Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

How is he underrated even by your standards? You say he's close to Mo and Jameer. Many people in the mainstream media talked about how he could have easily been an All Star this year, and how he was playing like an All Star. That doesn't make sense.

Good post, PrettyT11

[ex carrabba fan]

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How is he underrated even by your standards? You say he's close to Mo and Jameer. Many people in the mainstream media talked about how he could have easily been an All Star this year, and how he was playing like an All Star. That doesn't make sense.

When someone says "he's easily replaceable"

Dismiss his FG%
Dismiss his defensive abiltiy

[Bornindamecca]

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When someone says "he's easily replaceable"

Dismiss his FG%
Dismiss his defensive abiltiy

In this very thread I've seen people acknowledge his defense, and I don't think people are dismissing his FG%. It just has to be placed in the context of how people are guarding him with three career All Stars on the floor. Rondo doesn't see the same defense as CP3, Tony or Harris, so while his % is great, it has to be placed into context if you're going to compare his scoring with those guys.

And again, I think the scouting report on Rondo is that he's a good defender. A few people disagreeing with mainstream opinion doesn't denote "overrated".

[ex carrabba fan]

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In this very thread I've seen people acknowledge his defense, and I don't think people are dismissing his FG%. It just has to be placed in the context of how people are guarding him with three career All Stars on the floor. Rondo doesn't see the same defense as CP3, Tony or Harris, so while his % is great, it has to be placed into context if you're going to compare his scoring with those guys.

Huh? Oh yeah, I forgot TP doesn't play with guys as talented as BOS.

CP3 is a God, I've stated so several times. I know West didn't deserve that AS birth but he's not a slouch. He's also got some shooters in Butler/Peja/Posey.

Harris is a scoring machine, inside and out. I'm weary to say anything about him yet. He has Vinceanity who could have been an All-Star this season.

The point of bringing up Rondo's FG% was to back my assertion that he finishes around the rim as well as any pg.

KG Ray PP are great, but people are making Rondo out to be a Derek Fisher type dude. Not right.

[Bornindamecca]

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Huh? Oh yeah, I forgot TP doesn't play with guys as talented as BOS

I thought you were better than that. Is sarcasm really called for in this discussion? Have I gotten sarcastic with you? Again, if the intelligent, reasonable posters on this messageboard resort to these tactics, the outlook is bleak.

The point of bringing up Rondo's FG% was to back my assertion that he finishes around the rim as well as any pg.

KG Ray PP are great, but people are making Rondo out to be a Derek Fisher type dude. Not right.

The C's have three 20+ scorers on their team besides Rondo. No PG in the league benefits from that situation besides Rondo. It's a little silly to object to people bringing that in as a factor.


I haven't seen anyone compare him to Fisher. Certainly not myself. Either way, he's not underrated overall, or by the mainstream. Most people know Rondo's skillset very well. Case in point, here is his scouting report, which seems pretty spot on.

Overview:Young, defensive-oriented point guard with solid distributing skills. Lacks great size or bulk, but has a terrific wingspan to compensate and is an excellent athlete. Exceptionally quick and a very good ball-handler, which makes him a threat to ignite the break and get out in transition. Does a solid job getting his team into their offense and finding the open man, but can get a bit passive at times as a scorer. Very poor shooter, but improving.

Defense: Small, skinny player with great length and lateral quickness. Closes out extremely fast on shooters and does a terrific job contesting shots. Tough-minded, aggressive defender who is very effective on this end of the ball. Does an outstanding job getting in the passing lanes, freakish wingspan allows him to wrap his arm around and poke balls loose even after getting beat. Excellent defensive rebounder for his position as well. Size and lack of bulk makes him susceptible to being posted up, but does a nice job fighting back. A big part of why Boston is such a strong defensive team.

Sounds about right.

[ex carrabba fan]

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LOL come on man I wasn't being serious about that Spurs thing ease up on me.

I guess it just comes down to the fact that the man plays with 3 HOF's. No team can field 3 players with the scoring ability BOS has, unfortunately that works against Rondo. He'll have a chance to prove himself soon enough when they age.

About D. Fisher, I said "people are making him out to be" that type of player.

Everything on that scouting report I agree with, except he has bulked up-- at least by sight. He's much more cut up now than he was last year.

