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  • Virix
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1007

    #46
    Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

    As a person who enjoys both games, Id have to say its a wash. Freestyle has zero risk vs. reward like Isomotion, which sucks. I love how in isomotion people dont just bring the ball down the court constantly crossing over because theres too much risk involved. On the other hand, Live is more responsive to my controls. The AI in Live (even on superstar) will fall for a fake eventually if you just wiggle the stick back and forth, which will lead to a wide open jumper (at least). The AI in ESPN attacks people using isomotion, which makes it very risky to over use the moves.

    I think some of the moves in ESPN are over the top, but a quick adjustment to the ball handling rating slider fixes that. I really dont think one is better than the other, if you are actually willing to learn to use Isomotion which has a much higer learning curve than freestyle. So far it has seemed to me that people popped in ESPN, wiggled the stick a bit and decided freestyle is better. "OMG I cant control him" "WTF is he doing?" "God this sucks" was exactly what my friends said when they first played. But once they actually took a day or two and learned how to use isomotion, it was a different story.

    Isomotion needs work without question, but imo so does freestyle.

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    • guru
      Rookie
      • Oct 2003
      • 12

      #47
      Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

      Good question, I asked this before ESPN was release if Iso was totally user controlled or just dribble animations. Sega needs to take this back to the drawing board impliment total control to the user. Even if that means admitting EA was first to do this with freestyle.

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      • guru
        Rookie
        • Oct 2003
        • 12

        #48
        Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

        Good question, I asked this before ESPN was release if Iso was totally user controlled or just dribble animations. Sega needs to take this back to the drawing board impliment total control to the user. Even if that means admitting EA was first to do this with freestyle.

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        • guru
          Rookie
          • Oct 2003
          • 12

          #49
          Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

          Good question, I asked this before ESPN was release if Iso was totally user controlled or just dribble animations. Sega needs to take this back to the drawing board impliment total control to the user. Even if that means admitting EA was first to do this with freestyle.

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          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #50
            Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            jordan0386 said:
            great job asking that question in a non-biased community dude



            what are they supposed to say

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


            He asked who played both games . So what's your beef How is there a bias from people who spent their time/money to play both games

            You're in the ESPN directing people like Air Traffic Control to different forums, so why don't you do the same?

            I also noticed that you didn't answer the question? But you claim others are biased.

            Get off it.

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #51
              Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              jordan0386 said:
              great job asking that question in a non-biased community dude



              what are they supposed to say

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


              He asked who played both games . So what's your beef How is there a bias from people who spent their time/money to play both games

              You're in the ESPN directing people like Air Traffic Control to different forums, so why don't you do the same?

              I also noticed that you didn't answer the question? But you claim others are biased.

              Get off it.

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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #52
                Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                jordan0386 said:
                great job asking that question in a non-biased community dude



                what are they supposed to say

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                He asked who played both games . So what's your beef How is there a bias from people who spent their time/money to play both games

                You're in the ESPN directing people like Air Traffic Control to different forums, so why don't you do the same?

                I also noticed that you didn't answer the question? But you claim others are biased.

                Get off it.

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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #53
                  Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  Virix said:
                  As a person who enjoys both games, Id have to say its a wash. Freestyle has zero risk vs. reward like Isomotion, which sucks. I love how in isomotion people dont just bring the ball down the court constantly crossing over because theres too much risk involved. On the other hand, Live is more responsive to my controls. The AI in Live (even on superstar) will fall for a fake eventually if you just wiggle the stick back and forth, which will lead to a wide open jumper (at least). The AI in ESPN attacks people using isomotion, which makes it very risky to over use the moves.

                  I think some of the moves in ESPN are over the top, but a quick adjustment to the ball handling rating slider fixes that. I really dont think one is better than the other, if you are actually willing to learn to use Isomotion which has a much higer learning curve than freestyle. So far it has seemed to me that people popped in ESPN, wiggled the stick a bit and decided freestyle is better. "OMG I cant control him" "WTF is he doing?" "God this sucks" was exactly what my friends said when they first played. But once they actually took a day or two and learned how to use isomotion, it was a different story.

                  Isomotion needs work without question, but imo so does freestyle.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Great unbiased post.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #54
                    Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    Virix said:
                    As a person who enjoys both games, Id have to say its a wash. Freestyle has zero risk vs. reward like Isomotion, which sucks. I love how in isomotion people dont just bring the ball down the court constantly crossing over because theres too much risk involved. On the other hand, Live is more responsive to my controls. The AI in Live (even on superstar) will fall for a fake eventually if you just wiggle the stick back and forth, which will lead to a wide open jumper (at least). The AI in ESPN attacks people using isomotion, which makes it very risky to over use the moves.

                    I think some of the moves in ESPN are over the top, but a quick adjustment to the ball handling rating slider fixes that. I really dont think one is better than the other, if you are actually willing to learn to use Isomotion which has a much higer learning curve than freestyle. So far it has seemed to me that people popped in ESPN, wiggled the stick a bit and decided freestyle is better. "OMG I cant control him" "WTF is he doing?" "God this sucks" was exactly what my friends said when they first played. But once they actually took a day or two and learned how to use isomotion, it was a different story.

