Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

[PrettyT11]

Re: Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

So TP's shot was that much superior to Rondo's through his first 2.5 seasons?

Rondo leads pg's in fg%. That's damn impressive. That's why I say he's on that track.

Like I mentioned it's obvious what his weaknesses are, I believe he'll address those issues this summer.

All I can say is Rondo has done nothing but produce since KG and Ray came over. He's done all you asked of him outside of finding a jumper. He plays defense and seems to always make the right pass.

I don't know how to prove that Rondo can finish as well as any PG in the paint except to point to his FG% in the paint and his FG% in general where he is at the top by a bit of a margin.

Yes TP's shot was and will always be WAY better than Rondo's. Rondo isn't that far ahead as you make it seem in overall shooting percentage. He is at 52 percent compared to Nelson and CP3 who are over 50 percent and Calderon who is right at 50. They are all superior shooters th Rondo. Rondo's overall shooting percentage is mis leading. The fact is Rondo is a HORRIBLE jump shooter. He is the WORST shooting guard in the league. He has just got over 30 percent on his 2 point jumpshots.

Compare that to those other guys that are right there with him in overall shooting percentage. All of them are at atleast 47 percent on their 2 point jump shots and Nelson was over 50 percent. Plus Calderon and Nelson are over 42 from three.

Then when you factor in the free throw shooting it gets even worse. Paul is at 86, Nelson 90, and Calderon 98. Rondo is the WORST free throw shooting starting guard in the ENTIRE NBA at 62 percent. That is down right HORRIBLE and show you that his shot is pure garbage. It is going to take more than a summer to fix that shot.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I don't remember who it was(might've been DC)but they posted something that was very interesting in regards to Rondo's FG% and how it flawed it was.

[JBH3]

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Court vision, penetration, and playing in the paint is easy with 3 All Stars on the team.

I think he's a solid player, but not anything above. He's not a liability right now, but he'd be easily replaceable during the offseason.

I don't know about easily.

[johnny4LSU]

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So FT % and 3 % outweigh all of his positives? His vision, court feel, penetration, finish in the paint-- he leads PG's in FG%..

I'm sure he knows what his weaknesses are, it'll be interesting to see if he pushes himself to become a better shooter.

yes thats my point, he needs to become a better shooter . dont get me wrong i like the dude and bostons my favorite team in the east i just dont think if he was on another team he would have the same numbers but like you said time will tell.

[malek05]

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As far as all the Rondo talk, there is no way this guy is a top 3 point guard...like wow...that is pretty out there even for cats on OS... Without getting into a long contrite explanation of it, you cannot be a top 3 point guard if teams will not only give you a wide open 15 foot jump shoot, but will actually bait you in to shooting one.. I would put rondo in my top 10, but not in my top 5. And he is only in the top 10 because of the atrocious quality of pg's in the league now (the only position that has seen a larger decline is Center ) As far as overrated goes...

Matrell Webster : dude was suppose to be the next Ray Allan. A decent shooter, but that's about all he has done. Injured this year so I can't really say much, but definitely not living up to what I was hearing about him when he came out of High School

Tyrus Thomas: To slow to be a sf, to small to be a pf. Get's buy on athleticism. Makes some of the dumbest decisions with the basketball I have ever seen a professional athlete make. You can just tell by the look on his face that he just doesn't get it. Ike Diougu: Ha ha ha, where the hell is this guy at? Dude was a beast at ASU and now has turned into a "through this guy in here to make the salary match" player. I don't understand why coaches take chances on undersized guys at power positions. Maybe more to come after happy hour :wink:

[DC]

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I don't understand why coaches take chances on undersized guys at power positions

Charles Barkley is the reason. Trying to find the next one

And in some GM's defense, there have been some decent small PF's as of late.
Big Maxiell
Big Bass
Carl Landry
Big Powe

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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my opinion i think RONDO is overrated as hell... i mean if u was on the court with 3 future hall of famers you would put up some numbers too i'd think.. i mean rondo cant shoot 3's and hes in the 60's percentage with his free throws...If you're a guard and a point guard at that in the NBA you gotta be able to hit the free ones... IMO if he was on another team he wouldnt be this good.

What has Rondo did w/o KG? He's putting up better stats then KG scoring,assist,and damn near rebounds. The Big 3 case is far old please bring up a new argument.

Magic Johnson--Kareem,James Worth,

Danny Ainge--Bird,McHale,Parish,Johnson

Zeke---Dantley,Dumars,Lambier,Rodman

Nash-Dirk,Finley,Jamision,Van Exel

Nash(Suns)-Stat,Marion,Joe Johnson


Every great pg has talent around him quit penalizing one player because you have no arguments to put up.

