***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

[Sarah]

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Your logic makes zero sence, did any of those teams have a player like Lebron that demands as much attention as he does and is a SF/SG? Nash sure, but he looks to pass first and doesnt have the strength to get into the teeth of the Spurs defense and finish, Marion was horrible in the playoffs and he hasnt exactly lit it up in the playoffs ever, you would have been better off saying Amare/Nash. San Antonio didnt even play Dallas this year in the playoffs and last year when they did Dallas won so that argument makes no sence either. Lastly, the Lakers and Spurs had some great series and I wouldnt say that the Spurs dominated them either, so its very believable that with Gibson starting and their offense having more of a punch from the start because of it that the Cavs could win this series. Does anyone have the stat for what the point difference is when Gibson is on the floor this series as opposed to Hughes?

Here we go bringing up something about "well SA lost to DAL last year". It sounds like last year was the first time SA faced DAl. Experience has nothing to do with what happen this season. It is an accumulation of what you have learned when you fall and and won. Is CLE the best team SA has ever faced so far since the retirement of David Robinson? All I am saying is that SA experience plays a huge role in thier advantage over CLE. That's all.

[TheMatrix31]

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Oh boy...

What a waste of a series.

Seriously I'm rooting for the Spurs from here on out to just finish this ****.

Just end it and let's move on from this horrible season and horrible playoffs.

[mizzta21]

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ehh, 4-1 Spurs, everybody anaylizing on who should start or who should match up with who... its obvious spurs are the better team, doesnt matter what clev. throws at them. tonight was a classic case of the spurs relaxing, teasing the cavs with a comeback, then just retaking control. SA is just on a whole different level compared to cleveland. playing Phoenix was their "championship" but what do i know, im here sitting just like any of you guys with nothing to do, but maybe sleep.

[The Chef]

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Here we go bringing up something about "well SA lost to DAL last year". It sounds like last year was the first time SA faced DAl. Experience has nothing to do with what happen this season. It is an accumulation of what you have learned when you fall and and won. Is CLE the best team SA has ever faced so far since the retirement of David Robinson? All I am saying is that SA experience plays a huge role in thier advantage over CLE. That's all.

You the were the one trying to say that Gibson starting wouldnt make a difference because of who the Spurs have played in the past, Lebron draws so much attention that having a competent shooter on the floor like Gibson can make a world of a difference. For instance, I dont think the Spurs respect Hughes outside shot so they can constantly sag off of him to help on Lebron, if Gibson is in the game then they may respect his shot more and thus open the floor more for Lebron, and thats all Im saying. Cleveland needs Gibson and either Donyell or Sasha out there to spread out the offense, and if nobody is going to stop Parker from driving they might as well give Damon Jones a shot at knocking down some three's because so far not much else has worked consistently.

[RobtAndProud]

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Great night, spurs owned ***! I love a competitive game but damn, how embrassing. I swear to god, if they dont start gibson then they are idiots!!!

GO SPURS GO

[Sarah]

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You the were the one trying to say that Gibson starting wouldnt make a difference because of who the Spurs have played in the past, Lebron draws so much attention that having a competent shooter on the floor like Gibson can make a world of a difference. For instance, I dont think the Spurs respect Hughes outside shot so they can constantly sag off of him to help on Lebron, if Gibson is in the game then they may respect his shot more and thus open the floor more for Lebron, and thats all Im saying. Cleveland needs Gibson and either Donyell or Sasha out there to spread out the offense, and if nobody is going to stop Parker from driving they might as well give Damon Jones a shot at knocking down some three's because so far not much else has worked consistently.

For one Gibson is prone to mistakes against the very experience players of SA. That is probably one of the reason why Brown is reluctant to put him in. Didn't he fouled a 3 point shot tonight that went in? That strategy that you mention, you think Popovich doesn't know that knowing fully well that is what brought DET down? All they have to do is cut off the passing lanes of Bron towards any long range threats of CLE, which is what they did in Game 1. This is what Bron said after game 1.

"I tried to force a lot of passes in there that looked open at times but really (weren't)," James said.

If James can't connect a pass to the right person, it results in missed shots. Not to mention SA has an uncanny ability (thanks to thier experience) to recover thier defense.

[TheMatrix31]

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Wow. No smiles, smirks, or anything! You must mean business.

[Sarah]

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Wow. No smiles, smirks, or anything! You must mean business.

I forgot about that, it is already 3 in the morning. So, how is PHX doing lately after the SA series? I've heard they are not getting ATL's pick for this upcoming draft.

[Brandon13]

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I hope Cleveland finds a way to battle back here, but I'll be surprised if the series returns to SA. SA has one great player and two very good ones along with other good role players. Cleveland has LeBron and occasionally Gooden, Gibson or Ilgauskas. I think the talent difference is just too much to overcome.

