***Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread***

[The Chef]

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Who would win a game between:

Iverson, Bryant, Stephen Jackson, Rasheed Wallace, and Ben Wallace

and

Nash, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Elton Brand, and Yao Ming

Nash, Allen, Garnett, Brand and Ming. At some point I assume Kobe and Iverson would get in a heated argument over shots, Jackson would take one shot and get killed for it while Rasheed would curse out the refs and Ben would sit there and watch it all happen.

[Brandon13]

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Who would win a game between:

Iverson, Bryant, Stephen Jackson, Rasheed Wallace, and Ben Wallace

and

Nash, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Elton Brand, and Yao Ming

That's tough, but I'd probably go with Nash's team.

[GSW]

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That is their age but their bodies are beat up and really closer to about 38.

Realllllly reaching now.

[fowess]

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You know, in a way I can almost understand the man Stephen Jackson more after that short interview then I could before. Lets face it, Jackson is a hot head, plain and simple, but ESPN and other media outlets arent out there to make a player look human they are out there to make certain individuals look like horrible people and Im afraid that at some point Im even guilty of letting ESPN effect my opinion on people.

This is completely off the subject but I think it is somewhat related. Years ago ESPN ran a story about Mark McGwire and all the foundation and charity work he does locally in St Louis, pre-steroid talk, and they made him look like a great guy and I was really touched by the guy. Then ESPN started killing him for steroids and andro etc and it did slightly alter the way I saw the guy, in the end he still did the great community work and spent tons of time with charities when it wasnt necessary but for some reason I let ESPN alter my outlook on the guy.

They did the same thing Albert last year. They killed him over the comments he made about Tom Glavine and Ryan Howard winning the MVP award.

Everyone here in STL knew that he and Howard were good friends and we understood what he meant about Glavine (sort of).

But we all knew about all the charity work he does while the rest of the country was killing him.

[TheMatrix31]

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PHX could always trade Marion and some nice players and picks for KG.

Tomorrow night is the perfect reason why Shawn Marion should be a Sun for life.

And to fowess or whoever thinks KG will help this team..Seriously what the hell is Garnett going to offer that Amare doesn't do, besides his better rebounding? It makes NO logistical sense to me.

[The Chef]

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Even when Nash retires I would still rather have a team of Barbosa and Amare to build around rather then Barbosa and an aging Garnett. Steve cant play forever but Barbosa seems like a capable replacement as long as he can learn to slow down from time to time and not play so out of control all the time, mix Barbosa with Derron Williams' great ability to pick his spots when to break and hes going to be just fine.

[Brandon13]

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Tomorrow night is the perfect reason why Shawn Marion should be a Sun for life.

And to fowess or whoever thinks KG will help this team..Seriously what the hell is Garnett going to offer that Amare doesn't do, besides his better rebounding? It makes NO logistical sense to me.

I think he could guard Duncan better than anyone on Phoenix current roster but I'm still not making that trade.

[The Chef]

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I think Duncan is unstoppable right now and Garnett wouldnt do any better then Thomas or Amare. Duncan is so complete in his offensive game that the only chance you have is to stick a big strong guy on him and hope to push him away from the basket and into taking tough shots but if he gets position then its lights out.

[LIGHTNING]

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Realllllly reaching now.

I predict that Golden State does not even make the playoffs next year and if I am wrong I will give you $200.00

[Brandon13]

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I predict that Golden State does not even make the playoffs next year and if I am wrong I will give you $200.00

Hey, hey, hey... I want in on this too.

[The Chef]

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I predict that Golden State does not even make the playoffs next year and if I am wrong I will give you $200.00

Good grief, while your handing money out you want to give some to me also?

[fowess]

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Tomorrow night is the perfect reason why Shawn Marion should be a Sun for life.

And to fowess or whoever thinks KG will help this team..Seriously what the hell is Garnett going to offer that Amare doesn't do, besides his better rebounding? It makes NO logistical sense to me.

I already said it: The Suns most likely will always have to go thru the Spurs to win it all and Duncan kills them all the time, so Simmons' rationale behind trading for Garnett is that Garnett is the one human on this planet who could ALMOST neutralize Duncan. KG would be an upgrade on the boards (marginally) and defensively.

And, from what I've seen regarding the Suns down the stretch in games (and I will be more than happy to admit I'm wrong if I am) is that they seem to lose any ability to get off good shots down the stretch if someone puts the cuffs on Nash or Nash's shots aren't falling.

Now, KG does have a tendency to dissappear in the clutch BUT if things are breaking down in crunchtime then you can just dump the ball downlow to KG because he's more polished down on the blocks than Amare.

Now, Simmons also said that with KG the Suns will be able to play ANY style they want effectively.

There was more to it, if you haven't read the article, here it is: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...x?name=simmons

[chance]

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Who would win a game between:

Iverson, Bryant, Stephen Jackson, Rasheed Wallace, and Ben Wallace

and

Nash, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Elton Brand, and Yao Ming

Nash, Allen, KG, Elton and Yao only because they have the much better team they have 5 all stars and the other team only has 2 1/2.

[TheMatrix31]

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Duncan is unstoppable, so you can't worry about who's going to do what on him. That's just not feasible.

You worry about the other guys, and KG doesn't help stop the other guys.

[The Chef]

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I already said it: The Suns most likely will always have to go thru the Spurs to win it all and Duncan kills them all the time, so Simmons' rationale behind trading for Garnett is that Garnett is the one human on this planet who could ALMOST neutralize Duncan. KG would be an upgrade on the boards (marginally) and defensively.

And, from what I've seen regarding the Suns down the stretch in games (and I will be more than happy to admit I'm wrong if I am) is that they seem to lose any ability to get off good shots down the stretch if someone puts the cuffs on Nash or Nash's shots aren't falling.

Now, KG does have a tendency to dissappear in the clutch BUT if things are breaking down in crunchtime then you can just dump the ball downlow to KG because he's more polished down on the blocks than Amare.

Now, Simmons also said that with KG the Suns will be able to play ANY style they want effectively.

There was more to it, if you haven't read the article, here it is: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...x?name=simmons

True but do you mortgage the future for a chance at the title? The same chance they already have anyways. I can see what your saying but I dont think Garnett improves them enough to mortgage the future for the present, the West is tough no matter how you look at it, Phoenix, San Antonio, Houston, Utah, Denver, Dallas, Clippers should get better, Lakers can if they add a piece to the puzzle, Golden State took a huge leap since getting Jackson from Indiana, throw in someone like New Orleans bouncing back and I dont see the point.