***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

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  • TheMatrix31
    RF
    • Jul 2002
    • 52926

    #6991
    Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

    It's not a conspiracy by the NBA for the Spurs. It is desensitization and brainwashing by the Spurs towards the NBA. Their style of play has slowly been adjusted to by the refs, and well, they get all the crap because of it.

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    • bball_1523
      MVP
      • Aug 2003
      • 5344

      #6992
      Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

      Originally posted by KDRE_OS
      and Duncan is still just a solid player? lol man really.

      The 2nd half of the season is the time to heat up and the Spurs have been the hottest team since then. This is when it counts the most.
      well I did revise my views on that and said he is one of the best players in the league right now. What else can I say?

      Yes spurs are doing it when it counts, I'm just against them for some reason. I think the reason started moreso in game 4 of the suns/spurs series. I still can't get over that. Man I can't get over when the Kings got ripped off the lakers. LOL I wonder why I'm still watching the nba. I need help.

      I won't hide anything, I honestly think the nba is up to something. It could be fixed for particular reasons or maybe not. But there has to be something wrong that is not so obvious. I'm trying to figure it out.

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      • Brandon13
        All Star
        • Oct 2005
        • 8915

        #6993
        Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
        It's not a conspiracy by the NBA for the Spurs. It is desensitization and brainwashing by the Spurs towards the NBA. Their style of play has slowly been adjusted to by the refs, and well, they get all the crap because of it.
        I think Bill Simmons was probably right when he said a lot of the flopping can be attributed to the European players coming over. They grew up around soccer which is well known for excessive flopping so they figured if it works in soccer surely it'll work in basketball. They were right.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #6994
          Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

          Originally posted by Brandon13
          I think Bill Simmons was probably right when he said a lot of the flopping can be attributed to the European players coming over. They grew up around soccer which is well known for excessive flopping so they figured if it works in soccer surely it'll work in basketball. They were right.
          Ask yourself why the league allows flopping for one second and how it has become so prevalent.

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          • darrenp1518
            Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 454

            #6995
            Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

            Originally posted by Brandon13
            I think Bill Simmons was probably right when he said a lot of the flopping can be attributed to the European players coming over. They grew up around soccer which is well known for excessive flopping so they figured if it works in soccer surely it'll work in basketball. They were right.
            and thats the entire problem here, soccer is a completely different sport, and pretty soon basketball will be just like soccer because of european influence. if u haven't noticed, there has been a huge increase in charging fouls over the last few years

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            • darrenp1518
              Banned
              • Oct 2003
              • 454

              #6996
              Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

              Originally posted by KDRE_OS
              Ask yourself why the league allows flopping for one second and how it has become so prevalent.
              why dont u inform us??

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                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #6997
                Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                Originally posted by bball_1523
                well I did revise my views on that and said he is one of the best players in the league right now. What else can I say?

                Yes spurs are doing it when it counts, I'm just against them for some reason. I think the reason started moreso in game 4 of the suns/spurs series. I still can't get over that. Man I can't get over when the Kings got ripped off the lakers. LOL I wonder why I'm still watching the nba. I need help.

                I won't hide anything, I honestly think the nba is up to something. It could be fixed for particular reasons or maybe not. But there has to be something wrong that is not so obvious. I'm trying to figure it out.


                He IS the best player in the league right now, not just one of them.

                The PHX game was moreso a bogus rule than it was the Spurs. I wanted to see PHX come through as well but they didn't.

                Now the Kings they got screwed, sorry.

                Then again there was the thing of losing games 1 and 7 on your homecourt.

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                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #6998
                  Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                  Originally posted by darrenp1518
                  why dont u inform us??
                  ?

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                  • Pointguard
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2977

                    #6999
                    Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                    Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                    Ask yourself why the league allows flopping for one second and how it has become so prevalent.
                    I dont think there is an answer to that b/c there is no reason to allow it. I just dont see how it would be a good thing for anybody, make the game more enjoyable. I think what it is instead is that its hard to tell with replay when flopping occurs and when it doesnt.

                    Let me say this: It would case JUST AS MUCH uproar if a ref let a play go that he thought was a flop, but it wasnt. The refs are never going to be able to win. If they do start calling offensive flops for flopping, when flopping doesnt occur and its just a bad call, you better believe the refs will get an ear full from fans all over.

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                    • bball_1523
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 5344

                      #7000
                      Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                      Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                      He IS the best player in the league right now, not just one of them.

                      The PHX game was moreso a bogus rule than it was the Spurs. I wanted to see PHX come through as well but they didn't.

                      Now the Kings they got screwed, sorry.

                      Then again there was the thing of losing games 1 and 7 on your homecourt.
                      I guess he is, I personally think Nash is the best and got ripped off. Now TD is the best of the remaining. But again this is all my opinion.

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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52926

                        #7001
                        Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                        Nash is not the best player in the league. Sorry.

                        Nash is probably the best maximizer in the league. Not the best player.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #7002
                          Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                          Originally posted by Pointguard
                          I dont think there is an answer to that b/c there is no reason to allow it. I just dont see how it would be a good thing for anybody, make the game more enjoyable. I think what it is instead is that its hard to tell with replay when flopping occurs and when it doesnt.

                          Let me say this: It would case JUST AS MUCH uproar if a ref let a play go that he thought was a flop, but it wasnt. The refs are never going to be able to win. If they do start calling offensive flops for flopping, when flopping doesnt occur and its just a bad call, you better believe the refs will get an ear full from fans all over.
                          I'll throw out a couple

                          By changing the rules and making defense softer they probably encouraged it, willingly or not.

                          David Stern's dream of incorporating a european style basketball into the NBA.

                          Too many rule changes in favor of offense, especially how you can't even breathe on a perimeter player.

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                          • bball_1523
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 5344

                            #7003
                            Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                            Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                            Nash is not the best player in the league. Sorry.

                            Nash is probably the best maximizer in the league. Not the best player.
                            oh well, I know you're a suns fan, but I'll keep my opinion. I have been heavily influenced by nash lately even in my own game. I love his skill.

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                            • Snigitty James
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 615

                              #7004
                              Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                              Originally posted by Pointguard
                              Is Okur gonna show up?

                              Considering he hasnt yet, its got to happen eventually. Or maybe not. Utah needs someone besides Deron and Boozer to give them some offense. Maybe Fisher, but its got to be him or Okur IMO.


                              No, he decided to take this series off ans screw us over. Honestly, Okur needs to grow some balls and step up like he should in big games. In all likelihood it's already over and he sure played a part (or the lack thereof) in that.

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                              • daflyboys
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 18238

                                #7005
                                Re: ***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

                                Originally posted by gibbzilla558
                                How about Ron Artest?

                                I DESPISE RON ARTEST!


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