Hate to say it but this game seems scripted

[Bootzilla]

Re: Hate to say it but this game seems scripted

It's just that it differs so much from user to user. Durant dropping 52 is fine on a one off game. If he's doing it on a consistent basis though, that's a problem.

I'd just love to see how some people play. When you get attacked with a run, you can get caught up and your tempo increases, you force shots, make turnovers, etc. A run against seems normal. Of all the games I've played so far, only one run has been like that. The others are I notice a run and that's it. It comes down to me using the whole shot clock, calling timeouts, only using my star guy to iso, etc.

So I don't understand why people can't deal with these runs if some can. I do however understand the BS crap during a run (fadeaway threes, role players taking over) and that's no good. Hopefully the patch fixes that up but for runs in general, I just don't get it. As I said though, I don't know how everyone plays but I do think a lot get caught up in the tempo of a run. Even if you miss a lot of shots, using the entire shot clock, calling timeouts, etc, slows a run a lot.

The problem isn't dealing with runs. It's dealing with runs EVERY game. Regardless of the skill level of the team. It's become so redundant. Good defensive teams aren't well represented. When the cpu decides to go off the Celtics or Spurs can't thwart a 35 point quarter because all of the sudden they are 4 feet away from open shooters. All of the sudden it becomes impossible to stop role players, etc. Groundhog Day.

[donkey33]

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Dealing with runs also happens when they don't occur based on how you play. I haven't faced runs every game I've played so that's maybe why I think it's fine but I can see if people are seeing them against every team that it could get annoying and feel scripted.

I still think it comes back to user. Some people are better at this game than others or some are better defenders whilst some are better offensive players. 10 guys who have never played the game before will probably experience any team going on runs against him. 10 guys who know the game inside won't because they are better at the game.

[rockchisler]

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Dealing with runs also happens when they don't occur based on how you play. I haven't faced runs every game I've played so that's maybe why I think it's fine but I can see if people are seeing them against every team that it could get annoying and feel scripted.

I still think it comes back to user. Some people are better at this game than others or some are better defenders whilst some are better offensive players. 10 guys who have never played the game before will probably experience any team going on runs against him. 10 guys who know the game inside won't because they are better at the game.

No it doesnt come back to the user, u see how long this thread has gotten, I was playing the retail version before ANYBODY had this game, Ive played it a ton, it is not a user issue, If D. Wade goes off I understand but if Jason Hart or some other scrub is banging fadeaway 3's while u go icey, it is scripted.

[The 24th Letter]

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I was just pinging someone...thought I was on to something...decided to take Kirilenko out of the game...sagging off him to guard the paint...

up 8 with 7 mins left....

quick run by the jazz

contested williams 2...ok cool
millsap fadeaway from the free throw line
koufis(sp) fadeaway (i dont know this guy, can he do that? lol)
contested brewer jumpshot

****!

lets see what I can do to finish this off

[Jano]

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I agree wih you Kid, but I think the problem for a lot of people is....there are times when bonner doesnt get that 20 and 10 by spotting up and shooting....but by rather making contested shots with the game in the balance...it should happen with a capable role player every once in a while though...

There are also times I feel that the CPU simply disregards the "rules of the game"....I had CPU Okafor dribble in a crowd of my defenders and remain balanced, when this would have been a instant steal for me, even with a medium tier PG..

This is my problem right here

And I agree Kid I don't have a problem w/ role players going off from time to time. But its just the way they do it where I have a problem.

If Bonner is killing me off jump shots alone I have no beef but when he's taking me off the dribble and dunking that is a big issue for me. For one if he does this I should be able to strip him easily if not I should be able to force him into a bad shot.

But in this game on D when the CPU gets a aggressive taking it to the rack its tough to stop. What usually happens to me here is I get called for a foul.

If this was Kobe I could deal w/ but not Bonner especially when he does this repeatedly to me. At that point I just feel helpless to stop him and imo this isn't something I should be going through when guarding a one dimensional role player.

Maybe I just suck on D and need to improve but even then it still shouldn't be that difficult to stop.

[tcain80]

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L4D's sliders worked pretty well.

[rockchisler]

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Still nice to know that after all these years if you are a 7'0 olf (Ziggy )u can still guard players faster then you and prevent them from getting to the hole ( Mike Miller). Un f'n believable...

