Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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The thing that seperate Paul from Williams is defense.

If Rondo was blah blah blah bring up a new argument the Big 3 argument is DEAD.Alot of nights Rondo is the best player on the floor lately.

Putting Kobe on Rondo in the Finals is GAME PLANNING. As a starter his rookie season w/o Pierce,Allen,and KG Rondo put up the same numbers as he did in his 2nd season

[fluent2332]

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To those saying Rondo would score more on a team if he was a 1st or 2nd option are smoking crack. Rondo can't shoot! Rondo can't even hit FTs consistently! If Rondo didn't have good players around him, and he was the focal point of the defense, his numbers would take a MAJOR nosedive.

To whoever says Chris Paul is overrated as a playmaker, you're also smoking that stuff too. CP3 can make every type of pass, he'd efficient as a scorer, he understands tempo, etc...

I do agree his assist numbers are probably inflated due to NO's system, but he's still a top PG in the NBA. Paul and Williams are 1a and 1b as far as I'm concerned. They are basically even as far as points and assists go (despite Paul averaging 20+ to WIlliams 19, and Paul 11 assists to Williams' 10), but the fact that Paul averages more rebounds doesn't necessarily make him a better rebounder if that makes any sense. Sometimes Paul takes the rebound himself and start the break. In Utah, Williams may box out for one of his bigs and they get the rebound to pass it to him.

Paul also doesn't play with the athletes that Williams does. Rasual Butler and Peja are not quick to the ball, and West and Chandler are good rebounders, so they may get boxed out, which allows a quick Paul to get to the ball. In Utah, Williams plays with athletic wings and has 2 PFs that are great rebounders (Boozer and Milsap) and Okur is tall enough to grab boards. Its just not Williams responsibility to grab boards.

I agree he's a top PG, you can't debate that. My point was that he's not in his own stratosphere, Williams/Kidd/Nash are all equal in the court vision category. Parker and Harris are better scorers at the position, Rondo is even in terms of finishing at the rim, if not better, Nash/Williams are better shooters (amongst many other PGs), etc. He's very good but I'd take Parker and Williams over him, a young Kidd and Nash too.

[Bornindamecca]

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Great post, Po Pimp.

[PrettyT11]

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ARE YOU A FOOL SHOW ME WHERE I SAID HE WAS BETTER THAN J.KIDD AND I'LL SHUT UP.

Like I said two different situation even DC mentioned

Rondo is playing for his 2nd ring, Kidd was playing for nothing.So of course his stats would be way better but you keep forgetting he shot 40% while Rajon shoots 51% on a championship level team.I don't think you understand the game of basketball.Because EVERYONE OF THE BIG 3 STATS HAS DROPPED SINCE THE TEAM JOINED IS IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE? NO IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE FOCUSED ON TROPHY'S AND RINGS RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL STATS.

Right now Rondo is better than Nash.I never thought Nash was ever the best pg in the game and the main reason the Suns couldn't make it anywhere is because of Parker torching Nash every playoff series.

Rondo's great defense can make up for his only offensive downfall which is shooting.

Like I said show me where I said Rondo is BETTER than Kidd.Right now he does HAVE POTENTIAL to be just as good as Kidd.

You got it man. All you do is change up your words and say nothing to the fact that EVERYTHING you said has been proven WRONG. You are the one that brought Kidd into the discussion with a ******** statement. You keep bringing up Rondo's misleading FG percentage because that is the ONLY area that he is ahead of anybody that you argue him against.

Who mentioned anything about the big 3's numbers. Of course their PPG has dropped cause there is only one basketball and they don't take the same aount of shots. But if you watched and you would know their efficiency has improved and is better than ever. Ray is shooting the ball BETTER percentage wise than EVER before. KG is shooting it better than EVER before. You know why?? It cause they are playing without having to face no stop double teams and because of (here comes that word you hate) extra SPACING on the floor. See how that works??

