The College Hoops 2K8 esoteric information thread (learn and discuss the arcane)

[ShowTyme15]

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Pretty sure those guys just disappear.

Thank you sir.....much appreciated.

[cubsball899]

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I know this is probably somewhere in this thread but I couldn't find it. Does anyone have a guide for the different post moves?

the face up post game in this game is pretty dynamic... jab steps, pump fakes, and hop steps if you have an undersized athletic big you can really do some work

[VandyRedskins21]

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Hey I just found this thread today and just through all of them and I thought I'd give my two cents on the in depth things about 2K not talked about yet.

The reverse lay-up control is different from the reverse dunk. There was some confusion there so here it is:

Reverse DUNK: While holding turbo, you pull right analog stick away from the goal

Reverse Lay-up: To do a reverse lay-up while running baseline you aim the right analog stick towards the baseline and LET GO of the turbo. That is how it is on the 360 at least haha.

If you are trying to get a job at a major conference in a closed legacy but you can't you need to not only be successful and have good records, but you need to have good ratings as a good coach. The more achievements you accomplish, the higher rating the coach, the more interested the power teams.

When recruiting the interest bar can sometimes be decieving. For example, if you are just starting a career legacy it might be hard to find 3* talent that you know you can get. The easiest way to get 3* talent is by going to the world recruits and get those guys. Even if they start out in the 30s interestwise you can still, over the course of the season, get them to about the 70s by the offseason where they will end up have no choice but come to your school just because of the fact that you are the only school who offered them a scholarship. Some people might find that if you just do world recruits it takes the fun out of recruiting and essentially the legacy itself. But if you want 3* talent there are other ways. First you will want to check out all of the 3* talent in you area. The recruits in your area will naturally like you more than a recruit from the other side of the country (obviously :wink. Another thing is that sometimes those recruits that are only in the 50s when it comes to interest might only be in the 50s and 60s with every other school so you might be able to snatch a recruit that starts out not caring too much about your school. You can also find JC recruits that not many teams are after if you are desperate in finding a solid recruit. Just an example on how in-depth CHoops recruiting is, I know someone who signed a 2* recruit for his team. Apparently that 2* recruit had a twin brother that was a 5* recruit and as soon as the 2* recruit signed to his team, the brother was like in the 90s interest

Something that I would love to learn more about though is running plays and to know which plays to run in what situations. I've seen all of the in-depth talk about plays but what makes it better than just having a team that doesn't run plays? If I were to start running plays every time down the floor in my half-court, will I be more successful than if I just tried to read the defense and make a play? I'd love any advice on that and I'm definitely gonna look into the CPU playbooks for the other teams!

This is probably the best thread I have seen on here (not saying much since I joined just a couple weeks ago lol) and hope it continues!

Sorry this post is so long haha

EDIT: Another part I saw on the thread was the talk about zone defenses not being effective against the perimeter. I have found that running a 1-1-3 is better than a 2-3 just for the simple fact that it forces the PG to make a play before he would want to which leads to some discomfort on their end. Also if they have the ball in the corner you can control the player on the weak side for just a second and pull him out to the other corner just so they won't try any skip passes or quick pass arounds. When playing a zone D you always have to be aware where your opponent is or you will get burned on the 3. Another thing is if your opponent has 2 shooters at the guard positions and the other three players cannot shoot, play a triangle and 2. If you play it right you can't go wrong with it.

[CM1847]

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Recently started playing again after leaving it alone for a year or so. One house rule I've adopted is to not press unless I am down big late in the game. The passing patterns from the CPU are way too predictable on the traps, you can get way too many steals. It has been evening out my games, I still overachieve based on my team rating, but after only losing once against a loaded OOC schedule with an 80 rated St. John's team, I have gone 8-5 in the Big East.

I'm still using the original CPU playbook discussed in this thread, still does a good job of getting the best CPU players the ball. Most of the top players I go against score 18-22, rarely somebody drops 30+ on me.

[l3ulvl]

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Recently started playing again after leaving it alone for a year or so. One house rule I've adopted is to not press unless I am down big late in the game. The passing patterns from the CPU are way too predictable on the traps, you can get way too many steals. It has been evening out my games, I still overachieve based on my team rating, but after only losing once against a loaded OOC schedule with an 80 rated St. John's team, I have gone 8-5 in the Big East.

I'm still using the original CPU playbook discussed in this thread, still does a good job of getting the best CPU players the ball. Most of the top players I go against score 18-22, rarely somebody drops 30+ on me.

