Hate to say it but this game seems scripted

[BlackBerry]

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This game is good. It feels well, the animations are smooth, the controls are good, it's got a very welcoming atmosphere to it.

But the AI is the sole downfall of the game. I'm having fun don't get me wrong, but when Travis Diener starts hitting contested 3-pointers and pullup jumpers on me and gets 14 points in a quarter, something is wrong. The AI takes a lot of quick shots, makes a lot of quick and contested shots, and finds itself easily in the ball game whenever they want to because of it. If only Live had a tendencies slider like 2K does.

Hopefully this is addressed in the next patch. All they have to do is lower the AI tendencies to the point where they aren't shooting every shot they get.

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

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Hopefully this is addressed in the next patch. All they have to do is lower the AI tendencies to the point where they aren't shooting every shot they get.

huh?...

[TreyIM2]

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Bottom line, some people "get it" and some just don't. The PS3 2K10 demo came out yesterday and even though I already played the retail a SMIDGE at a Best Buy last week, I tried, I really tried to get into the demo since I was a 2Ker for so long -NAH, can't do it, won't do it. I can't stomach that game anymore. Live 10 is on some real depth that's not been done before. Yes, it's not perfect but the overalls make me wanna actually play a FULL 82 game season for the first time EVER.
I actually read a review of both on one site where they "get it", even giving Live 10 a better score than 2K10. All I could say was "FINALLY!!" but if you don't understand what's happening in this game, just stay away from it and play 2K10. It's your choice.

[djslimk]

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23, dat swag and donkey you guys are definitely right. It all comes down to the user. I myself don't have these problems people are having. Yeah maybe sometimes a player might get a couple things he shouldn't be getting but as far as runs is concerned I can stop them. You gotta look at your mismatches as well. Make sure you go to them and force the CPU to adjust which will open up things for your teammates. If some of your players don't have good onball defense do not set them to play tight. You want them either normal or loose and you want to provide help for them (especially if they are guarding a star player.

Also, play around with the double team adjustments. If you keep everyone on auto that means your cpu defenders will always provide help for those players that you have it set to auto. Now if you change it to NO for say someone like Ben Wallace then whomever is guarding him will not get any help at all from his teammates. They will stay glued to their assignment. This good for when you play teams that have good shooters as you dont want the player that guarding say a Ray Allen to leave him and provide help to Ben Wallace.

If you notice your team is just getting beat consistently in man D then switch to a zone. Gotta mix things up and try different things. You'll notice its not so difficult to stop a run.

I totally agree. I felt the game was scripted etc. I read through the forums and worked on my game. I played 3 games in a row against the Heat and was getting mauled as the Wizards. Finally I started playing as the defender all the time, calling time outs during a run, driving and hitting the open man, calling set plays etc. 4th game I held Wade to under 20 points came back from a 5 point deficit with 15 seconds to go to OT (there were a few runs, but when Miami went on a 10 point run, it was my fault). The biggest thing about this, in OT Miami went COLD, my D was stifling, I was stepping into passing lanes, making steals, contesting shots etc. If you play this game like real basketball (not the run and gun push up the court etc. shoot of the top) it rewards you, and is, in my mind AMAZING.

[moemoe24]

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As much as i like this game i feel the same way. My theory is that it;s the DNA. As grounbreaking as it is i think the players on the court look for that "spot" their supposed to b at instead of using basketball logic. I get sick of the cpu having a drive to the hoop and pulling up for that jumper because its coded into the DNA. I dont usually compare live to the "other game" but it's amazing how smart the ai is in that game. Someone mentioned Rip Hamillton, If Rips got a lane to the hole he should slash not pull up for a j because its in his DNA. I hope they everything out cause i like the game alot but there alot of annoying little quirks. Just my 2 cents.

I've never understood those who comlain about games being scripted. I mean, it's a computer program so of course its scripted. The only way for it not to be scripted is to be able to mash real players into your system and somehow control them.

