Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

**Tmacattack** · 03-06-2008, 12:47 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Also, you said in your earlier post,

"Appearently, he can only be sucessful if he has 3 other all stars on his team..."

Well, he has 0 the last two years and made the playoffs in the West while taking Phoenix to 7 games...sooo...you're wrong, pretty simple. Yes he has very good players this year, but he's also 2nd in the Western conference, only a HALF game behind the first place Spurs, so that's about as successful as anyone can be.
And I'm not a Kobe "slurper," in fact I'm not really a big fan of his, but I use my logic before I make irrational statements like the one I quoted in this post. Overall however, I do think LeBron is better.

LeBron
Stronger drives and finishes, can get hit and make the basket
His midrange game is not bad, but he takes ******** fadeaways that piss me off.
Rebounding superior to Kobe
Passing Superior to Kobe(only by a bit)
Seems to be an easier guy to get along with as a teammate
Doesn't seem to have as big an ego as Kobe
In the clutch won't make an amazing fadeaway like Kobe, because he's not a shooter, but will drive and get the basket nonetheless, just not as dramatically, so his last second play is overlooked sometimes
Underrated defense, will give you a couple steals and a block every game, and has decent man to man

Kobe
Just as good a finisher as James, but uses finesse more than strength
Midrange game is excellent, and above average 3 point shooter
Will to win not matched by anyone currently
Very clutch and a terrifying guy to shoot if you're the opponents and up by 1
Very good defense
Has become very unselfish for the sake of the team winning this year, but can still take a game over at any time.

This has the makings of a Bird-Magic duel is Bron gets more teammates, they might meet in the finals a couple of years..

**lbartlett_32** · 03-06-2008, 02:11 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by Tmacattack

This has the makings of a Bird-Magic duel is Bron gets more teammates, they might meet in the finals a couple of years..

T-Mac very nice post. I do disagree with Lebron over Kobe and Also these two players should not be compared with aforementioned. Different era, different ages, and different players. Once again though very nice post.

**malek05** · 03-06-2008, 03:32 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by Psyblast

Once again, this isn't needed, and you've recently been warned about it. One more, and you'll be taking a break from the forums.

Dude, I've seen much worse than this posted on the forum, on a much more consistent basis.

And taken a "break" from operation forums is not going to kill me.

**P2K** · 03-06-2008, 03:49 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by The Soldier

He is not. He has never made an All Star team, and at the young age of 28 (29 the next time he'll miss an ASG), he never will.

That's scary. Dude's only 28, going on 29 until really late this year. Seems like he's 34-35 years old.

**Kashanova** · 03-06-2008, 06:36 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by lbartlett_32

T-Mac very nice post. I do disagree with Lebron over Kobe and Also these two players should not be compared with aforementioned. Different era, different ages, and different players. Once again though very nice post.

aren't they both in there 20's? different eras? kobe's still playing in his prime isn't he?

**lbartlett_32** · 03-06-2008, 11:04 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by Kashanova

aren't they both in there 20's? different eras? kobe's still playing in his prime isn't he?

Different ages, yes. Kobe came into the league in the mid 90's which was a much more difficult league then it was since 02. Larry and Magic came into the league together and left together.

Different eras, yes. Kind of self explanatory. The early 80's to mid 90's were years of amazing basketball due mostly in part to Larry and Magic.

Also Larry and Magic made the NBA and took it to it's highest level (M.J. included) and every since those three it has been a dramatic decline.

**youvalss** · 03-06-2008, 11:11 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by lbartlett_32

...Different era, different ages...

and different agents...

**P2K** · 03-06-2008, 11:46 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by lbartlett_32

Different ages, yes. Kobe came into the league in the mid 90's which was a much more difficult league then it was since 02.

It was?

**BigTigLSU** · 03-06-2008, 11:52 AM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Kind of off topic but why do people make a big deal at what age players hit a certain milestone... if a player comes out early or skips college its obvious he will hit his milestones at a earlier age. What should be important is how many seasons or games it took for the milestone. People saying kobe won his first title at a younger age than jordan without looking at the amount seasons it took is just dumb.

**lbartlett_32** · 03-06-2008, 12:30 PM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by BigTigLSU

Kind of off topic but why do people make a big deal at what age players hit a certain milestone... if a player comes out early or skips college its obvious he will hit his milestones at a earlier age. What should be important is how many seasons or games it took for the milestone. People saying kobe won his first title at a younger age than jordan without looking at the amount seasons it took is just dumb.

I agree. I don't really care about what age someone won what at. If you are a 4 year NBA vet you are still a four year NBA vet no matter of age.

**Cebby** · 03-06-2008, 01:00 PM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by lbartlett_32

I agree. I don't really care about what age someone won what at. If you are a 4 year NBA vet you are still a four year NBA vet no matter of age.

I agree on some levels, but not on others.

It really works both ways. Kobe and Lebron had more chances than a Jordan or any other 3-4 year college player, but at the same time, their career numbers (especially efficiency) are lowered. It's silly to expect an 18 year old to play at the same ability as a 21 year old.

**cdubdiggity** · 03-06-2008, 01:11 PM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Wally has never been an allstar.......

**cdubdiggity** · 03-06-2008, 01:12 PM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

oh...lol guess he was...smh @ using that one year...terrible

**chance** · 03-06-2008, 01:13 PM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by cdubdiggity

Wally has never been an allstar.......

Yea he has

DC · 03-06-2008, 01:20 PM

Re: Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

Originally posted by lbartlett_32

Kobe has been the best player in the league for the last 5 years. Then he was called selfish and not a team player for putting up mind boggling numbers. Now that he has his team in first in the West and his numbers are down (not by much) it's cause he isn't really that good. Kobe is hated by so many much like A-Rod and Tom Brady because they are better than everyone else. Jealousy is a stinky cologne.

Why didn't this post get locked after this.

Good points man

Who is the most complete player in the NBA?

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