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  • QuickSilverK
    Pro
    • Nov 2002
    • 604

    #106
    Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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    samjjones said:
    I just got the game last night, and was able to play two games. Per this board, only settings I changed were to change game speed to 45, and moved fatigue up to 75. Played on "Starter" difficulty level. This game is great. I had absolutely NO problems making open shots when they were present. In my first game, I played as the Nets vs. the Raptors. I shot 46% from the floor, and the CPU shot 48%. With 8 minute quarters, the score was 78-72. The game was extremely realistic. The CPU Raptors went to Vince down the stretch, and he kept the game tight all the way. The CPU doubled Jason Kidd midway in the 4th as it saw I was creating shots for him. Mourning was able to post efficiently down low, and when doubled, could kick it out to Kittles in the corner for the open 3 (of which he made a couple). Richard Jefferson was erratic from outside, and Kenyon Martin couldn't hit anything outside 10 feet. I didn't ABUSE the pro-hop...in fact, I often had difficulty finding a clear path to the basket to even implement it. I was able to use a couple of times with Kidd, who would do sweet looking layups, or with Jefferson, who would bring it strong. In the second game I played, I was the Rockets vs. the CPU Sonics. Again, very realistic results. I won 74-70, with Yao (who simply abused Radmanovic) finishing with 16 points and 12 boards. Francis scored 25. I could not stop Rashard Lewis, who had 28 with a number of breakaway dunks. Again, I think you are only going to get out of this game what you put into it. If you are looking for a REALISTIC simulation of NBA basketball, this game will provide it. If you have the desire to use the pro-hop to drive to the hole every single time, even though you will not be successful all of the time (at least not on the difficulty level that I played), you can make this game into a dunk fest. But having not bought a basketball game since NBA 2002 (ouch!), I think this game is awesome.

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    i swear you guys are on crack, or work for 989 or VC because this game is very good. i can't over abuse the pro-hop, i'm making my j's, i hold my own when crunch time comes, "samj." is right. this game is not that bad. no basketball game is perfect. if you can abuse (yeah, right) the pro-hop, go to superstar. if you can't hit your jumper, learn when, how, and who's shooting the ball. just because Rasheed Wallace hit 3's now and then doesn't mean he's a 3point threat.

    one thing i did to make jumpers is change my shot control to user, this way timing is more of a factor. the double team issue, well, is not an issue to me. i've noticed the cpu will d-team when it's necssary. if a post player has poor ball control, or is killing them down low, they'll react.

    everyone has they're oppion, but this is ridiculous...

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    ROFL

    what does working for vc have to do with ANYTHING?

    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Obviously you haven't seen VC slam EA almost every chance they get. They have talked ish (they backed it up with ESPN FB imo) alot. Did you see the Madden cartoon where they made fun of madden? Thats why he said that prolly.

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    • GSW
      Simnation
      • Feb 2003
      • 8041

      #107
      Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

      vc didint make that cartoon some guy n another forum did.

      i personally like live, and guys at work do too. so idunno what you or that guy is talking about. nobody except "puppets" basj games, i for one play whatever is fun for me, becaus ei work where iw ork doesnt automatically make me like our games over another, im a fan of sports videogames.
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      • GSW
        Simnation
        • Feb 2003
        • 8041

        #108
        Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

        vc didint make that cartoon some guy n another forum did.

        i personally like live, and guys at work do too. so idunno what you or that guy is talking about. nobody except "puppets" basj games, i for one play whatever is fun for me, becaus ei work where iw ork doesnt automatically make me like our games over another, im a fan of sports videogames.
        #Simnation

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        • GSW
          Simnation
          • Feb 2003
          • 8041

          #109
          Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

          vc didint make that cartoon some guy n another forum did.

          i personally like live, and guys at work do too. so idunno what you or that guy is talking about. nobody except "puppets" basj games, i for one play whatever is fun for me, becaus ei work where iw ork doesnt automatically make me like our games over another, im a fan of sports videogames.
          #Simnation

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          • BigTigLSU
            H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
            • Sep 2002
            • 6506

            #110
            Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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            GoldenstWarrior said:
            vc didint make that cartoon some guy n another forum did.

            i personally like live, and guys at work do too. so idunno what you or that guy is talking about. nobody except "puppets" basj games, i for one play whatever is fun for me, becaus ei work where iw ork doesnt automatically make me like our games over another, im a fan of sports videogames.

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            Well said
            RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
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            • BigTigLSU
              H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
              • Sep 2002
              • 6506

              #111
              Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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              GoldenstWarrior said:
              vc didint make that cartoon some guy n another forum did.

              i personally like live, and guys at work do too. so idunno what you or that guy is talking about. nobody except "puppets" basj games, i for one play whatever is fun for me, becaus ei work where iw ork doesnt automatically make me like our games over another, im a fan of sports videogames.

