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  • cdubdiggity
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 1204

    #31
    Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

    Dirk's jus upset that Kobe dropped 62 on his team and he brought up Tmac cuz he got shut down by tmac in the playoffs

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      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #32
      Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

      Originally posted by Court_vision
      The context of the interview...why do people never consider the context of the interview...it was one question in the context of others...

      As stated, he hardly said anything that's not true...and it's hardly a criticism anyway. Most of us here LAMENT the fact more team ball isn't played / featured.

      Why should he go back to Europe simply for stating his opinion? If he went back and so did Manu...and so did all the other players born overseas...the league itself would be poorer. (At a time when it's never been weaker depth wise)

      Some times you guys are just way, way too sensitive. I am not European, but I follow European football and have done for 30 years. I can tell you that there's a lot of overpaid prima donas in European football...Real Madrid being the current example. Does that mean a European should say to me "well, don't watch it then if you don't like it...?" Should I not have an opinion?

      That's all Dirk has stated...an opinion. Just like he's also said 1000 GOOD things about the USA and the NBA.

      Honestly...maybe I'm from a different culture / era to most of you...but crying over this and "he can go back" is so soft it's not even funny.

      Whatever happened to taking whatever someone says on the chin, agreeing to disagree and buying them a beer...

      While Dirk is benefitting from this same thing he's whining about, he should keep his trap shut. Plain and simple.

      Its just ironic that he starts talking out of his behind after an "individual" ripped his entire team a new one. If this softy was taking it on the chin, he wouldn't be talking... yet, he wants to cry because he's been hearing about how one guy did him and his entire team in for 3 days in a row.

      I dont think David Stern needs to listen to a 7 footer with no post up game on how to market his business. Truth is, its bringing the L money, and that's the bottom line.

      Whether you or I agree with it or not, that's the reality of it, and yes, if Dirk wants to continue to hypocrite, I'll call him on it, but until then, he's not going to turn down Mark Cuban's max deal contract offer when his current contract is up soon, so he might as well shut up, or lead by example in his protest of how the NBA is marketed and play for what he considers "teams" in Europe.

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      • utexas
        Greatness
        • Jan 2003
        • 4868

        #33
        Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

        Originally posted by KDRE
        While Dirk is benefitting from this same thing he's whining about, he should keep his trap shut. Plain and simple.

        Its just ironic that he starts talking out of his behind after an "individual" ripped his entire team a new one. If this softy was taking it on the chin, he wouldn't be talking... yet, he wants to cry because he's been hearing about how one guy did him and his entire team in for 3 days in a row.

        I dont think David Stern needs to listen to a 7 footer with no post up game on how to market his business. Truth is, its bringing the L money, and that's the bottom line.

        Whether you or I agree with it or not, that's the reality of it, and yes, if Dirk wants to continue to hypocrite, I'll call him on it, but until then, he's not going to turn down Mark Cuban's max deal contract offer when his current contract is up soon, so he might as well shut up, or lead by example in his protest of how the NBA is marketed and play for what he considers "teams" in Europe.

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          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #34
          Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

          Originally posted by utexas
          your hatred for the messenger causes you to miss the entire message.

          Im sure the timing was just coincidental

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          • Vince
            Bow for Bau
            • Aug 2002
            • 26017

            #35
            Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

            Ironically, the Mavs are on Natl' TV almost every week on TNT.
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            • Playmakers
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 15418

              #36
              Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

              Originally posted by Court_vision
              He's hardly saying anything that's NOT true...

              The NBA has openly marketed 'star' players for far too long now...

              ESPN show highlight after highlight of dunks and one on one stuff...

              Dirk isn't criticising it...he's simply saying that's the way it is. Which is true.

              FootballForever...there's no need for the 'shave there (sic, it should be 'their'...) armpits joke / stereotype either.

              Exactly the only reason why some of these guy's are upset is because it's coming from Dirk and not Shaq, TD, KG or Amare.

              If one of those guy's had made the comment I'm not playing on the USA team because it's going to be all about individual play as opposed to the team play we see with other countries half these guy's wouldn't pay much attention to it.

              But because Dirk spoke up and stated the obvious about how the NBA game is actually played we have guy's who want to bash him. The sad thing is we speak of Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson all the time on these boards stating everything Dirk just said yet he's wrong for speaking about it.

              The truth is Dirk expressed his opinion about the things that most of us complain about when it comes to the NBA. There are NBA experts who bash the game for being the way it is but I don't see anyone calling them bitter or sour. The last USA team got beat somply because they couldn't function as team. Maybe that is because too many of them aren't used to being a team player.
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              • Playmakers
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 15418

                #37
                Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                Originally posted by KDRE
                While Dirk is benefitting from this same thing he's whining about, he should keep his trap shut. Plain and simple.