[donkey33]

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No it doesnt come back to the user, u see how long this thread has gotten, I was playing the retail version before ANYBODY had this game, Ive played it a ton, it is not a user issue, If D. Wade goes off I understand but if Jason Hart or some other scrub is banging fadeaway 3's while u go icey, it is scripted.

I mean user issue in regards to how good you are. Not how long you've played. I don't care if you got the game last year or have played 1000 games. If you're bad, you're bad and that's what I mean by user issue.

What you're describing has nothing to do with the topic. DWade or Hart going off is a DNA and game issue. Not something running to a script. I covered my argument on runs and how I think they are on the user. What occurs during a run needs to be patched (fadeaways, etc) but there is nothing wrong with runs in general IMO. If people can stop them or do not experience them every game, it's not scripted.

Also, mismatches are done very well in this game. I've read that many times by others so once again, user issue.

[23]

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No it doesnt come back to the user, u see how long this thread has gotten, I was playing the retail version before ANYBODY had this game, Ive played it a ton, it is not a user issue, If D. Wade goes off I understand but if Jason Hart or some other scrub is banging fadeaway 3's while u go icey, it is scripted.

So have I rock and I just learned how to break the AI off completely a couple of days ago.

See this score from my 5 min. dynasty game

Home Team Nuggets
Away Team Warriors
Home Score 63
Away Score 45
Quarter 4th

Guess who went on that run? I did, and I prevented them from doing it... this of course is with Curry still scoring on me but I figured some things out about this game.

I use the 1-3-1 zpne mostly in the 4th coupled with the 2-3... I control the middle guy in the 1-3-1, set the defense to tight on anyone that isnt fast like an Iverson, or Devin Harris..

I trust my teammates who are actually pretty helpful, and jump in and help or swith to someone if need be...

On offense I iso my star player. When they clear the floor I take the defense off the dribble like this

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/11565670

Once they start collapsing they're leaving my teammates open, leaving holes. Main thing is dont run up the floor every single time just because they scored or because the crowd cheers for them. Take your time, set up the offense, lay off the turbo so much and let the game flow, and before you know it you're making a run on them.

[TreyIM2]

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So have I rock and I just learned how to break the AI off completely a couple of days ago.

See this score from my 5 min. dynasty game


Guess who went on that run? I did, and I prevented them from doing it... this of course is with Curry still scoring on me but I figured some things out about this game.

I use the 1-3-1 zpne mostly in the 4th coupled with the 2-3... I control the middle guy in the 1-3-1, set the defense to tight on anyone that isnt fast like an Iverson, or Devin Harris..

I trust my teammates who are actually pretty helpful, and jump in and help or swith to someone if need be...

On offense I iso my star player. When they clear the floor I take the defense off the dribble like this

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/11565670

Once they start collapsing they're leaving my teammates open, leaving holes. Main thing is dont run up the floor every single time just because they scored or because the crowd cheers for them. Take your time, set up the offense, lay off the turbo so much and let the game flow, and before you know it you're making a run on them.

I actually just finished up 3 straight 5min qrtr games and some of what's being said by 23 is correct but basically, as others have said, u gotta know how to play b-ball. I have NO scripted moments. U gotta utilize your players, plays, and situations to the fullest. Someone heats up, double em. One of your players goes cold, spread the ball around and use your plays wisely. I could go on and on but my dude, you gotta use your noggin and stop with letting your ego telling you that it isn't YOU who is not ballin' properly because it GOTTA be the CPU.
Now u say it happens online as well? Well, I can't speak to that. I don't like online gaming that much and do it very little and ONLY against people I know. I learned that lesson years ago.

All I can say is don't let your mind run places to take the blame away from yourself. Use the force, Luke...

[bls]

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23, dat swag and donkey you guys are definitely right. It all comes down to the user. I myself don't have these problems people are having. Yeah maybe sometimes a player might get a couple things he shouldn't be getting but as far as runs is concerned I can stop them. You gotta look at your mismatches as well. Make sure you go to them and force the CPU to adjust which will open up things for your teammates. If some of your players don't have good onball defense do not set them to play tight. You want them either normal or loose and you want to provide help for them (especially if they are guarding a star player.