                    Isomotion needs work without question, but imo so does freestyle.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Great unbiased post.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

                    Comment

                    • jmood88
                      Sean Payton: Retribution
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 34639

                      #55
                      Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Virix said:
                      As a person who enjoys both games, Id have to say its a wash. Freestyle has zero risk vs. reward like Isomotion, which sucks. I love how in isomotion people dont just bring the ball down the court constantly crossing over because theres too much risk involved. On the other hand, Live is more responsive to my controls. The AI in Live (even on superstar) will fall for a fake eventually if you just wiggle the stick back and forth, which will lead to a wide open jumper (at least). The AI in ESPN attacks people using isomotion, which makes it very risky to over use the moves.

                      I think some of the moves in ESPN are over the top, but a quick adjustment to the ball handling rating slider fixes that. I really dont think one is better than the other, if you are actually willing to learn to use Isomotion which has a much higer learning curve than freestyle. So far it has seemed to me that people popped in ESPN, wiggled the stick a bit and decided freestyle is better. "OMG I cant control him" "WTF is he doing?" "God this sucks" was exactly what my friends said when they first played. But once they actually took a day or two and learned how to use isomotion, it was a different story.

                      Isomotion needs work without question, but imo so does freestyle.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Great unbiased post.
                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                      • SoMiss2000
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 20499

                        #56
                        Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                        I don't think people like worrying with starting a move then having to cancel it. How real is that?
                        "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                        Check out www.sliderset.net



                        Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                        • SoMiss2000
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 20499

                          #57
                          Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                          I don't think people like worrying with starting a move then having to cancel it. How real is that?
                          "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                          Check out www.sliderset.net



                          Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

                          Comment

                          • SoMiss2000
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 20499

                            #58
                            Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                            I don't think people like worrying with starting a move then having to cancel it. How real is that?
                            "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                            Check out www.sliderset.net



                            Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

                            Comment

                            • Whaaaazuuuuup
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3620

                              #59
                              Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              Virix said:
                              As a person who enjoys both games, Id have to say its a wash. Freestyle has zero risk vs. reward like Isomotion, which sucks. I love how in isomotion people dont just bring the ball down the court constantly crossing over because theres too much risk involved. On the other hand, Live is more responsive to my controls. The AI in Live (even on superstar) will fall for a fake eventually if you just wiggle the stick back and forth, which will lead to a wide open jumper (at least). The AI in ESPN attacks people using isomotion, which makes it very risky to over use the moves.

                              I think some of the moves in ESPN are over the top, but a quick adjustment to the ball handling rating slider fixes that. I really dont think one is better than the other, if you are actually willing to learn to use Isomotion which has a much higer learning curve than freestyle. So far it has seemed to me that people popped in ESPN, wiggled the stick a bit and decided freestyle is better. "OMG I cant control him" "WTF is he doing?" "God this sucks" was exactly what my friends said when they first played. But once they actually took a day or two and learned how to use isomotion, it was a different story.

                              Isomotion needs work without question, but imo so does freestyle.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              man i beg to differ. with the tough defense in LIVE, i've yet to shake a defender like i did in 2003. i triyed ESPN for the weekend, and the iso-motion is like "russian rolet" i can't seem to do a simply cross-over in this game. it alway's gives me a combination of moves, which aren't necessary. if you learned to do iso-motion to were is benefical the game to the game...

                              OH! i pick, FREESTYLE!...

                              I am glad I got the Buell- I love riding it, I love the oddball looks I get on the road- I love people asking "What IS that thing?" I love flying into a corner WAY too hot, scared spitless and sure I'll never hold it at this speed- and hearing the bike whisper "Sissy!"...

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                              • Whaaaazuuuuup
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3620

                                #60
                                Re: Freestyle vs. Isomotion

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                Virix said:
                                As a person who enjoys both games, Id have to say its a wash. Freestyle has zero risk vs. reward like Isomotion, which sucks. I love how in isomotion people dont just bring the ball down the court constantly crossing over because theres too much risk involved. On the other hand, Live is more responsive to my controls. The AI in Live (even on superstar) will fall for a fake eventually if you just wiggle the stick back and forth, which will lead to a wide open jumper (at least). The AI in ESPN attacks people using isomotion, which makes it very risky to over use the moves.

                                I think some of the moves in ESPN are over the top, but a quick adjustment to the ball handling rating slider fixes that. I really dont think one is better than the other, if you are actually willing to learn to use Isomotion which has a much higer learning curve than freestyle. So far it has seemed to me that people popped in ESPN, wiggled the stick a bit and decided freestyle is better. "OMG I cant control him" "WTF is he doing?" "God this sucks" was exactly what my friends said when they first played. But once they actually took a day or two and learned how to use isomotion, it was a different story.

                                Isomotion needs work without question, but imo so does freestyle.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                man i beg to differ. with the tough defense in LIVE, i've yet to shake a defender like i did in 2003. i triyed ESPN for the weekend, and the iso-motion is like "russian rolet" i can't seem to do a simply cross-over in this game. it alway's gives me a combination of moves, which aren't necessary. if you learned to do iso-motion to were is benefical the game to the game...

                                OH! i pick, FREESTYLE!...

                                I am glad I got the Buell- I love riding it, I love the oddball looks I get on the road- I love people asking "What IS that thing?" I love flying into a corner WAY too hot, scared spitless and sure I'll never hold it at this speed- and hearing the bike whisper "Sissy!"...

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