Re: Honest thoughts on the post game

[jtdribbles25]

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I didnt even mention 2k because i dont care to bring them up.

You're asking me about mbenga vs bynum then there is the bynum vs kobe issue

bynum vs birdman

Moves aside of what you saw Duncan do, guards do it too, I just showed you Birdman back down Diesel, so why cant he do it to Dwight or anybody else? The ability shouldnt even be there.


Why is Bynum doing stepbacks on me man? Then pull back fadeaways. Why is Dwight and Shaq pulling off the T Rex fade?

These are issues that shouldnt be even in their arsenal.

i feel ya. I thought we were really talkin core post game mechanics. Issues with what player can and can't do is a whooooole different bag. And again, I agree. Obviously a lot goes into how we all play the game. When I see an nba game I don't see a bunch of post pllays, it's a guards league. When I play nba live it's a perimeter oriented game. When some of these things occur I still see it more as an occurance and not the norm. Birdman is not abusing me in any way. ya feel me.

[eDotd]

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I don't think anyone is saying it's the norm, and I doubt Birdman is abusing or dominating anyone. The fact that he has the ability and that it happens in the first place is what's annoying.

Are having the mechanics in place good enough? Or do you put more stock in signature style.

Why can't there be both? I don't think adding some individuality to this game has anything to do with mechanics of the game.

This game captures the overall feel and flow of the NBA(aside from the fastbreaks), but severely lacks the star power and individuality. If they can get the core elements in order, add enough situational animations and sig animations, we'd be in for something special(and for me personally the AI would need to be in order).

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[23]

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I don't think anyone is saying it's the norm, and I doubt Birdman is abusing or dominating anyone. The fact that he has the ability and that it happens in the first place is what's annoying.



Why can't there be both? I don't think adding some individuality to this game has anything to do with mechanics of the game.



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Thank You MC and why not have both, we had it in the past, as recent as last year

Again JT... look at my video again while we're still on perimeter post talk because im speaking of both
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Just look at kobe, KG, Dirk Sheed and tell me why all of a sudden this has been replaced by the T-Rex?

[rawdog805]

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I agree with the majority here.. The post game is not good at all in live.. They removed a lot of signature stuff from a lot of the players and in turn the post game is suffering as most of the signature stuff occurred in the post..

But that said I think this is the best Basketball game released in quite sometime..

[SageInfinite]

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Damn dre I 4got how good you made Live 09 look!

[bls]

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Isn't the drop step RT then left or right on the right stick?

Yup, you just can't do it everytime like last year, depends on what side your defender is shading you on and when you press left or right on the right stick.

[bls]

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Also I don't really think it's matter of different post moves as much as it is the animations themselves.

I just think the animations need to be more clean and fluid and like 23 said not taking away some of the things they had working for them already.

Those shots 23 did in that video were fadeaways, when you speak only of the post game it's also very limited in the real NBA as well. Just speaking of moves I really can't name many bigs that have post moves outside of Timmy that's really sig style.

Everybody keeps mentioning D.Howard, well go back and take a look at the NBA Finals again and you'll get your answer. Post game is no where to be found, he uses his finesse, power and vertical to get his points.

Bynum, Nene, J Oneal, Shaq, etc, they all throw up hook shots, I just think they could probably be animated differently to give a more sig style from each player but the moves themselves are pretty much the same for all bigs.

The only old school player I know of to have a very unique post game was Hakeem Olajawon. But I just think they need to animating them differently along with adding finesse bigs a la Amare and Power bigs a la Shaq.

[dat swag]

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What are you fellas thoughts on NBA Lives post moves and maneuvers?

Vanilla
Robotic
Slow
Repetitive
Boring
Lacking Variety
Unpredictable
The same for every Post player

[inkpimp007]

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This is supposed the be the NBA yet the post game is yanked from the college game, that should say it all about post moves. Stop half stepping and give us real NBA post moves.

[The 24th Letter]

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I agree on the lack of individuality.....I actually feel like that about many more aspects of the game, but thats another thread....Its just funny to me that theyd take alot of the post moves out from last year...i would love to hear the reasoning on that..

[Da_Czar]

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you dont really have that many options in the post game in real life anyways do ya? what more do people want? not sure how much more EA could add w/o making it too complicated.

ND there is a good deal they can add. Having everyone shoot the same turnaround jump shot is soooo 2004/5.

To answer the OP the post game is terrible. It wouldn't as bad if you could at least turn either way once you get the ball. But even if you drop stop to one side you can only shoot it going one way. That in combination with the limited animations and lack of overall control make it terrible.


Borderline gamekiller for some if your main scorer is a post up guy. Its sooo dry and drab can you imagine scoring 20 points a game with a power post player for 82 games and the playoffs with everyone having the same turn J and only being able to turn in one direction ?

Mind numbingly simple and stale. Those are my honest opinions.

[Da_Czar]

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This is supposed the be the NBA yet the post game is yanked from the college game, that should say it all about post moves. Stop half stepping and give us real NBA post moves.

As much as I dislike the mode I don't think its about half stepping at all but rather priorities. IF you can't fix everything in one year something has to get left out. IF this is left out next year it would be a grave mistake but I am CERTAIN its being worked on so now lets just hope the write a great post game solution.

[23]

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bls, yeah they're fadeaways but they are post shot fadeaways and they were IN the game and now ARENT.

As you can see Kobe could go on either shoulder to shoot it too, and same with the others really. No so much now and the one thats the default shot is stiff and weird. T Rex short armed shot.

I am by no means slamming this game because I Like it, its fun, the best of the series, and they did a tremendous job on seperating the 10 game from the 09 game. Its just fun to play, shoot ive made a test mix video already and plan on making one because it is fun to play.

That said I hope it gets the attention it deserves because it can open this game up even more.

[jtdribbles25]

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This is supposed the be the NBA yet the post game is yanked from the college game, that should say it all about post moves. Stop half stepping and give us real NBA post moves.

funny thing is, last year the college game got a lotta credit for it's post game. So bringing it over was a step in the right direction. Now it's not good enough, but so be it. I think theres a big difference in "the post game" versus those signature "spot' shots that were in the game last year. I was sooo tired of the guys going to the secret spot to pull out that same move over and over as well. So I guess to each his own.

[Moshood]

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The Post Game needs Signature Animations First and Formost. That will make it 100% Better than the Post Game in Live 10.