I do the same thing with the trap, unless I feel like I'll have no chance, I'll run it from the tip for about 5 minutes relentlessly. After that I don't let myself go back to it unless I fall way behind. Like you said, the CPU passing tendencies are too predictable. I have to limit myself defensively sometimes when I recognize the play that's being run, too. It's either that or turn certain attributes or sliders down and I'd rather not punish myself in that way.

[CM1847]

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I do the same thing with the trap, unless I feel like I'll have no chance, I'll run it from the tip for about 5 minutes relentlessly. After that I don't let myself go back to it unless I fall way behind. Like you said, the CPU passing tendencies are too predictable. I have to limit myself defensively sometimes when I recognize the play that's being run, too. It's either that or turn certain attributes or sliders down and I'd rather not punish myself in that way.

Yes, the plays they run also have some really obvious patterns that I force myself to ignore. I do keep the house rule of not switching players on defense(just use whoever last touched the ball on offense) which helps avoid the urge to jump on the obvious passes, but it is still tempting at times. I agree about not wanting to lower the attributes, a little self control seems to do the job just fine.

[cubsball899]

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what i do when i press is i control my center in the back, so that if my AI controlled players come up with a steal i feel like it is a legit turnover..

[DJ]

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What's a good alternative for the 2-3 zone? I use Syracuse and obviously, we live with zone defense but the 2-3 zone in CH 2K8 doesn't work correctly, as the guy at the top of the zone always makes that "L" cut and doesn't get to the shooters on his side of the court in time.

I was thinking perhaps a 2-1-2 zone would be a good alternative, but wasn't sure.

[grismosw]

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What's a good alternative for the 2-3 zone? I use Syracuse and obviously, we live with zone defense but the 2-3 zone in CH 2K8 doesn't work correctly, as the guy at the top of the zone always makes that "L" cut and doesn't get to the shooters on his side of the court in time.

I was thinking perhaps a 2-1-2 zone would be a good alternative, but wasn't sure.

2-1-2 is what i use instead of 2-3

[cubsball899]

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What's a good alternative for the 2-3 zone? I use Syracuse and obviously, we live with zone defense but the 2-3 zone in CH 2K8 doesn't work correctly, as the guy at the top of the zone always makes that "L" cut and doesn't get to the shooters on his side of the court in time.

I was thinking perhaps a 2-1-2 zone would be a good alternative, but wasn't sure.

2-3 works if you are good at switching between defenders.

[DJ]

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2-3 works if you are good at switching between defenders.

I typically don't switch defenders.

[l3ulvl]

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I typically don't switch defenders.

Stupid question here, but sometimes it helps to ask the simplest question first... Have you been doing 2-3 zone exclusively or also using 2-3 matchup zone? I might be thinking of the wrong scheme but would the 1-2-2 be a good alternative? I know the game gives a description of each zone, but don't remember where.

[VandyRedskins21]

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What's a good alternative for the 2-3 zone? I use Syracuse and obviously, we live with zone defense but the 2-3 zone in CH 2K8 doesn't work correctly, as the guy at the top of the zone always makes that "L" cut and doesn't get to the shooters on his side of the court in time.

I was thinking perhaps a 2-1-2 zone would be a good alternative, but wasn't sure.

Try out the 1-1-3 zone. I find it more effective personally than the 2-3 zone.

[Jukeman]

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Stupid question here, but sometimes it helps to ask the simplest question first... Have you been doing 2-3 zone exclusively or also using 2-3 matchup zone? I might be thinking of the wrong scheme but would the 1-2-2 be a good alternative? I know the game gives a description of each zone, but don't remember where.

Try out the 1-1-3 zone. I find it more effective personally than the 2-3 zone.

Yea I have Syracuse set to the 2-3, 2-1-2 and 1-1-3 Zones.

2-1-2 is the alternative to 2-3 and 1-1-3 is a alternative to the 2-3 match-up.
(I give alternatives to all the schools because I dont want a team to have 2 of the same defensive schemes; I.E, 2-3 matchup for both 1st and secondary defense)

[Jukeman]

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I know that....I'm talking about the players who have left the program. An example would be in WKU legacy I had Caden Dickerson a SG transfer to Idaho and Jamal Cook a SG leave the the school (not transfer) I was curious to know if Cook just went MIA from the game altogether or did he end up walking on at another school after the end of season recruiting is over. Basically my question is what happens to a player when he leaves the school. Not a player who transfers.

he pretty much disappeared from the game if no school was listed next to his name at the transfer screen.

lol he basically went to play D2 ball...