You can believe he is better than Nash all you want to. It has already been proven Nash is what makes that team go. Look at the records when Nash isn't playing and when he is. The ONLY thing Rondo has on Nash is defense. On the other hand Nash is a FAR superior shooter, better passer, and better playmaker.

Like I said man you got it. You can continue to be the ONLY person here who believes Rondo is a TOP 3 PG, comparable to Kidd, and better than Nash.

[Cebby]

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As a starter his rookie season w/o Pierce,Allen,and KG Rondo put up the same numbers as he did in his 2nd season

No he didn't.

And I can't believe people are seriously saying that Paul isn't the best PG.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Who said he wasn't? Only thing I read about him was that he is supposedly overrated.

[Bornindamecca]

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Who said he wasn't? Only thing I read about him was that he is supposedly overrated.

It's illogical for him to be the best PG and overrated at the same time. Best PG=highest rated. He can only be overrated if he is not the best PG.

[BigTigLSU]

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The thing that seperate Paul from Williams is defense.

If Rondo was blah blah blah bring up a new argument the Big 3 argument is DEAD.Alot of nights Rondo is the best player on the floor lately.

Putting Kobe on Rondo in the Finals is GAME PLANNING. As a starter his rookie season w/o Pierce,Allen,and KG Rondo put up the same numbers as he did in his 2nd season

They gameplaned to leave him open that's why they put Kobe on him so he could double off him he was the weak link on the offense and they felt they could let him be open

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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No he didn't.

And I can't believe people are seriously saying that Paul isn't the best PG.

25 games a starter his rookie season'

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...r=2007&sType=2

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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Cp3 isn't overrated

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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They gameplaned to leave him open that's why they put Kobe on him so he could double of him he was the weak link on the offense and they felt they could let him be open

You must didn't see game 1 and the reason they did it.He controlled the game and picked apart the Lakers Phil even said it himself.

[DC]

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About a year ago Mark Stein make this exact point about CP3. How he plays with one of the most athletic bigs in the league that you can just throw the ball up and he will finish it with a dunk and how he plays with 2 great shooters in West and Peja.

So I understand the idea that CP3 benefits from playing with people that can finish

BUT my question is; what high assist dude DOESN'T have people that can score the ball around him

So it is kinda like a pointless thing to bring up

[NBA2k8 CHAMP]

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About a year ago Mark Stein make this exact point about CP3. How he plays with one of the most athletic bigs in the league that you can just throw the ball up and he will finish it with a dunk and how he plays with 2 great shooters in West and Peja.

So I understand the idea that CP3 benefits from playing with people that can finish

BUT my question is; what high assist dude DOESN'T have people that can score the ball around him

So it is kinda like a pointless thing to bring up

Exactly....I see eye to eye with everything you've said regarding pg play and playing on a good vs. a bad team.

Every PG had finishers and shooter I mean look at Lebron they surrounded him with a team full of Shooters

[BigTigLSU]

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About a year ago Mark Stein make this exact point about CP3. How he plays with one of the most athletic bigs in the league that you can just throw the ball up and he will finish it with a dunk and how he plays with 2 great shooters in West and Peja.

So I understand the idea that CP3 benefits from playing with people that can finish

BUT my question is; what high assist dude DOESN'T have people that can score the ball around him

So it is kinda like a pointless thing to bring up

Where was this great ability to finish before he a Paul hooked up

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Which Players Have the Most Overrated POTENTIAL In The NBA???

About a year ago Mark Stein make this exact point about CP3. How he plays with one of the most athletic bigs in the league that you can just throw the ball up and he will finish it with a dunk and how he plays with 2 great shooters in West and Peja.

So I understand the idea that CP3 benefits from playing with people that can finish

BUT my question is; what high assist dude DOESN'T have people that can score the ball around him

So it is kinda like a pointless thing to bring up

I think it's more of a case of CP3 making his guys look good, than the other way around.