                Its just ironic that he starts talking out of his behind after an "individual" ripped his entire team a new one. If this softy was taking it on the chin, he wouldn't be talking... yet, he wants to cry because he's been hearing about how one guy did him and his entire team in for 3 days in a row.

                I dont think David Stern needs to listen to a 7 footer with no post up game on how to market his business. Truth is, its bringing the L money, and that's the bottom line.

                Whether you or I agree with it or not, that's the reality of it, and yes, if Dirk wants to continue to hypocrite, I'll call him on it, but until then, he's not going to turn down Mark Cuban's max deal contract offer when his current contract is up soon, so he might as well shut up, or lead by example in his protest of how the NBA is marketed and play for what he considers "teams" in Europe.

                Sounds like a bitter Rockets fan to me. How does Kobe's 62 point game effect the Mavs and Dirk's record or stand in the western conference?

                Now, if this had happened after a guy lit up Dirk and Mavs and bounced them from the playoffs then you might have an argument. Also if you were a Mavs fans you would know that Dirk made similiar comments when Antoine Walker was on his way out of Dallas. Dirk felt like Walker was more about himself than the team. So, this isn't anything new just because Kobe scored 62 points in a regular season game that effect's Dallas position in no way right now.
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                • Playmakers
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 15418

                  #38
                  Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                  Originally posted by ZB9
                  I dont see how Dirk is whining. The guy was answering questions posed to him after that game. If Dirk had "sour grapes", then i doubt he would have been answering so many questions after a loss. anyway, i dont understand how Dirk answering questions like he did, can be called "whining".

                  but Dirk's team has the second best record in the league right now...so he doesnt have any reason to have sour grapes. Losing has been rare for Nowitzki this year.

                  the guy wasnt whining, he was giving his opinions on the questioned asked to him, and he didnt say he was right or wrong, just that it is the way he sees it right now. Actually, i learned somethin from Dirk's answers to those questions. A lor of you kids should try and take something from views that are different than yours. Open your minds and try and learn something from other people.

                  Yeah I think some of these guy's must be confusing the Mavs with the Hawks. Why would he need to be sour he's on the 3rd best team in the NBA right now and winning games at a .700 rate yet he's bitter?

                  He'll go out and do his job like he normally does and he does it playing unselfish every night. I've heard Dirk throw out major compliments to just about every NBA super star there is the guy is as unselfish as they come. He never gives any credit to himself and the first things out his mouth is "WE".

                  Heck we people make fun of the Lakers by calling them the "KOBE's" and the Cavs the "LeBron's" so what is the difference?
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                  • motorcrossman1
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1976

                    #39
                    Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    MLB televises those matchups because they are the 3 biggest TV markets not because they are intrested in promoting the teams over individuals.

                    I agree with your points about the commercials though.
                    if anyone is to it's ESPN and the rest of the media riding highlight guys ***** all the time.

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                    • Kashanova
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 12695

                      #40
                      Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      Exactly the only reason why some of these guy's are upset is because it's coming from Dirk and not Shaq, TD, KG or Amare.

                      If one of those guy's had made the comment I'm not playing on the USA team because it's going to be all about individual play as opposed to the team play we see with other countries half these guy's wouldn't pay much attention to it.

                      But because Dirk spoke up and stated the obvious about how the NBA game is actually played we have guy's who want to bash him. The sad thing is we speak of Kobe Bryant and Allen Iverson all the time on these boards stating everything Dirk just said yet he's wrong for speaking about it.

                      The truth is Dirk expressed his opinion about the things that most of us complain about when it comes to the NBA. There are NBA experts who bash the game for being the way it is but I don't see anyone calling them bitter or sour. The last USA team got beat somply because they couldn't function as team. Maybe that is because too many of them aren't used to being a team player.
                      im sure u know why guys are mad its not shaq or somebody

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #41
                        Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports



                        i think he was just mad that kobe cracked him in the face.

                        no but seriously.. whats the big deal about what he said? he was pointing out something everybody knows. i just don't see the point in that article at all.

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                        • Pointguard
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 2977

                          #42
                          Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                          Originally posted by VC2k3
                          Ironically, the Mavs are on Natl' TV almost every week on TNT.
                          Not really. Dirk's comments were how the NBA markets NBA stars and players. The Stars/Players who are house hold names and fans vote to start in the All-Star game. Dirk is not one of them. The only reason Dallas is on national TV so much is because they've been one of the top 5 teams in the last 5 years.

                          And Dirk has no say in those games.

                          Originally posted by KDRE
                          While Dirk is benefitting from this same thing he's whining about, he should keep his trap shut. Plain and simple.
                          So he should just say "no comment" for the rest of the year?

