***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

[OSUPiper]

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Piper's CH2k8 sliders V1.1 PS2

[B]Piper's CH2k8 sliders V1.1[/B]
 
GAMEPLAY
Mode:          Simulation
Level:         All-Conference
Speed:         Fast
Half Length:   20 minutes
Sim Half Ln:   20 minutes
Real FT%:      Off
Clutch:        On
 
RULES
All Settings:     On
All Other Fouls:  MAX
1-and-1           4 fouls
Double Bonus      7 fouls
Foul Out          4 fouls
 
PRESENTATION:
Cut Scenes:    On
 
GAME SLIDERS
Shooting (100 max)
Inside           50
Mid Range        45
3pt              52
Dunk Success     50
Layup Success    37
FT Success        0
 
Tendencies (100 max)
Close             0
Mid              52
3pt              51
Drive            76
 
Attributes (100 max)
O Awareness      30
D Awareness      50
Dunk             25
Ball Handling    90
O Rebounding     95
D Rebounding     50
Block            70
Steal            10
Speed            40
 
Gameplay (100 max)
Screen Success   75
Screen Strength  65
Steal Success     0
Dunk in Traffic   3
Help Defense     65
Help Recovery    53
 
Fitness (100 max)
Fatigue Rate     59
Recovery Rate    56
Injury Freq      46
Injury Effect    54

For what it is worth, these are my current 2k8 sliders for PS2. I have not changed these sliders for half a season, roughly 12-15 games. I freaking love them.

Right now I am determining the need to edit incoming recruits.

[PhantomPain]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

I really do believe I have the 360 version figured out. if you can test them that would be great. I am posting down below.

Two other question for you, cad4life:

1) Who are you running with on these sliders?

2) How often are you calling plays on offense? Percentage is fine if you can guesstimate?

[PhantomPain]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

GamePlay

Play mode simulation
Difficulty MOP
Half Length 20 Minutes
Simulated Half 20 Minutes
Player Lock Off
Real Player FT ON

All other settings turned ON.

Rules:
All Rules on
All Fouls maxed out

Game Sliders

Shooting 43
Mid Range 50
3 Point success 47
Dunk Success 50
Layup Success 50
Close Shot tend 0
midrange shot ten 0
3pt shot tendance 0
Drive tendancy 0

Attributes
Offensive Awareness 100
Defensive Awareness 100
Dunk 50
Ball Handling 100
Offensive Rebound 100
Defensive Rebound 100
Block 50
Steal 50
Speed 50

Gameplay
Team Unity Effects 100
Dunks in Traffic 0
Screen Success 50
Screen Strength 50
Steal Success 50
Help Defense 500
Help Recovery 50

Fitness 50
Energy Recovery rate 50
Injury Frequency 50
Injury Effects 50

If I left something out or you have a question feel free. but I do love these sliders.

Ok another question or two...sorry. Are these for both CPU and HUMAN or just HUMAN? What about Game Speed and Player Speed? Default?

[OSUPiper]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

If it helps, we almost always set sliders the same for Human and CPU.

[PhantomPain]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

If it helps, we almost always set sliders the same for Human and CPU.

Thanks OSUPiper!

[cad4life]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

Two other question for you, cad4life:

1) Who are you running with on these sliders?

2) How often are you calling plays on offense? Percentage is fine if you can guesstimate?

I am playing with Texas State
I never really call plays. I let the computer run the plays. offensive play call is set to manual.
Yes all sliders the same for human and CPU.
Also all settings not listed is at default. game speed player speed wasn't changed.

[DougSupreme]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

here's a question. how the heck do you get your players to take open shots at the end of games? I was down 6 with under a minute to play, ball was in the hands of my best 3 shooter, wide open and he passes the ball around. I had my offensive tempo cranked up to 100, and I still couldn't get anyone to take a shot

[PhantomPain]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

here's a question. how the heck do you get your players to take open shots at the end of games? I was down 6 with under a minute to play, ball was in the hands of my best 3 shooter, wide open and he passes the ball around. I had my offensive tempo cranked up to 100, and I still couldn't get anyone to take a shot

I would love the answer to this question as well as ohw to make the team not shoot until the shot clock winds down. I have had the temp set to 0 at the end of the game to try and milk the clock and they will still shoot the ball within 10 seconds if they have an open look. Great if it goes in, but I would rather just milk the clock.

OSUPiper? Anyone?

[PhantomPain]

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I am playing with Texas State
I never really call plays. I let the computer run the plays. offensive play call is set to manual.
Yes all sliders the same for human and CPU.
Also all settings not listed is at default. game speed player speed wasn't changed.

