Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

[AlexBrady]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

Sorry but anybody who says Rodman is not a HOFer doesnt know basketball...

FYI def is not about blocks and steals lol smh...

Exactly. Sure, he was a nutcase but he was a heck of a basketball player.

[Cebby]

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Sorry but anybody who says Rodman is not a HOFer doesnt know basketball...

Or doesn't believe that everyone should be in the Hall of Fame.

[AlexBrady]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

Or doesn't believe that everyone should be in the Hall of Fame.

Only useless stat sheet fillers right?

[ZB9]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

Looking at numbers to judge defense is a big mistake. Rodman was able to masterfully defend small forwards, power forwards, and even some centers. Since he was 6'7, 227 lbs he was able to run with the guards and bang with the bigs. Sure he couldnt shoot a lick but he never took bad shots. His defense was insistent, pecking, annoying, disruptive, and late hitting. These tactics worked masterfully against mental midgits like Karl Malone. He was a critical part of all 5 championship teams he was on.

That is all true, but when talking about putting someone into the HOF as a rebounding/defensive specialist, they would need some serious numbers to go with it

im not saying numbers say everything. You have to watch the game to see how good of a defender someone is, but a dominant HOF caliber defensive player would pile up some steals and blocks numbers. We are talking about putting someone in the HOF as a defensive specialist

Rodman's rebounding/defense were big keys to those Pistons and Bulls championships, but he was more of a "role player" on those teams than a superstar on those teams imo

He was more productive than guys like Gervin, Hawkins, and Issel.

lol did you watch any of those guys? neither did I

but I do know that Gervin was one of the best scorers of all time, and he was one of the ABA/NBA pioneers

[AlexBrady]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

That is all true, but when talking about putting someone into the HOF as a rebounding/defensive specialist, they would need some serious numbers to go with it

im not saying numbers say everything. You have to watch the game to see how good of a defender someone is, but a dominant HOF caliber defensive player would pile up some numbers

Rodman's rebounding and defense were key to those Pistons and Bulls championships, but he was more of a role player on those teams than a superstar on those teams imo




lol did you watch any of those guys? neither did I

but I do know that Gervin was one of the best scorers of all time, and he was one of the ABA/NBA pioneers

I am saying he is the greatest role player of all time though. He excelled at what he was asked to do (ie. rebound and defend the other teams best scorer). Flashy point totals are very overrated my friend.

I'm not a stats guy at all but Rodman averaged at least 15 rebounds for 7 straight seasons. I dont need to the stats to tell me how good of a rebounder he was but take that for what its worth. A dominant defender doesnt neccesarily need great numbers, so that is a myth.

I saw Gervin, Issel, and Hawkins play and Gervin was one dimensional, lazy, selfish, and clutchless. Hawkins was one dimensional, and Issel was just a stat sheet filler who didn't produce in crunch time.

[buckeyefan78]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

He should be in. I think it's pretty clear IMO.

[ZB9]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

I am saying he is the greatest role player of all time though. He excelled at what he was asked to do (ie. rebound and defend the other teams best scorer). Flashy point totals are very overrated my friend.

I'm not a stats guy at all but Rodman averaged at least 15 rebounds for 7 straight seasons. I dont need to the stats to tell me how good of a rebounder he was but take that for what its worth. A dominant defender doesnt neccesarily need great numbers, so that is a myth.

very good points imo...I agree with all of that

we just agree to disagree whether that equals HOFer when it comes to Rodman

I saw Gervin, Issel, and Hawkins play and Gervin was one dimensional, lazy, selfish, and clutchless. Hawkins was one dimensional, and Issel was just a stat sheet filler who didn't produce in crunch time.

I didnt see any of them play, so I dont know if you are right or not. I do love basketball history though, and researching basketball history, Gervin certainly seems like a legit HOF caliber player imo.

I dont know about Connie Hawkins. As far as Issel, I think he was elected because of his college career also and not just his ABA career...although his pro career sure seemed quite impressive.

[yvesdereuter]

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very good points imo...I agree with all of that

we just agree to disagree whether that equals HOFer when it comes to Rodman



I didnt see any of them play, so I dont know if you are right or not. I do love basketball history though, and researching basketball history, Gervin certainly seems like a legit HOF caliber player imo.

I dont know about Connie Hawkins. As far as Issel, I think he was elected because of his college career also and not just his ABA career...although his pro career sure seemed quite impressive.

What does "role player" mean anyway? When you think about it, every player on every team has a role, so thats kind of a silly term.

[Cebby]

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What does "role player" mean anyway? When you think about it, every player on every team has a role, so thats kind of a silly term.

Not really. If a person's role on the team can be defined by one or two acts, he's a role player.

[SteelersFreak]

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Connie Hawkins, Walt Bellamy, Pete Maravich, Patrick Ewing, George Gervin, Charles Barkley, Elvin Hayes, Bob McAdoo, David Robinson, David Thompson, Robert Parish, Gail Goodrich, Alex English

All were either useless in the clutch, selfish, cream puffs, defenseless, and one dimensional.

This is the worst post I have ever seen in my life. How the hell can you think any of them were worse than Dennis Rodman?

[AlexBrady]

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This is the worst post I have ever seen in my life. How the hell can you think any of them were worse than Dennis Rodman?

All were either soft, defenseless, one dimensional, or chokers. Most were just stat sheet fillers while Rodman acutally had a tangible effect on the outcome of the game.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

All were either soft, defenseless, one dimensional, or chokers. Most were just stat sheet fillers while Rodman acutally had a tangible effect on the outcome of the game.

Just so I can get this straight...

You'd rather have Dennis Rodman than David Robinson?

[AlexBrady]

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Just so I can get this straight...

You'd rather have Dennis Rodman than David Robinson?

Depends on the situation.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

Depends on the situation.

Pick the better player.

[SHO]

Re: Dennis Rodman: Blackballed From the HOF?

Depends on the situation.

Really!!?

And no, Rodman should not be in the HOF as much as I like him. Hall of Very Good? Absolutely.