                          Honestly, how stupid is that?




                          Originally posted by KDRE
                          Its just ironic that he starts talking out of his behind after an "individual" ripped his entire team a new one. If this softy was taking it on the chin, he wouldn't be talking... yet, he wants to cry because he's been hearing about how one guy did him and his entire team in for 3 days in a row.
                          Did you atcually read the piece?

                          Dirk actually goes on to say "Kobe put on a show" and "Kobe was amazing".

                          But wait, let's examine these new Dirk statements. I'm sure he really was being sacrastic and didn't mean it. What a jerk that guy is? No way he complemented Kobe's performance.




                          Originally posted by KDRE
                          I dont think David Stern needs to listen to a 7 footer with no post up game on how to market his business. Truth is, its bringing the L money, and that's the bottom line.

                          Whether you or I agree with it or not, that's the reality of it, and yes, if Dirk wants to continue to hypocrite, I'll call him on it, but until then, he's not going to turn down Mark Cuban's max deal contract offer when his current contract is up soon, so he might as well shut up, or lead by example in his protest of how the NBA is marketed and play for what he considers "teams" in Europe.
                          KDRE, where does Dirk say that Kobe is playing the wrong way? Where. Please show me. Where does Dirk say the Euor style is better? I'm looking but it aint there. Your ignoring questions that you cant answer. Cuz if you answered the question, you'd look like a complete fool for calling Dirk out.

                          The botton line is Dirk never said European style, money, or the game was better. he said they were different. He said fans in the USA like the "star" player while over in Europe, they like the "team".

                          However, again, he doesn't say that one way is better than the other so you saying he needs to go back to Europe and cash in his check he gets from Cuban is ridiculious and without merit.




                          no but seriously.. whats the big deal about what he said? he was pointing out something everybody knows. i just don't see the point in that article at all.
                          Well there is no point like 90% of what NBA players say in interviews. You should probably ask the interviewer and see why he asked the stupid question. The answer to it was obvious.

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                          • HMcCoy
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8212

                            #43
                            Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                            If a guy took nothing but boring set shots and wimpy layups, he would not be an interesting or compelling player to watch, even though the shots generate the same 2 points per. I would have to strongly disagree with anyone (even my main man monkey ) who looks upon the excitement, grace, and artistic nature of basketball as a negative. Whether it's watching VC yam on 2 defenders, or watching Chauncey battle Stoudamire for the pristine fallaway at the buzzer...exciting players are obviously exciting to watch. Who wouldn't promote that excitement?

                            I agree that the search for those types of players may have watered the league, but for my money, some of the ends justify the means. NBA basketball is largely....fantastic. Euro ball and to the same extent, womens basketball, just isn't as intriguing. I can see how some may yearn for less exciting, but more sound basketball, but personally, I take the good with the bad, and accept the games evolution. Dirk and his accountant should as well...
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                            • Kashanova
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 12695

                              #44
                              Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                              Originally posted by HMcCoy
                              If a guy took nothing but boring set shots and wimpy layups, he would not be an interesting or compelling player to watch, even though the shots generate the same 2 points per. I would have to strongly disagree with anyone (even my main man monkey ) who looks upon the excitement, grace, and artistic nature of basketball as a negative. Whether it's watching VC yam on 2 defenders, or watching Chauncey battle Stoudamire for the pristine fallaway at the buzzer...exciting players are obviously exciting to watch. Who wouldn't promote that excitement?

                              I agree that the search for those types of players may have watered the league, but for my money, some of the ends justify the means. NBA basketball is largely....fantastic. Euro ball and to the same extent, womens basketball, just isn't as intriguing. I can see how some may yearn for less exciting, but more sound basketball, but personally, I take the good with the bad, and accept the games evolution. Dirk and his accountant should as well...
                              well said great post

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                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #45
                                Re: Dirk whining about Tmac and Kobe and american sports

                                Originally posted by HMcCoy
                                If a guy took nothing but boring set shots and wimpy layups, he would not be an interesting or compelling player to watch, even though the shots generate the same 2 points per. I would have to strongly disagree with anyone (even my main man monkey ) who looks upon the excitement, grace, and artistic nature of basketball as a negative. Whether it's watching VC yam on 2 defenders, or watching Chauncey battle Stoudamire for the pristine fallaway at the buzzer...exciting players are obviously exciting to watch. Who wouldn't promote that excitement?

                                I agree that the search for those types of players may have watered the league, but for my money, some of the ends justify the means. NBA basketball is largely....fantastic. Euro ball and to the same extent, womens basketball, just isn't as intriguing. I can see how some may yearn for less exciting, but more sound basketball, but personally, I take the good with the bad, and accept the games evolution. Dirk and his accountant should as well...

                                Bottom line

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