Also, play around with the double team adjustments. If you keep everyone on auto that means your cpu defenders will always provide help for those players that you have it set to auto. Now if you change it to NO for say someone like Ben Wallace then whomever is guarding him will not get any help at all from his teammates. They will stay glued to their assignment. This good for when you play teams that have good shooters as you dont want the player that guarding say a Ray Allen to leave him and provide help to Ben Wallace.

If you notice your team is just getting beat consistently in man D then switch to a zone. Gotta mix things up and try different things. You'll notice its not so difficult to stop a run.

[Playmakers]

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No it doesnt come back to the user, u see how long this thread has gotten, I was playing the retail version before ANYBODY had this game, Ive played it a ton, it is not a user issue, If D. Wade goes off I understand but if Jason Hart or some other scrub is banging fadeaway 3's while u go icey, it is scripted.

Well for one the shooting touch rating and clutch rating are way overated in this game.

I've gone through the entire league in a week and the ratings are way too high for SCRUBS in many categories especially shooting.

Has anyone ever seen the CPU shoot an air ball or actually shoot a real brick?

All that factors in their shooting touch and I can stand outside at mid range with bum fuch 7'0 center and very rarely brick a jumper let alone shoot an air ball. If EA toned down the shooting touch and some of these weird azzz high ratings for half the scrubs/role plyers in this game it would make a helluva difference between player seperation.

I'm no fool DNA has no factor on shooting touch or Clutch ability. That shiiit is programmed wrong and they really need to re-evaluate half the ratings. It's no different from the Vertical and Agility ratings. The reason why a lot of guys see instant success when those ratings are reduced down is because they were TOO HIGH to begin with and that applys to a lot of the shooting ratings in the game for those same scrubs people are complaining about right now.

At some point common sense has to be used. They need to gather up all the data on half of these scrubs and just use real basketball sense when it comes to guys who don't even get off the bench let alone suit up every night.

There should be ZERO possibility that a guy who has played 10 years in NBA who hasn't hit one game winner or 3-PT shot in his career be rated a 50 in anything that dealing with those aspects of gameplay. I should have no chance in hell of beating anyone with Quinton Ross launching J's in the 4th qtr especially down the stretch of any game. How ever I should be able to use Ross as a perimeter defender and have him make an IMPACT that way in the clutch.

In Live 10 it's totally the opposite I have more success with Ross on offense than I do defense. He's considered a defensive specialist around the league and a guy who lacks offensive game. Yet i constantly knock down J's with him but then some garbage wing player off the opposing team bench will make Ross look like crap defensively even though i beat him to the spot and stopped his initial move. He'll put up some mid range jumper with me contesting the shot and that 6-8 secoinds i played terrific man defense just went down the drain vs a scrub like Devean BRICKHOUSE George

[Jano]

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Also, play around with the double team adjustments. If you keep everyone on auto that means your cpu defenders will always provide help for those players that you have it set to auto. Now if you change it to NO for say someone like Ben Wallace then whomever is guarding him will not get any help at all from his teammates. They will stay glued to their assignment. This good for when you play teams that have good shooters as you dont want the player that guarding say a Ray Allen to leave him and provide help to Ben Wallace.

Didn't no about this I'm definitely going to give this a try sounds like it can fix a few of my issues.

PM I can't wait for you to release your rosters I think its going to make a huge difference in the game.

[fffffffff9]

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Take your time, set up the offense, lay off the turbo so much and let the game flow, and before you know it you're making a run on them.

Yes!

I agree that the runs could be more subtle, but they really are easy to stop if you know your b-ball IQ.

[fluent2332]

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yep, what 23 said. it's very easy to be lulled into playing a fast paced game and all of a sudden you get run out of the building.

this game mimics the real nba. it will punish you and make you sit in the corner if you don't play smart basketball. teams are going to go on runs, will you be able to slow them down? it takes a strong resolve and a lot of patience to do so. go to your go to guys on offense. no pick and rolls with role players. no quick shots with RPers. i could write a short essay on the topic so i'll stop here. i just strongly urge those who feel its 'scripted' to really take their time and figure the game out more. if people still need help after that, maybe i'll post an in depth topic about it