6) The flow of the CPU game, its strategy and AI is better.

-This is the most underrated aspect of NBA Live in my opinion. The dirty little secret: its more sim then 2k in this department.

I was playing the memphis grizzlies and the minnesota t-wolves in dynasty and I saw both teams switch up to a zone defense for a few posessions. This is EXACTLY what they do in reality.

A) I had a game where Jamal Crawford had a 20 pt half..the cpu said, "enough of that." First play I ran called for him to come off a off ball screen: They trapped him off of the screen immediately. They did this for the entire half and he ended the game with only 26 pts.

B) I played the Sacramento Kings, and I assigned a double team right off the bat to Kevin Martin. for a lot of the 1st half, MArtin was getting trapped, throwing up forced jumpers, and guys like Mikki Moore, Beno Udrih, and John Salmons were taking all of the shots. "perfect" I saw.

The Cpu adjusted. Martin starting shooting right off the catch more, the CPU put him in spots where it took the double longer to get there, it had him cut to the basket. IT didnt just sit back and allow him to get trapped all game.

C) My last game against The Lakers: The CPU was establishing Gasol early. In fact, he was taking the majority of the shots, and Kobe was only getting a little here and there.

Since they were pounding the ball inside to gasol, I played zone for a while, and quickly had to get out of it as Kobe and Odom would cut to the basket, spot up for jumpers, and I got beat by a 3 or to by vlad.

Kobe then put on his assasin cape in the 4th and scored 10 pts int he quarter, despite my double team. He got some pts on the break, on catch and shoots, and had an absurd move where he split my double for a dunk.

He had a breakaway dunk where he did his signatuire hang on the rim and come off with his arms outstretched like a bird. It looked beautiful.

7) The game doesnt feel forced.

Again, I really believe NBA Live hs become the more sim game.


Kobe and Gasol got their points within the flow of the game. No half court alley oops, no laser backdoor cuts, no jet pack fast breaks, where my entire team simply decided to let everyone release on the outlet, no crazy and 1 windmills.

Everything felt natural and I never felt like I was cheated. N ot once. And I still lost...but I didnt mind, because I never felt like the cPU robbed me of the game.


I know this is rather long, sorry , but these are the reasons why I really enjoy this game.

That was an good post man. This game does the strong things right and that's really what is important. I love how you can drive and then back away and hit the open jumper and how the momentum system really makes a difference. I've been playing a lot with different pgs and I know exactly what you are saying about how certain players just give you a different feeling. I play the hawks and i really dont like using them because Bibby is not that strong when it comes to breaking down a defense. I use Charlotte or Boston or the Clippers because Rondo and Felton and Davis are much quicker and you can really break down a defense with them. I also like using Canada with Nash in the fiba tourney. I dont get this feeling in the other game and its too easy to just get to the hoop with anyone.

I know people say that teams and players dont feel different in this game but i disagree. I love using the teams i do because they have a good balance of quickness and defense and shooters... Using Gerald Wallace and Camby on D is a blast in this game. When i first got it it wasnt so much that way but since they patched it it is.. I was playing Boston vs charlotte the other night and Augustine was lighting me up off the bench just like in the real game the night before. It felt so real. I'm seeing teams fast break and push the tempo and all sorts of stuff since they patched it.

The thing is there is a definate adjustment with this game in control going from the other game, but once you get used to it's really smooth.

As far as having full control over certain guys I don't know how to explain that but Live jsut gives me a feeling like there is something mroe to what i'm doing and that i'm in more control of what i'm doing. That's the whole organic thing, but the quickstrike animations and teh speed of the way players collide and interact it just gives that feel like i'm twisting through the lane and flipping up a shot with my left hand, or i'm hanging in the air, taking hte contact and hitting hte shot. IT still can be improved and no game has really captured that yet, but i dont get that feeling at all in the other game, where in this one i do in some regards... I dont know why or what it is, but i just do.

[Sluggo]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

To be honest, I quit playing Live last week. Can't start a real dynasty mode because some of the players on the roster aren't being updated. DNA, yes. Ratings, no. The shooting is iffy at best. Sometimes I go for a jumpshot and you can't control the release point. It's like as soon as I hit the shoot button, the shot leaves the player hands so it's no chance to release it at it's highest peak. The D controls are weak. You don't know how many times I get sucked into defending the ball handler when he's not the one I'm NOT trying to guard.
Like someone else said, the coaching sliders are broken. They do nothing for me. The auto-sub is broken. I can also drop 50 points using Oberto in the post while Duncan goes 2/16.

[DirtyJerz32]

Re: Why Do You People like this Game?

This is probably the best thread that I have read since being a memeber of the OS family. Lots of information being given and with out immature post. Keep up the great work guys.

To add my own comments:

The overall feel of the game and the way it flows are great. I love the spacing, and ball movement from the cpu. Superstars hold on to the ball more than no stars.

Live has done an outstand job with this years game. I think Czar said it best. 2K does a better job after a player gets the ball as far as moves at it's disposal and animations. Live does a great job of getting guys in the right spots.

I've been going back between both games and I think one aspect of the game has me playing this more. Two words "Foot Planting!" There is sliding in both games but when I see TMac catch the ball on the wing give me a hard jab step in one direction and explode the other way it's a thing of beauty. When I attempt the same thing in 2K it's more a soft jab and electric slide the other way. I don't know any other way to explain it. JMHO.

Keep this thread going guys because there is a ton of information in this thread. Yes, there are somethings that Live needs to work on next year but, IMO 2010 is going to one hell of a season for basketball video games!!!