[Muzyk23]

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So happy that I'm not experiencing those issues so far. Having a blast right now!!

[Chairman7w]

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I've never understood those who comlain about games being scripted. I mean, it's a computer program so of course its scripted. The only way for it not to be scripted is to be able to mash real players into your system and somehow control them.

I just wonder what all the "This game is scripted!" crowd says when they win.

Is it scripted THEN too? Either it's scripted or it isn't. Either there's comeback AI or there isn't.

I think it's just an excuse when things don't go your way, "No Way!! I lost! This game is scripted!"

[The 24th Letter]

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lol, ive yet to see a person complain b/c they were losing though...im 12-3 in my dynasty, and yeah...im still very annoyed when players like Ronnie Brewer hits clutch, contested j's...

[Bootzilla]

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@ Boot.....yeah, at this point im winning games and having fun..thats not the issue...my problem is players like ronnie brewer hitting contested j's and random foul calls to seemingly keep the team in it...i absolutely have no problem with d will an booz doing that...

Yep. I played the Kings (they're awful) and while they didn't mount any comebacks they did some ill stuff to not get blown out by 40. Spencer Hawes driving from the top of the key and doing a Euro step lay up????? TWICE!!!!!!!!! Sean May getting offensive boards like he's Dennis Rodman and springing up and tomahawking like he's Shaq in Orlando. C'mon man. I love the game and when you micro-manage your defensive assignments the runs aren't as pronounced but there is some random shenanigans that take away from the experience.

[nccomicfan]

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I just wonder what all the "This game is scripted!" crowd says when they win.

Is it scripted THEN too? Either it's scripted or it isn't. Either there's comeback AI or there isn't.

I think it's just an excuse when things don't go your way, "No Way!! I lost! This game is scripted!"

I love how if we have a problem with the game" oh it's you...you don't like losing ..blah blah"

Amazing how there are suddenly so many Live fanboys riding what THEY think is the winning bandwagon

[Pared]

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Cut the fanboy comments out.

You're right, people are not reading the context of the thread and chalking it up to losing. But there's no need for the name calling which will ultimately derail the thread.

Guys need to spend less time making their own posts before reading the thread.

[nccomicfan]

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Cut the fanboy comments out.

You're right, people are not reading the context of the thread and chalking it up to losing. But there's no need for the name calling which will ultimately derail the thread.

Guys need to spend less time making their own posts before reading the thread.

Ok....sorry to the apologists. It's just shocking to me how this game is suddenly the GOAT

[Chairman7w]

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My bad nccomicfan, the "you guys are losing" comments I had were out of line.

But my point remains, when people post about winning wire-to-wire, or heck, even losing wire-to-wire, doesn't that throw the "scripting" accusations out the window?


PS - Naaww, not the GOAT, just the best live game so far, for sure.

[bls]

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Cut the fanboy comments out.

You're right, people are not reading the context of the thread and chalking it up to losing. But there's no need for the name calling which will ultimately derail the thread.

Guys need to spend less time making their own posts before reading the thread.

I don't think it's so much as people reading out of context. I think it's more so of some people just not having the same problems.

Honestly, and this is just my opinion. But I think it more so has to do with skill and how you play. Some people may be great at the game then you have those people that are even beyond that. That know how to get their players in the right position. That know how to make the proper adjustments. Who to go to at the right times. Running a spread offense and not relying on just 1 guy.

Not saying those that are having problems can't or don't do it, but if you have some that are NOT having the same issues what can you say that is due to?

[The 24th Letter]

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Well you could ask the same thing to the people that ARE experiencing this...which is a fair amount. Like stated before, alot of people arent complaining that theyre simply losing, but how the cpu competes. It could simply be a preference or perception thing. Some may just not care who hits what shots in whatever situation, so they cant identify. Either way, I think its been expressed enough that it should be viewed as a valid discussion..