***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

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  • Court_vision
    Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #3841
    Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

    Originally posted by Leon
    Yes, and all I want to see is for him to have that attacking attitude back with his game now. He'd be way better than shooting 3's and settling for jumpers most of the time.

    And I'm not saying T-Mac hasn't thrived under JVG but JVG runs the same offense all the time. If they're not going to replace JVG, at least get an assistant coach who can give them more plays on offense.
    Bring in Mario Elie

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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #3842
      Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

      I think a lot of us here are disaapointed Houston is out.

      We shouldn't take away from the Jazz...they played a great series.

      Utah v GS will be something special IMO.

      Nellie ball = the most non tradtional offense / non play dependant team in the game.

      v.

      Sloans offense = the most traditionally run, play dependant team in the game.

      What a contrast.

      Really will be fascinating to watch IMO.

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      • Leon
        An Old Trafford
        • Mar 2003
        • 4981

        #3843
        Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

        Originally posted by Court_vision
        Bring in Mario Elie
        Well, that's up to the Rockets. If they want to succeed before T-Mac and Yao are past their prime, they have to do something.

        Those guys need to play with fire. They're way too good to play the way they did in this series.

        I think a lot of us here and disaapointed Houston is out.

        We shouldn't take away from the Jazz...they played a great series.

        Utah v GS will be something special IMO.

        Nellie ball = the most non tradtional offense / non play dependant team in the game.

        v.

        Sloans offense = the most traditionally run, play dependant team in the game.

        What a contrast.

        Really will be fascinating to watch IMO.
        True. I have a feeling GS will win that series though.

        As for me, I'm just sad 'cause I've got no one to root for. Guess I'll just enjoy the playoffs now.
        Last edited by Leon; 05-06-2007, 12:12 AM.
        "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #3844
          Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

          Originally posted by Leon
          Well, that's up to the Rockets. If they want to succeed before T-Mac and Yao are past their prime, they have to do something.

          Those guys need to play with fire. They're way too good to play the way they did in this series.
          Same coach

          Multiple years

          Different players

          Same results

          Sorry, there is one thing consistent and that's the coach.

          Fire him and trade Tmac to the Lakers for Odom and Kwame.

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          • Leon
            An Old Trafford
            • Mar 2003
            • 4981

            #3845
            Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

            Originally posted by KDRE_OS
            Same coach

            Multiple years

            Different players

            Same results

            Sorry, there is one thing consistent and that's the coach.

            Fire him and trade Tmac to the Lakers for Odom and Kwame.
            I doubt that would happen.

            And if that does happen, man, that'll be kinda hard for me to root for Mac. Never really liked the Lakers. It'll probably be enjoyable to watch though.
            Last edited by Leon; 05-06-2007, 12:23 AM.
            "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

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            • Rocky
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 6896

              #3846
              Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

              Originally posted by KDRE_OS
              Same coach

              Multiple years

              Different players

              Same results

              Sorry, there is one thing consistent and that's the coach.

              Fire him and trade Tmac to the Lakers for Odom and Kwame.
              To play Devil's Advocate.....JVG has gotten out of the first round in the playoffs. T-Mac hasn't.

              Congrats to Utah....1-12 the better team.
              "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
              -Rocky Balboa

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              • Court_vision
                Banned
                • Oct 2002
                • 8290

                #3847
                Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                Great article.

                I know T-Macs hurting right now, he was in tears after the game...

                Like Dirk, it's sad to see a guy kicked when he's down...but this comment is spot on.

                Mac would do well to read it / listen.



                But it is McGrady who will walk away from this with another bruise on his reputation and over the course of seven games, it is entirely deserved.
                Whenever he finally gets it through his head that to be a true superstar he has to commit himself to the task every night and in every quarter, he will finally rise to the level he thinks he's at.

                T-Mac opened the game 1-for-5 and shooting jumpers. He eventually decided that it was up to him and kicked his game into gear and helped drive the Rockets back. He attacked the basket to get the most critical of his 29 points. He dished 13 assists.

                But when the game was tied at 88-all with just under five minutes left in the game, where did McGrady go? Back to the jumper. Twice in a row. He hostied up a 3-pointer that missed. Then he tried a 17-footer that missed.

                The next time he took a shot, the Rockets were down by four and the final seconds were running out. He drove for a layup, but it was too late.

                It always seems to be too late was too early in the playoffs for T-Mac.

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                • Psyblast
                  2023 National Champions
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 42584

                  #3848
                  Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                  T-Mac and Kobe together...why would they even put three other people on the court? They'd never see the ball.

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                  • Brandon13
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8915

                    #3849
                    Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                    Originally posted by Rocky
                    To play Devil's Advocate.....JVG has gotten out of the first round in the playoffs. T-Mac hasn't.
                    Haha, good point.

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                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #3850
                      Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                      Originally posted by Rocky
                      To play Devil's Advocate.....JVG has gotten out of the first round in the playoffs. T-Mac hasn't.