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              Well said
              RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
              www.grownmansports.com
              Facebook.com/grownmansports

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              • BigTigLSU
                H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                • Sep 2002
                • 6506

                #112
                Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                GoldenstWarrior said:
                vc didint make that cartoon some guy n another forum did.

                i personally like live, and guys at work do too. so idunno what you or that guy is talking about. nobody except "puppets" basj games, i for one play whatever is fun for me, becaus ei work where iw ork doesnt automatically make me like our games over another, im a fan of sports videogames.

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                Well said
                RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                www.grownmansports.com
                Facebook.com/grownmansports

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                • Nkredible
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 224

                  #113
                  Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                  PrimeTime21 said:
                  [i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

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                  Maybe you guys just cant shoot

                  I have played both online and offline and hits Mid Range-Long Range shots with NO PROBLEM
                  Perfect Example I played online againist a friend to prove this point, I shoot nothing but jump shots and Mid-Range etc...

                  I used the Bulls and he was the Celtics, Jamal Crawford scored 33pts ALL ON JUMP SHOTS not one lay up. Crawford finished 12-25(3 3pters) by the way most of these were mid-range

                  Impossible to hit a jump shot, give me a break

                  Go to practice mode or something

                  Or better yet get the game you guys really want to get but dont say shooting etc.. is impossible because of your short comings

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                  u said you're playing on starter...we're talkin about allstar and superstar...starter as easy as f#ck...sure u can hit jumpers on that..but the game is completely unbalanced on starter defaults...pro hop is already cheap..on starter its REALLY cheap....

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                  • Nkredible
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 224

                    #114
                    Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                    ps2king said:
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                    PrimeTime21 said:
                    [i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

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                    Maybe you guys just cant shoot

                    I have played both online and offline and hits Mid Range-Long Range shots with NO PROBLEM
                    Perfect Example I played online againist a friend to prove this point, I shoot nothing but jump shots and Mid-Range etc...

                    I used the Bulls and he was the Celtics, Jamal Crawford scored 33pts ALL ON JUMP SHOTS not one lay up. Crawford finished 12-25(3 3pters) by the way most of these were mid-range

                    Impossible to hit a jump shot, give me a break

                    Go to practice mode or something

                    Or better yet get the game you guys really want to get but dont say shooting etc.. is impossible because of your short comings

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                    u said you're playing on starter...we're talkin about allstar and superstar...starter as easy as f#ck...sure u can hit jumpers on that..but the game is completely unbalanced on starter defaults...pro hop is already cheap..on starter its REALLY cheap....

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                    • Nkredible
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 224

                      #115
                      Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                      ps2king said:
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                      PrimeTime21 said:
                      [i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Maybe you guys just cant shoot

                      I have played both online and offline and hits Mid Range-Long Range shots with NO PROBLEM
                      Perfect Example I played online againist a friend to prove this point, I shoot nothing but jump shots and Mid-Range etc...

                      I used the Bulls and he was the Celtics, Jamal Crawford scored 33pts ALL ON JUMP SHOTS not one lay up. Crawford finished 12-25(3 3pters) by the way most of these were mid-range

                      Impossible to hit a jump shot, give me a break

                      Go to practice mode or something

                      Or better yet get the game you guys really want to get but dont say shooting etc.. is impossible because of your short comings

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                      u said you're playing on starter...we're talkin about allstar and superstar...starter as easy as f#ck...sure u can hit jumpers on that..but the game is completely unbalanced on starter defaults...pro hop is already cheap..on starter its REALLY cheap....

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                      • Nkredible
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 224

                        #116
                        Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                        chelios7 said:

                        "I use the pro-hop almost every time down court. Its way too effective."


                        And this doesn't tell you something? DOn't use it every time. You're not forced to use it to score in this game. I barely ever use and I score just fine.

                        Just because it exists, doesn't mean you have to exploit it over and over again.

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                        that is the dumbest thing i ever heard....first of all...not using something thats there to use is like "playing house"..."pretending" its the basketball game i would LIKE to play...im trying to play a realistic basketball game that where i can use EVERYTHING in order to compliment the situation....im not gonna force myself to not use the pro hop if i KNOW i can abuse the D..i shouldn't have to do that...everything should have a weakness and plus in order for me to enjoy the game..there should be different answers for every situation...pro hop is the answer to EVERY situation..and the game's offense..wether u want to believe it or not...is so based on pro-hop...its ridicolous that i have to play "house" with the game instead of enjoy the game by playing something challenging

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                        • Nkredible
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 224

                          #117
                          Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                          chelios7 said:

                          "I use the pro-hop almost every time down court. Its way too effective."


                          And this doesn't tell you something? DOn't use it every time. You're not forced to use it to score in this game. I barely ever use and I score just fine.

                          Just because it exists, doesn't mean you have to exploit it over and over again.