[blackceasar]

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This is my first post in this thread........

Im not a Spurs or Cav's fan, but It would be NICE to see Lebron get a ring so early in his career to shut up the nay sayers. But thats fantasy, thats not reality. Reality is that the Cavs are going to get swept. They will make a game out of it in games 3 and 4 back home in Cleveland but 1. The Spurs have too much talent, and the Cav's have nothing but Lebron.

There are two types of teams that win NBA championships. You either have a team while not having any bonafide super star on it, thier starting 5 plays as one unit, and that unit as a whole is capable of beating anyone. This is why Detriot is always a favorite in the east. The other type of team is a team that while it doesnt always run like a well oiled machine, there are usually two stars to compliment each other. Shaq and Kobe on the Lakers championshiop teams. Johnson and Kareem, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Wade with the heat.

The Spurs are so strong because they are both types of teams and Cleveland is neither. Not only do the Spurs have two bonafide super stars to compliment each other in Duncan and Parker, the rest of that team plays like a well oiled machine. Its like the pistons of two years ago, but with two bonafide go to super stars. Cleveland has Lebron. Thats it. There is no other player to consistently be a threat other than Lebron. So The Cavs being like that one-two punch championship team is non-existant. They arent that detriot type of team either cuz with or without Lebron, that team doesnt play like a well oiled machine.

This is why the Cavs will loose (and I dont have to bring the Spurs side into this).

1. There is no real point guard. Boobie WILL be that guy in the future, but Mike Brown is too little too late with utilizing this guy to get things done this year.

2. There is no other threat other than Lebron. There needs to be another star on that team. Hell, the Spur's 6th man is better than all of cleveland's starters except for Lebron.

3. Illgauskus needs to remember, on any given night, unless he's playing against Houston or Miami, he's the biggest man on the floor. He doesnt play like that though. So many times in these past two games has he got the ball out of a double team, lane wide open, hes about 10 feet on the baseline from the basket and opts for a lazy jumper rather than taking it to the hole, drawing the contact, forgetting Duncan will bounce rigiht off of him wether he makes the shot or not.

4. Anderson Varajeau(sp?) WTF??? I dont know what the hype is about this guy. Chalk it up to youth and inexperience maybe? But while he's not afraid to take it to the hole and power it in and get the contact (something Illgauskus forgot how to do), the prob with Anderson is that he has poor court awareness out of the doubleteam. I can count about 9 times over the past two games where Lebron picked up the double team on the perimieter or just inside, Anderson's man left him to help, Lebron see him wide open, passes the ball..... *fumble* doh! "i didnt know you were passing me the ball, im sorry i fubmbled it and by the time i got my hands on it, Duncan was there in my face contesting my shot".

5. Free throws.

6. The Coach.... dont care what this team has done this year. Mike Brown is a a joke.

Is there any viable free agents coming up this year that would help Lebron? As long as the team stays as it is, and thier big men cant get it done (minus Gooden but even hes sparratic at times), then the Cavs will be one of those good regular season teams but wont ever get it done in the playoffs.

[Bizzy Da Kid]

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Does Cle run any plays besides Pick and Roll and Iso for LBJ?

[blackceasar]

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Oh boy...

What a waste of a series.

Seriously I'm rooting for the Spurs from here on out to just finish this ****.

Just end it and let's move on from this horrible season and horrible playoffs.

I think we were doomed either way. SA blows out Cleveland in a swift 4 games *snore*.. granted there is always the hopes of every night the Cavs actually winning one of those games... so people stay tuned in because if the "impossible" happened, youd wanna be there to have seen it yourself.

If they had played Detroit, I wouldnt have turned on the set to watch any of this. It would have been even more boring. The series would have been basically a conflip of two fairly evenly matched teams. One has no superstar on it to get you excited, and the other one does, but hes not exciting to watch at all.

[Bizzy Da Kid]

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I didnt know basketball had to be exciting to watch.

If you love the game then you watch it regardless.

I dont like watching other teams that isnt my team but I still stay tuned cuz its basketball, I love this game!!!

On topic, in order for LBJ and Co. to win, Hughes needs to be benched, Big Z needs more bench time or he needs a swift kick in the *** and finally, Coach Brown needs to get a clue. Run LBJ off screens and keep the defense working and moving.

[blackceasar]

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I didnt know basketball had to be exciting to watch.

If you love the game then you watch it regardless.

I dont like watching other teams that isnt my team but I still stay tuned cuz its basketball, I love this game!!!

Depends on the person. I love to fish, but Im not breaking my neck to watch the Bass Master's Classic because to me, its just not exciting.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Good point. NBA just isn't that captivating. Sad to say.