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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So 3 games in a row with No jumpshot with only two HOF players Rondo puts up

17 points 3 assist 7 rebounds 60% Shooting vs. B.Davis

14 points 8 assist 8 rebounds 71% shooting vs. Billups in which he barely played due to thrashing...He almost had a triple double in the 1st half

32 points 10 assist 6 rebounds 72% shooting vs.Nash

Thats 21ppg 7 assist 7 rebounds 68% shooting w/o KG

[ProfessaPackMan]

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So can you honestly say that if he and Devin were to switch teams, would he still be putting up the same numbers as he is without KG in New Jersey?

[P2K]

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So 3 games in a row with No jumpshot with only two HOF players Rondo puts up

17 points 3 assist 7 rebounds 60% Shooting vs. B.Davis

14 points 8 assist 8 rebounds 71% shooting vs. Billups in which he barely played due to thrashing...He almost had a triple double in the 1st half

32 points 10 assist 6 rebounds 72% shooting vs.Nash

Thats 21ppg 7 assist 7 rebounds 68% shooting w/o KG

Damn...and with ONLY 2 HoF players out there? Golly, Rondo might as well mail in those invites for his party in Springfield.

[BigTigLSU]

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What has Rondo did w/o KG? He's putting up better stats then KG scoring,assist,and damn near rebounds. The Big 3 case is far old please bring up a new argument.

Magic Johnson--Kareem,James Worth,

Danny Ainge--Bird,McHale,Parish,Johnson

Zeke---Dantley,Dumars,Lambier,Rodman

Nash-Dirk,Finley,Jamision,Van Exel

Nash(Suns)-Stat,Marion,Joe Johnson


Every great pg has talent around him quit penalizing one player because you have no arguments to put up.

CP3 doesn't

[Cebby]

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What has Rondo did w/o KG? He's putting up better stats then KG scoring,assist,and damn near rebounds. The Big 3 case is far old please bring up a new argument.

Magic Johnson--Kareem,James Worth,

Danny Ainge--Bird,McHale,Parish,Johnson

Zeke---Dantley,Dumars,Lambier,Rodman

Nash-Dirk,Finley,Jamision,Van Exel

Nash(Suns)-Stat,Marion,Joe Johnson


Every great pg has talent around him quit penalizing one player because you have no arguments to put up.

And none of those players were putting up 11 and 8.

When Rondo averages 20 and 12, I'll believe your hype

[Bornindamecca]

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CP3 doesn't

Correct. Neither does D-Will, really.

And none of those players were putting up 11 and 8.

When Rondo averages 20 and 12, I'll believe your hype

Good Post.


Rondo is playing well, but people are taking it too far. Top 3 is ridiculous, most notably because of how far he is from guys like Parker and Harris. Maybe one day, but not today.

[PrettyT11]

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What has Rondo did w/o KG? He's putting up better stats then KG scoring,assist,and damn near rebounds. The Big 3 case is far old please bring up a new argument.

Magic Johnson--Kareem,James Worth,

Danny Ainge--Bird,McHale,Parish,Johnson

Zeke---Dantley,Dumars,Lambier,Rodman

Nash-Dirk,Finley,Jamision,Van Exel

Nash(Suns)-Stat,Marion,Joe Johnson


Every great pg has talent around him quit penalizing one player because you have no arguments to put up.

Man that list is SO flawed and wrong. I will start from the top.

Magic was an all star and finals MVP as a rookie and before Worthy even got there. In fact he had TWO finals MVP's before Worthy ever got to the NBA. So he was already the best in the game before Worthy even stepped foot into the NBA. Even with Kareem and Worthy thats two HOF teammates not THREE like Rondo.

I won't even comment on Ainge cause he wasn't a star and really wasn't a real PG.

Zeke again did not have THREE HOF teammates. Isiah was an all star and put up 20 and 10 before Dumars even got in the NBA and before Dantley was even on his team. Plus Dantley was at the end of his career with the Pistons and wasn't the go to scorer like he was with the Jazz. So again Isiah was an all nba PG BEFORE he got any of his HOF teammates. Plus Bill and Rodman were not HOF players or even All Stars for that matter and really weren't offensive options. They where on the floor for defense.

Nash didn't play with HOF teammates either. Dirk and Finley made all star tams with Nash. Dirk is a possible HOF'er but Finley is no wear near close to HOF level. With the Suns Amare and Marion were all stars not HOF'ers. Plus Amare wasn't an all star before Nash got there. Jamison, Van Exel, and Joe Johnson are bad examples cause none of those guys were even All Stars when they played with Nash. They were role players then. They became all stars after Nash.

So to sum it all up none of those guys you listed EVER played with THREE HOF'ers. Then the first two guys you listed where both All Stars and All NBA players BEFORE they got HOF teammates. So try again. The facts are Rondo is the ONLY one to play with THREE HOF teammates.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Top 3 is ridiculous for Rondo.

But it does seem to me that he is vastly underrated..

Easily replaceable is a joke

My main point in everything from the beginning was that I would take Rondo ahead of Jameer Nelson on my team. And it's close between Rondo and Mo as well.