A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #166
    Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

    This thread was gold and has alot of great posts in it

    EA need not forget

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    • sportzbro
      MVP
      • May 2008
      • 3892

      #167
      Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

      Originally posted by 23
      This thread was gold and has alot of great posts in it

      EA need not forget
      I was just going to say that the OP's post perfectly encapsulates EA's joke of a product as whole... It's like a huge circlejerk of buzzwords and "plans"/"phases"/"implementation". I'm sick of it and pretty much ready to not to buy any EA game this year (maybe FIFA 13). What happened to fun/deep sports games?

      Their gimmick is essentially - "Hey, last year's game was really bad and we're sorry... Buuuuuut guess what?! We swear it's fixed it and this year is only phase one of 4 we plan on doing to get it right."

      Then the game comes out the next year and it's of course terrible. They explain, "Oh yea, forget everything we said last year (even though you bought our game). We're doing something completely new! - but have some patience (it would be so rude and uncalled for of you to question us, especially in a public forum).. Oh, and don't ask for any specifics because we wont answer it (because we didn't/aren't/wont do it anyway).

      Next it's - "We've scraped that old, stupid plan that we had the upmost confidence in 9 months ago and have a new, better, DNA-Showdown-Magical-Moments-Audio-Awesomeness that's half done and it's our new goal! Phase one is this year. We might get to all the other stuff you guys have wanted for a decade, but we're really focused on this until you buy it and there's just not enough time to get in those *insert cleats/chain-gang/shoes/proper blocking/deeper franchise* - then, guess what? We're gonna change it again."

      Please EA - take a look at your current market place numbers. There's a reason for your decline.

      Wow... /rant
      Last edited by sportzbro; 06-21-2012, 07:11 PM.

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      • noshun
        MVP
        • Sep 2006
        • 1150

        #168
        Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

        Originally posted by 23
        EA need not forget
        23, they already forgot, that's why they doing it again..
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        • WTF
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 20274

          #169
          Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

          Thanks for bumping this. I just re-read the entire thread, very lengthy read. But definitely brought up a LOT of valid point from everyone who chimed in.

          What I did not like at all, were some people chiming in saying "Wait until you try it, you'll change your mind", or at least that type of mindset, when they had to have known it was a complete mess of a product.

          From what we know thus far from Live 13, it still "needs its own time". From that, I take away that it's not good enough compete when there are other games around it. When it has it's own time and can be demonstrated by someone familiar with the game, maybe they can make it look decent.
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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #170
            Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

            All im saying is, since its ANOTHER 3 year project, this thread rings as relevant as the day you wrote it

            Incredible

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            • DaveDQ
              13
              • Sep 2003
              • 7664

              #171
              Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

              I just think they need to stop talking about this game and let it do its thing. They really muddied this game up this generation. It's really a classic example of over-promising and under-performing. They have to make that vice/versa.

              When I hear 3 year plan, I hear, "It's not quite there yet." Meaning, it will be in 3 years, which really gives the impression that the game is lacking (once again). EA really botched this title, and the success of NBA 2K really sheds light on that. Without the success of NBA 2K, Live would still be Live and not Live again.

              That's not to bring up a 2K war, but this one is obvious. 2K actually had the same issues with their baseball title. MLB 2K kept underwhelming while across the street, The Show was helping expose that.
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              • wheelman990
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 2233

                #172
                Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                Reading the original post reminded me so much of Madden games. I am usually not in the Live forum but it is incredible how much both Live and Madden follow each other with their words and "plans".

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                • spankdatazz22
                  All Star
                  • May 2003
                  • 6219

                  #173
                  Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                  Originally posted by wheelman990
                  Reading the original post reminded me so much of Madden games. I am usually not in the Live forum but it is incredible how much both Live and Madden follow each other with their words and "plans".
                  Because it works. Look at the reaction to Madden: low expectations, the "new" team does something unexpected for them in introducing a limited form of physics, and people go crazy. When it really can't be said it's beyond anything in Backbreaker or APF. You have guys creating multiple threads daily saying "this is their first year/give them time/wait until 2014 for things to be better fleshed out/etc." When it would seem they didn't up and replace the previous team as a whole, they simply added on to it. And yet the view is pushed that this is Year One, when in fact it's Year Six or Seven - they've just continued to build on what's come before it.

                  People want to believe. It's abused wife syndrome. They've been mistreated so long, any positive is given more weight than it should be. Look at how many people began swooning on the news EA was working on signature animations in Live, after the disappointing showing at E3. Shouldn't sig animations be a baseline expectation? It's not all that different from Madden with people flipping out over having better tackling - it should be expected. It warrants merit/praise when they go above and beyond what's been done before. It shouldn't be merit/praise just for managing to get where other games were long ago. But that's the nature of these forums. It's just unfortunate that some games are held to ridiculously low standards, while others are held to ridiculously high standards.
                  Last edited by spankdatazz22; 06-22-2012, 07:17 PM.
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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #174
                    Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                    Difference here Spank is E Lite got bashed and cancelled while Madden is the only football game out there

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                    • Caveman24
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                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1352

                      #175
                      Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                      good article
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                      • 22cedric
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 501

                        #176
                        Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                        Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                        Great post!

                        I only want consistency from the SAME dev team. If we can get that for a 3-year plan and have them follow the same "vision" - then Elite will be a great title. You all will be satisfied, for the most part, with year 1. I know I will be.
                        That's what I think they will do with the NBA Live franchise.

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                        • ClevelandinDistress
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 547

                          #177
                          Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                          This thread is now relevant! !! Yet again NBA Live has a three year plan.
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                          • LingeringRegime
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                            • Jun 2007
                            • 17089

                            #178
                            Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                            Amazing. Everything comes full circle.

                            What an indictment.
                            Last edited by LingeringRegime; 10-19-2013, 12:53 PM.

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                            • WTF
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 20274

                              #179
                              Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                              Woooohooo. My thread has been bumped. Still stands true.
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                              • 24
                                Forever A Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2809

                                #180
                                Re: A 3 Year Plan (LONG read)

                                Originally posted by WTF
                                Woooohooo. My thread has been bumped. Still stands true.
                                Really amazing. Went back and read a few of the pages how much it has come full circle.


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