[malek05]

Re: Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

Charles Barkley is the reason. Trying to find the next one

And in some GM's defense, there have been some decent small PF's as of late.
Big Maxiell
Big Bass
Carl Landry
Big Powe

True, but every one of these dudes is a roll player and i think that only Maxiell could become something more. No way on earth you waste a high draft pick on any of these guys.

Elton Brand is another small power player who comes to mind to.

[HMcCoy]

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Rondo is nice. Just outside of the top 5 or so. The funny part? That reality gives everyone just enough ammo to make their cases, lol. Round and round we goooo!!!

Gotta **** at Borns take on sarcasm after going about two weeks straight of using it so much the mods stepped in and warned everybody. You still my homie tho, lol.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

Rondo is nice. Just outside of the top 5 or so. The funny part? That reality gives everyone just enough ammo to make their cases, lol. Round and round we goooo!!!

Gotta **** at Borns take on sarcasm after going about two weeks straight of using it so much the mods stepped in and warned everybody. You still my homie tho, lol.

LOL I should have put a damn smiley after that line.

I don't doubt Rondo has it "easier" than other PG's at all. I just like how he makes all the right plays, sans last night.

[Bornindamecca]

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Gotta **** at Borns take on sarcasm after going about two weeks straight of using it so much the mods stepped in and warned everybody. You still my homie tho, lol.

No disrespect, Hmac, but you have no perspective on that situation, or me talking to Ex about sarcasm.

I don't doubt Rondo has it "easier" than other PG's at all. I just like how he makes all the right plays, sans last night.

I like how he's playing too. The issue is whether or not he's underrated, or deserving of more than what he gets. My point is that most people are well aware of Rondo's skills. He's playing well, but he's also got a good situation. If you're going to compare him to bonafide scorers in any regard, you just gotta look at the different circumstances. I don't think the degree of difficulty is as high for Rondo because of the roster he's on. That's not a knock on him, just a credit to guys like Parker, who have a whole defense trying to stop them from getting in the lane, but get in the lane and finish ANYWAY. Rondo doesn't have to do that.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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20 and 10? Why 20 and 10 why can't he put up 15 9 8 and 2 playing great defense?

Jason Kidd's stats never came close to Rondo.

Not to mention this is only Rondo's 2nd year starting.

I can tell you know for all the doubters winning a ring 1st year as a starting pg is ridiculously hard.

If Rondo gets a decent jump shot he could very well be the best pg in the game

[DC]

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So can you honestly say that if he and Devin were to switch teams, would he still be putting up the same numbers as he is without KG in New Jersey?

He probably would be scoring way more

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yea ok. You don't even believe that yourself.

Point Blank, it is a ridiculous to even say he is a Top 3 PG in the league RIGHT NOW when he's not even a Top 5 PG.

Top 10? Sure he is.

Oh BTW, before anybody asks, tbe only reason why New Jersey is where they are right now and not worse is because Devin's jumper has finally started to become consistent and fall in more to the point where he almost unguardable one on one.

[DC]

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LOL I do believe he would be scoring WAY more than he is currently scoring. He would be on FAR WORSE ( :lol : ) team and his role wouldn't be to keep everyone happy.

So he would shoot more and probably even be a better shooter that what he is now because he would have more game shooting experience from playing on such a BAD ( ) team.

So yea he would be scoring MORE.

Now would he be scoring as much as Devin, I am not sure about that.

[JBH3]

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LOL I do believe he would be scoring WAY more than he is currently scoring. He would be on FAR WORSE ( :lol : ) team and his role wouldn't be to keep everyone happy.

So he would shoot more and probably even be a better shooter that what he is now because he would have more game shooting experience from playing on such a BAD ( ) team.

So yea he would be scoring MORE.

Now would he be scoring as much as Devin, I am not sure about that.

I don't understand the logic that being on a bad team makes him a "better" shooter.

It gives him more opportunity to shoot/score, but it doesn't make his jumper "fundamentally" better; like all of a sudden he has Ray Allen or Mike Miller stroke because he's shooting 10 more times a game?

I mean Andre Igoudala's jumper hasn't gotten any better since becoming the main scorer on Philly, but lord knows he likes to chuck up jumpers.