Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

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  • Cebby
    Banned
    • Apr 2005
    • 22327

    #31
    Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

    Your posts are comical but too formulaic.

    You should really go after some people who would rile people up.

    Why not slip in a Larry Bird?

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    • AlexBrady
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3341

      #32
      Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

      Originally posted by Cebby
      Your posts are comical, but too formulaic.

      You should really go after some people who would rile people up.

      Why not slip in a Larry Bird?
      Because he wasn't useless in the clutch, selfish, one dimensional, a coward, or a ringless loser like most of the guys I mentioned.

      The truth hurts.

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      • Cebby
        Banned
        • Apr 2005
        • 22327

        #33
        Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

        Originally posted by AlexBrady
        Because he wasn't useless in the clutch, selfish, one dimensional, a coward, or a ringless loser like most of the guys I mentioned.

        The truth hurts.
        6 of the people you mentioned won championships

        One of them was MVP of the playoffs

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        • AlexBrady
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 3341

          #34
          Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

          Originally posted by Cebby
          6 of the people you mentioned won championships

          One of them was MVP of the playoffs
          5 by my count. Parish was just along for the ride on those great Celtic teams and was usless in clutch time. Elvin Hayes would not have won anything without Wes Unseld. Ditto for Robinson without Duncan. Goodrich was one dimensional and the real star of those Lakers teams was 'The Logo'. Bob McAdoo was a cream puff (like Robinson) jumpshooting big man who didn't play a lick of defense and he should be thanking his lucky stars for Magic, Kareem, and Worthy.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #35
            Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

            Originally posted by AlexBrady
            Really? Wow. You see, most of the great rebounders in todays game have a rebounding range of 3 or 4 body widths in every direction (Howard, Chandler). But Rodman was an 8 space rebounder (8 body widths in any direction), the best of all time bar none! He deservedly was a 2 time defensive player of the year. He was masterful at disrupting his check's offense and essentially scrambling his psyche as well.

            But of course, since Rodman accomplished so much without the ball in his hands he has been overlooked by the media and been labeled a role player. He is a slam dunk Hall of Famer and he has 5 rings for a reason.
            No one is arguing Rodman's rebounding ability.

            It's funny how you put so much stock in a player's HOF credentials based on how clutch they were yet you completely ignore that when evaluating Rodman.

            Rodman was "basketball genius who rarely made mistakes"? LMAO!

            Rodman has five rings for a reason but McAdoo has to thank his lucky stars for the Lakers' legends - I guess Rodman doesn't have to be thankful he played with Thomas, Jordan, Pippen, etc.

            Rodman was a lot more than a role player but he is definitley not a Hall of Famer. I never looked at him as someone who completely changed the game or could dominate it consistently. He was a very good defender but would still get light up by elite big man often enough.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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            • AlexBrady
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 3341

              #36
              Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

              Originally posted by ehh
              No one is arguing Rodman's rebounding ability.

              It's funny how you put so much stock in a player's HOF credentials based on how clutch they were yet you completely ignore that when evaluating Rodman.

              Rodman was "basketball genius who rarely made mistakes"? LMAO!

              Rodman has five rings for a reason but McAdoo has to thank his lucky stars for the Lakers' legends - I guess Rodman doesn't have to be thankful he played with Thomas, Jordan, Pippen, etc.

              Rodman was a lot more than a role player but he is definitley not a Hall of Famer. I never looked at him as someone who completely changed the game or could dominate it consistently. He was a very good defender but would still get light up by elite big man often enough.
              Lol, his job wasn't to score though. His job was to assault the boards and stifle the opponents best scorer and he did that job masterfully. He was an elite defender and he was the best rebounder of all time. That isn't dominating? Rodman was in some very good situations as well but he was more responsible for his titles than McAdoo was during his title runs.

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              • J.R. Locke
                Banned
                • Nov 2004
                • 4137

                #37
                Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                One of the better passers too. I think people forget how high his basketball IQ was.

                I have no problem with him in the hall of fame but his weak college career hurts his chances.

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                • AlexBrady
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3341

                  #38
                  Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                  Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                  One of the better passers too. I think people forget how high his basketball IQ was.

                  I have no problem with him in the hall of fame but his weak college career hurts his chances.
                  His basketball IQ was off the charts but people fail to realize this because he did most of his work without the ball. His wildchild personality hurts his chances more than anything.

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                  • ZB9
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 18387

                    #39
                    Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                    Originally posted by AlexBrady
                    Connie Hawkins, Walt Bellamy, Pete Maravich, Patrick Ewing, George Gervin, Charles Barkley, Elvin Hayes, Bob McAdoo, David Robinson, David Thompson, Robert Parish, Gail Goodrich, Alex English

                    All were either useless in the clutch, selfish, cream puffs, defenseless, and one dimensional.
                    all of those players are legit HOFers

                    Rodman was a great rebounder for some great Pistons and Bulls teams, but he is not a HOFer. He's just not.

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                    • AlexBrady
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3341

                      #40
                      Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                      Originally posted by ZB9
                      all of those players are legit HOFers

                      Rodman was a great rebounder for some great Pistons and Bulls teams, but he is not a HOFer. He's just not.
                      No they are not and you should see the reasons I gave. Rodman didn't have to score alot to be a Hall of Famer.

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                      • OSUFan_88
                        Outback Jesus
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 25642

                        #41
                        Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                        This depends...

                        Is Ben Wallace a HOF'er? If he is, then I'd say Rodman is a yes.

                        BTW, I don't think either deserve the HOF.
                        Too Old To Game Club

                        Urban Meyer is lol.

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                        • ZB9
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 18387

                          #42
                          Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                          Originally posted by AlexBrady
                          He was an elite defender and he was the best rebounder of all time.
                          if Rodman was an elite defender, then why did he never average over 1 block or 1 steal during any season in his career?

                          That isn't dominating? Rodman was in some very good situations as well but he was more responsible for his titles than McAdoo was during his title runs.
                          McAdoo is not in the HOF because of the titles he won with the Lakers later in his career.
                          Last edited by ZB9; 05-12-2009, 03:57 PM.

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                          • ZB9
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 18387

                            #43
                            Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                            Originally posted by AlexBrady
                            No they are not and you should see the reasons I gave. Rodman didn't have to score alot to be a Hall of Famer.
                            Rodman is one of my favorite players ever

                            but he was more of the greatest role player of all time than a HOF type player imo

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                            • AlexBrady
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3341

                              #44
                              Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                              Originally posted by ZB9
                              if Rodman was an elite defender, then why did he never average over 1 block or 1 steal during any season in his career?





                              McAdoo is not in the HOF because of the titles he won with the Lakers later in his career.
                              Looking at numbers to judge defense is a big mistake. Rodman was able to masterfully defend small forwards, power forwards, and even some centers. Since he was 6'7, 227 lbs he was able to run with the guards and bang with the bigs. Sure he couldnt shoot a lick but he never took bad shots. His defense was insistent, pecking, annoying, disruptive, and late hitting. These tactics worked masterfully against mental midgits like Karl Malone. He was a critical part of all 5 championship teams he was on.

                              Originally posted by ZB9
                              Rodman is one of my favorite players ever

                              but he was more of the greatest role player of all time than a HOF type player imo
                              He was more productive than guys like Gervin, Hawkins, and Issel.

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                              • Jukeman
                                Showtime
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10955

                                #45
                                Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

                                Sorry but anybody who says Rodman is not a HOFer doesnt know basketball...

                                FYI def is not about blocks and steals lol smh...

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