Jordan Out in Washington

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 12:58 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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KDRE said:
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mvb34 said:
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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Abe didn't force Mike to play!! Mike wanted to play on his own!! Mike used Abe to scratch his itch!!!

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Are you crazy. MJ could have played for any team he wanted to. Remember Phil Jackson's offering?

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No I don't please provide link...

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 12:58 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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KDRE said:
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mvb34 said:
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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Abe didn't force Mike to play!! Mike wanted to play on his own!! Mike used Abe to scratch his itch!!!

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Are you crazy. MJ could have played for any team he wanted to. Remember Phil Jackson's offering?

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No I don't please provide link...

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 01:04 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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Leon said:
Whatever stance you guys have on this subject, you should at least accept the fact that MJ wasn't given a chance to complete what he set out to do in Washington.

His 1st year as a GM, they sucked. Improved on it his 2nd year before playing again. Identical record in his 3rd year. What does this say? You never really got to see him be a full-time GM with his new cast playing on their own without him as a teammate. If he was able to continue his post and do what he wanted do, assemble a winning franchise or not, then judge him.

I don't even get why people bash him as a bad GM even though he's only been one for 3 years. So don't compare him to someone like Jerry West GM-wise, that's unfair, seeing as he's been one for a long time.

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He didn't show any work ethnic to the job!! Being on the golf course instead scouting.....

Ok Jerry West is to good to compare how about Joe Dumars

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 01:04 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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Leon said:
Whatever stance you guys have on this subject, you should at least accept the fact that MJ wasn't given a chance to complete what he set out to do in Washington.

His 1st year as a GM, they sucked. Improved on it his 2nd year before playing again. Identical record in his 3rd year. What does this say? You never really got to see him be a full-time GM with his new cast playing on their own without him as a teammate. If he was able to continue his post and do what he wanted do, assemble a winning franchise or not, then judge him.

I don't even get why people bash him as a bad GM even though he's only been one for 3 years. So don't compare him to someone like Jerry West GM-wise, that's unfair, seeing as he's been one for a long time.

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He didn't show any work ethnic to the job!! Being on the golf course instead scouting.....

Ok Jerry West is to good to compare how about Joe Dumars

**Leon** · 05-09-2003, 01:41 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

I leave you to your opinions. In any case, Jordan's moves as Wizards GM will be graded on how they play next year. Will Brown/Haywood/Dixon/Jeffries blossom this year and so on? Unless Wizards management messes the roster up, that's what people will look at to comment on his GM ability.

When he does get control on a franchise though, then we'll see if he can be a great GM.

**Leon** · 05-09-2003, 01:41 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

I leave you to your opinions. In any case, Jordan's moves as Wizards GM will be graded on how they play next year. Will Brown/Haywood/Dixon/Jeffries blossom this year and so on? Unless Wizards management messes the roster up, that's what people will look at to comment on his GM ability.

When he does get control on a franchise though, then we'll see if he can be a great GM.

**Jsupastar** · 05-09-2003, 02:14 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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mvb34 said:
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Leon said:
Whatever stance you guys have on this subject, you should at least accept the fact that MJ wasn't given a chance to complete what he set out to do in Washington.

His 1st year as a GM, they sucked. Improved on it his 2nd year before playing again. Identical record in his 3rd year. What does this say? You never really got to see him be a full-time GM with his new cast playing on their own without him as a teammate. If he was able to continue his post and do what he wanted do, assemble a winning franchise or not, then judge him.

I don't even get why people bash him as a bad GM even though he's only been one for 3 years. So don't compare him to someone like Jerry West GM-wise, that's unfair, seeing as he's been one for a long time.

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He didn't show any work ethnic to the job!! Being on the golf course instead scouting.....

Ok Jerry West is to good to compare how about Joe Dumars

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MVB34: What are you following MJ around? Who cares if he's on a golf course? Who cares if he's in Chicago? Don't you understand Pollin wanted Mike as a puppet? Pollin has no patience and that's why he let go of Chris Webber in 1998. I'm sure Mike's location wouldn't have been a problem if the Wizards were a winning team. Enough with the constant nitpicking already! Nobody thought in their right mind that Mike was going to make this team a contender in less than 4 years. No matter how you feel about him, the man was not given a fair shot to turn things around. He made the mistake in thinking that some of his players would perform. He was wrong and we who rooted for the Wizards because of him, were wrong too. This team was an ECF contender on paper at pre-season. Instead they become a whining bunch of sensative underachieving pus*ies. Who would've thunk?

**Jsupastar** · 05-09-2003, 02:14 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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mvb34 said:
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Leon said:
Whatever stance you guys have on this subject, you should at least accept the fact that MJ wasn't given a chance to complete what he set out to do in Washington.

His 1st year as a GM, they sucked. Improved on it his 2nd year before playing again. Identical record in his 3rd year. What does this say? You never really got to see him be a full-time GM with his new cast playing on their own without him as a teammate. If he was able to continue his post and do what he wanted do, assemble a winning franchise or not, then judge him.

I don't even get why people bash him as a bad GM even though he's only been one for 3 years. So don't compare him to someone like Jerry West GM-wise, that's unfair, seeing as he's been one for a long time.

<hr /></blockquote>

He didn't show any work ethnic to the job!! Being on the golf course instead scouting.....