Thanks cad4life, I am going to try and get a game or two in tonight but not sure if I can. I did play two games last night but one of the games I just played with the human sliders this way and the CPU at default. What was interesting is that I got to the foul line 26 times. The second game I played with CPU and HUMAN set to your sliders and I think I got to the foul line about 15 times where as the CPU only got to it about 11 times (about the same for the CPU as the first game). But I have been sick (which is why I am not sure if I will able to get any games in tonight especially if Nyquil takes over) so I didn't bother writing the stats down. Overall I definitely liked the way the game moved and once I get a few more games under I will give you further impressions.

BTW, I think in that 2nd game (UK-me vs Souther Charleston-CPU) we both had around 50-60 shot attempts. I shot like 57% and the CPU shot 38%. I know that is high for me, but the game before where I only had the HUMAN sliders set, I shot 41% against the same team. Everything else really seemed spot on, but again I will let you know once I have more games.

[OSUPiper]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

BTW, I think in that 2nd game (UK-me vs Souther Charleston-CPU) we both had around 50-60 shot attempts. I shot like 57% and the CPU shot 38%. I know that is high for me, but the game before where I only had the HUMAN sliders set, I shot 41% against the same team. Everything else really seemed spot on, but again I will let you know once I have more games.

There are so many variables and momentum swings, each game is going to be different, often very different. Play the same game between the same teams ten times and somewhere in there you will get a feel for they way that game would normally go.

This differs a little from real life b/c (IMHO) the way two teams play on a given date is a product of not only the matchups, but of where they are in the season, how they are doing, how much the game means, etc. Having said that, most of my games end in ways that do not surprise me. Getting to that end is usually pretty damn fun, though.

Just take half a season or so and see how the stats look.

[OSUPiper]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

here's a question. how the heck do you get your players to take open shots at the end of games? I was down 6 with under a minute to play, ball was in the hands of my best 3 shooter, wide open and he passes the ball around. I had my offensive tempo cranked up to 100, and I still couldn't get anyone to take a shot

A lot of this depends on confidence and shooting tendencies. I have guys on my team that should not take shots in certain situations, but they do anyway. Let them ride the pine and their confidence suffers and maybe they don't develop. Keep them in there and maybe they lose a game for you.

I have seen enough games to question the sense of urgency a team plays with when behind, but for the most part, I think the AI is pretty good regarding that. I have no problem with clock management from the team with the lead in my games. Against me, teams often slow the game down with under 5 minutes trying to protect a lead.

[DougSupreme]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

my concern is that I was down two baskets with around 30 seconds to play and I didn't even get a shot off. I would have been happier if they ran down court and launched a brick, at least that shot has a chance of going in. Then maybe I can get a stop and launch another brick

[OSUPiper]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

my concern is that I was down two baskets with around 30 seconds to play and I didn't even get a shot off. I would have been happier if they ran down court and launched a brick, at least that shot has a chance of going in. Then maybe I can get a stop and launch another brick

dunno, that hasnt happened to me yet

[cad4life]

Re: ***OS's Official College Hoops 2k8 Coach Mode Central***

my concern is that I was down two baskets with around 30 seconds to play and I didn't even get a shot off. I would have been happier if they ran down court and launched a brick, at least that shot has a chance of going in. Then maybe I can get a stop and launch another brick

It happened to me and i would like to think that it has a lot to do with players intelligence but I have no proof to back this up. I have seen it the other way also where they show a since of urgency. maybe taking a time out may work for you

[OSUPiper]

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Right now I am determining the need to edit incoming recruits.

PS2 ONLY

I edited the Top 7 high school recruits (based on overall ranking) in my legacy to "one-and-done" status. I raised each player's OA and DA ratings by 20, and on some I very slightly adjusted tendencies based on shooting ability.

In the future, I plan to scale these a little. The Top 3 (roughly) will get a +20 Awareness boost, the next 4 will get a +15 boost, the next 10 get a +5. This will take care of about 17 players, setting them apart a little from the pack. IRL, there are around 30 5* players, and maybe 100 5* and 4* combined. Editing the top 17 or so will leave some 5* and 4* lumped close together. There is hardly a problem with player ratings on PS2 IMO.

There is a potential height issue regarding SFs and SGs. I may lower SFs by 1 inch and SGs outside the Top 40 by 1 inch. I will not edit the height of any potential lottery pick. Cs may also be too tall, but I cannot tell yet. It is certainly not the problem of CH2k6 so far. Considering the time needed to edit incoming Frosh, even limited to 2 positions, I will probably not elect to do this unless it becomes a serious problem in 5-10 seasons.

Lastly, over the next few seasons, I will monitor my ability to recruit against my conference and determine what, if any, recruiting restrictions should be made. So far, at the small school level, I see no problems.

(My opinion of legacy is that there should be no recruiting restrictions at small schools ever. This is b/c I also believe that coaches should jump to higher prestige positions when they are offered. I understand Dana Altman turning down Arkansas--I think--for Creighton, b/c it may not be a "better" job. Personal decision for him, but he is not gonna win a NC at Creighton while he could at Arkansas. He will leave Creighton for that power conference job opportunity soon, just watch.)