                      Congrats to Utah....1-12 the better team.

                      Not in Houston he hasn't.

                      Maybe under the old rules with Pat Riley's players about 10 years ago

                      Since then, he has been nothing but a stalemate.

                      Not with Francis

                      Not with Francis and Yao

                      Not with McGrady

                      Not with McGray and Yao

                      He has lost touch with todays game and will pay for it with his job.

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                      • HMcCoy
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8212

                        #3851
                        Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                        Originally posted by KDRE_OS

                        Same coach

                        Multiple years

                        Different players

                        Same results

                        Sorry, there is one thing consistent and that's the coach.

                        Fire him and trade Tmac to the Lakers for Odom and Kwame.
                        Same PLAYER

                        Multiple years

                        Different TEAMS

                        Same results

                        Sorry, there is one thing consistent and that's the PLAYER.

                        Works both ways, bro.

                        I agree with Monk. After seeing him break down at the press conference, I really feel bad for the guy. He played well enough to win the ballgame...but lets keep it real. T-Mac should have had 10+ FT attempts in that last quarter. The turning point was pretty appropriate..two missed jumpers by T-Mac, two straight post plays for Boozer including an and 1 (off the classic Utah pnr...Sloan is so old school). I do feel that its time for JVG to go, and that Mac definitly needs some help...but c'mon, this coach and team got you 50+ wins through significant injuries, with the Wells drama, in the friggin West...and was up 5 with a half a quarter to go..IN THE BONUS! No. Excuses.

                        The Rox need some more athleticism at the 4, and a coach who will actually take advantage of what a Skip to My Lou and Luther Head can give you in the open floor. Boozer outrunning Howard(I think) and Yao to that last loose ball was the game winner, but again, this was T-Mac's game to lose.

                        BTW, Dre... Kobe and T-Mac together would be just rediculous....like 4 straight 'chips rediculous with any servicable bigs.
                        Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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                        • Court_vision
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 8290

                          #3852
                          Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                          Originally posted by Leon


                          True. I have a feeling GS will win that series though.
                          I don't know. I think Utah may well beat them.

                          GS likes to play a team of 6-8 bigs...and it worked perfectly against Dallas as they could leave the Mavs C's unguarded.

                          If they do that v Utah...the Jazz frontline can all score and they're all huge.

                          So...they won't be able to double Boozer non stop.

                          If they man to man Boozer with 6'8 guys, he'll eat them alive.

                          Utah executes very well in the half court...so GS won't be able to get a lot of fastbreak chance also.

                          Bad match up for GS IMO.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #3853
                            Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                            Whether or not JVG is to blame, the Rockets went brain dead at the end of the game. Unless Van Gundy specifically ordered his players not to foul after a made shot, the players simply didn't deserve to win with that inexplicable sequence.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #3854
                              Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                              Originally posted by HMcCoy
                              Same PLAYER

                              Multiple years

                              Different TEAMS

                              Same results

                              Sorry, there is one thing consistent and that's the PLAYER.

                              Works both ways, bro.

                              I agree with Monk. After seeing him break down at the press conference, I really feel bad for the guy. He played well enough to win the ballgame...but lets keep it real. T-Mac should have had 10+ FT attempts in that last quarter. The turning point was pretty appropriate..two missed jumpers by T-Mac, two straight post plays for Boozer including an and 1 (off the classic Utah pnr...Sloan is so old school). I do feel that its time for JVG to go, and that Mac definitly needs some help...but c'mon, this coach and team got you 50+ wins through significant injuries, with the Wells drama, in the friggin West...and was up 5 with a half a quarter to go..IN THE BONUS! No. Excuses.

                              The Rox need some more athleticism at the 4, and a coach who will actually take advantage of what a Skip to My Lou and Luther Head can give you in the open floor. Boozer outrunning Howard(I think) and Yao to that last loose ball was the game winner, but again, this was T-Mac's game to lose.

                              BTW, Dre... Kobe and T-Mac together would be just rediculous....like 4 straight 'chips rediculous with any servicable bigs.


                              Yep Tmac will be blamed and asked for it. Too bad he didn't take advantage of those last few minutes that Utah was in the penalty.

                              As I said earlier he failed. Yao got dominated by Boozer and abused by Okur on the other end. Just too bad. Role players were non existant.

                              I think Tmac and Kobe could co-exists Psy simply because they have what eachother needs and Tmac is not always looking to score, much more to pass if you watch... in waning moments like tonight Kobe would have had the energy to take over because the double teams would be worrying about tracy's penetration instead.

                              Thing is HMC, they could actually do it, but I don't think Mitch is that smart.

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                              • Court_vision
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 8290

                                #3855
                                Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                                T-Mac at the press conference breaking down...

                                Got to feel for the man.

                                IMO him and Dirk were the two best players in the regular season not called Steve Nash...but both are going to be hammered for a year. Nothing they can do will get people off their backs before next seasons playoffs.

                                Very harsh on both.

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