Ok Jerry West is to good to compare how about Joe Dumars

<hr /></blockquote>

MVB34: What are you following MJ around? Who cares if he's on a golf course? Who cares if he's in Chicago? Don't you understand Pollin wanted Mike as a puppet? Pollin has no patience and that's why he let go of Chris Webber in 1998. I'm sure Mike's location wouldn't have been a problem if the Wizards were a winning team. Enough with the constant nitpicking already! Nobody thought in their right mind that Mike was going to make this team a contender in less than 4 years. No matter how you feel about him, the man was not given a fair shot to turn things around. He made the mistake in thinking that some of his players would perform. He was wrong and we who rooted for the Wizards because of him, were wrong too. This team was an ECF contender on paper at pre-season. Instead they become a whining bunch of sensative underachieving pus*ies. Who would've thunk?

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 02:28 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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Jsupastar said:
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mvb34 said:
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Leon said:
Whatever stance you guys have on this subject, you should at least accept the fact that MJ wasn't given a chance to complete what he set out to do in Washington.

His 1st year as a GM, they sucked. Improved on it his 2nd year before playing again. Identical record in his 3rd year. What does this say? You never really got to see him be a full-time GM with his new cast playing on their own without him as a teammate. If he was able to continue his post and do what he wanted do, assemble a winning franchise or not, then judge him.

I don't even get why people bash him as a bad GM even though he's only been one for 3 years. So don't compare him to someone like Jerry West GM-wise, that's unfair, seeing as he's been one for a long time.

<hr /></blockquote>

He didn't show any work ethnic to the job!! Being on the golf course instead scouting.....

Ok Jerry West is to good to compare how about Joe Dumars

<hr /></blockquote>

MVB34: What are you following MJ around? Who cares if he's on a golf course? Who cares if he's in Chicago? Don't you understand Pollin wanted Mike as a puppet? Pollin has no patience and that's why he let go of Chris Webber in 1998. I'm sure Mike's location wouldn't have been a problem if the Wizards were a winning team. Enough with the constant nitpicking already! Nobody thought in their right mind that Mike was going to make this team a contender in less than 4 years. No matter how you feel about him, the man was not given a fair shot to turn things around. He made the mistake in thinking that some of his players would perform. He was wrong and we who rooted for the Wizards because of him, were wrong too. This team was an ECF contender on paper at pre-season. Instead they become a whining bunch of sensative underachieving pus*ies. Who would've thunk?

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I would want my GM to be out scouting the next great european player or that diamond in the rut... Mike was not brought in to be a puppet but to do a job!!!

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 02:28 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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Jsupastar said:
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mvb34 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Leon said:
Whatever stance you guys have on this subject, you should at least accept the fact that MJ wasn't given a chance to complete what he set out to do in Washington.

His 1st year as a GM, they sucked. Improved on it his 2nd year before playing again. Identical record in his 3rd year. What does this say? You never really got to see him be a full-time GM with his new cast playing on their own without him as a teammate. If he was able to continue his post and do what he wanted do, assemble a winning franchise or not, then judge him.

I don't even get why people bash him as a bad GM even though he's only been one for 3 years. So don't compare him to someone like Jerry West GM-wise, that's unfair, seeing as he's been one for a long time.

<hr /></blockquote>

He didn't show any work ethnic to the job!! Being on the golf course instead scouting.....

Ok Jerry West is to good to compare how about Joe Dumars

<hr /></blockquote>

MVB34: What are you following MJ around? Who cares if he's on a golf course? Who cares if he's in Chicago? Don't you understand Pollin wanted Mike as a puppet? Pollin has no patience and that's why he let go of Chris Webber in 1998. I'm sure Mike's location wouldn't have been a problem if the Wizards were a winning team. Enough with the constant nitpicking already! Nobody thought in their right mind that Mike was going to make this team a contender in less than 4 years. No matter how you feel about him, the man was not given a fair shot to turn things around. He made the mistake in thinking that some of his players would perform. He was wrong and we who rooted for the Wizards because of him, were wrong too. This team was an ECF contender on paper at pre-season. Instead they become a whining bunch of sensative underachieving pus*ies. Who would've thunk?

<hr /></blockquote>

I would want my GM to be out scouting the next great european player or that diamond in the rut... Mike was not brought in to be a puppet but to do a job!!!

**jod23** · 05-09-2003, 04:17 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Oak tells it like it is!

**jod23** · 05-09-2003, 04:17 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Oak tells it like it is!

23 · 05-09-2003, 04:22 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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jod23 said:
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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Oak tells it like it is!

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Very true, unless someone can tell us they know more about what was going on than Oak.

23 · 05-09-2003, 04:22 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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jod23 said:
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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Oak tells it like it is!

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Very true, unless someone can tell us they know more about what was going on than Oak.

**mvb34** · 05-09-2003, 04:40 PM

Re: Jordan Out in Washington

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KDRE said:
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jod23 said:
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NBAoz said:
Charles Oakley said: "He bailed out that franchise, that's what Mike did. Mike ought to scream bloody murder. Abe Pollin got rich off M.J. He played Mike in a way. Mike could have made $15 million, maybe $20 million for each of those two years if he wanted to. And Abe winds up listening to a bunch of guys who [gave up]. They won't win 25 games next year. They don't know how good they had it with him."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003May7.html

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Oak tells it like it is!

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Very true, unless someone can tell us they know more about what was going on than Oak.

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Of course Oak is his boy he's going stick up for him I like to hear the other side of the story but who cares a billions vs a millions I'd like to have there type of problems

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