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                          that is the dumbest thing i ever heard....first of all...not using something thats there to use is like "playing house"..."pretending" its the basketball game i would LIKE to play...im trying to play a realistic basketball game that where i can use EVERYTHING in order to compliment the situation....im not gonna force myself to not use the pro hop if i KNOW i can abuse the D..i shouldn't have to do that...everything should have a weakness and plus in order for me to enjoy the game..there should be different answers for every situation...pro hop is the answer to EVERY situation..and the game's offense..wether u want to believe it or not...is so based on pro-hop...its ridicolous that i have to play "house" with the game instead of enjoy the game by playing something challenging

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                          • Nkredible
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 224

                            #118
                            Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                            chelios7 said:

                            "I use the pro-hop almost every time down court. Its way too effective."


                            And this doesn't tell you something? DOn't use it every time. You're not forced to use it to score in this game. I barely ever use and I score just fine.

                            Just because it exists, doesn't mean you have to exploit it over and over again.

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                            that is the dumbest thing i ever heard....first of all...not using something thats there to use is like "playing house"..."pretending" its the basketball game i would LIKE to play...im trying to play a realistic basketball game that where i can use EVERYTHING in order to compliment the situation....im not gonna force myself to not use the pro hop if i KNOW i can abuse the D..i shouldn't have to do that...everything should have a weakness and plus in order for me to enjoy the game..there should be different answers for every situation...pro hop is the answer to EVERY situation..and the game's offense..wether u want to believe it or not...is so based on pro-hop...its ridicolous that i have to play "house" with the game instead of enjoy the game by playing something challenging

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                            • Nkredible
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 224

                              #119
                              Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                              im sorry but yall are just in denial...u know darn well the pro hop is too effective...get this...i played my lil brother yesterday...mavs against the lakers....i mentioned how cheap the pro hop was....he started using it a minute into the game..he scored 56 points with kobe Bryant out of the lakers 60 points... using the pro hop ALONE...i tried for the charge...most of the time it didnt work because the charge button animation forcefield is very small....i put hands in his face..he still hits......i go for the block..he goes to the line and even makes the shot more than half the time.....THIS IS ON ALLSTAR....do NOT tell me pro hop is not cheap when kobe bryant can do the same thing over and over down court..nuttin but pro hop..and score almost all of the lakers points...no way. I played basketball all my life...been playing organized ball EVERY year since i was 10 years old...i KNOW basketball..and i know what the pro hop is and i know how its used and how its effective....in this game...it creates space..sure..but you push your defender backwards NO MATTER THE SITUATION..it always works....i dont care if u get fouls or contact...u score most of the time or you go to the line...especially with players like tracy mcgrady and kobe..there should be SOME type of animation where a stronger defender is able to make the offensive player "bump backwards" when he tries to push in the paint with the prohop...but there isnt...i can pro hop through shaq with steve nash...come on man....yall are seriously in denial....be real with yourselves..every review mentions how powerful it is...yet somehow u guys on the site have a game where its not cheap at all...i amn not a live basher..i wanted this game to be very nice...thats why i spent 50 dollars on it...dont get me wrong..the game is nice in alot of aspects..and alot of the new stuff has major potential..but alot of it creates new bugs and new problems that we have to wait to be fixed next year yet AGAIN...they always sacrifice something when they fix something or add something new...this happens every year in nba live...it never fails...the pro hop RUINS the game im sorry....

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                              • Nkredible
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 224

                                #120
                                Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                                im sorry but yall are just in denial...u know darn well the pro hop is too effective...get this...i played my lil brother yesterday...mavs against the lakers....i mentioned how cheap the pro hop was....he started using it a minute into the game..he scored 56 points with kobe Bryant out of the lakers 60 points... using the pro hop ALONE...i tried for the charge...most of the time it didnt work because the charge button animation forcefield is very small....i put hands in his face..he still hits......i go for the block..he goes to the line and even makes the shot more than half the time.....THIS IS ON ALLSTAR....do NOT tell me pro hop is not cheap when kobe bryant can do the same thing over and over down court..nuttin but pro hop..and score almost all of the lakers points...no way. I played basketball all my life...been playing organized ball EVERY year since i was 10 years old...i KNOW basketball..and i know what the pro hop is and i know how its used and how its effective....in this game...it creates space..sure..but you push your defender backwards NO MATTER THE SITUATION..it always works....i dont care if u get fouls or contact...u score most of the time or you go to the line...especially with players like tracy mcgrady and kobe..there should be SOME type of animation where a stronger defender is able to make the offensive player "bump backwards" when he tries to push in the paint with the prohop...but there isnt...i can pro hop through shaq with steve nash...come on man....yall are seriously in denial....be real with yourselves..every review mentions how powerful it is...yet somehow u guys on the site have a game where its not cheap at all...i amn not a live basher..i wanted this game to be very nice...thats why i spent 50 dollars on it...dont get me wrong..the game is nice in alot of aspects..and alot of the new stuff has major potential..but alot of it creates new bugs and new problems that we have to wait to be fixed next year yet AGAIN...they always sacrifice something when they fix something or add something new...this happens every year in nba live...it never fails...the pro hop RUINS the game im sorry....

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