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  • Kashanova
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 12695

    #2176
    Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

    Originally posted by NYJets
    Not sure I completely believe Walsh, at least not the part about Saturday's meeting. I think it's really unlikely the Knicks failed to clarify their cap situation in the first meeting. Room for 2 maxes, and Curry's expiring are 2 huge selling points. No way they didn't make that clear.
    yeah there is def alot more going on.....

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    • brahmagoul
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 1860

      #2177
      Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

      I think this whole getting two max guys thing is overrated. Who cares if you have two max players, but not enough talent to go at least eight deep?

      Plus, Eddy Curry's contract isn't going to be enough to get them under the cap for a third max player next year. Sign and trade? Do the Knicks really have enough for a sign and trade next year? Way too many hypotheticals that really aren't that realistic.

      Anyone who'd go to New York over Chicago is nuts. At least the Bulls have built something with draft picks and salary cap space.
      After more than eight years on here, I finally figured out how to edit my time zone!

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      • nuckles2k2
        MVP
        • Sep 2006
        • 1922

        #2178
        Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

        Originally posted by brahmagoul
        I think this whole getting two max guys thing is overrated. Who cares if you have two max players, but not enough talent to go at least eight deep?

        Plus, Eddy Curry's contract isn't going to be enough to get them under the cap for a third max player next year. Sign and trade? Do the Knicks really have enough for a sign and trade next year? Way too many hypotheticals that really aren't that realistic.

        Anyone who'd go to New York over Chicago is nuts. At least the Bulls have built something with draft picks and salary cap space.
        Wilson Chandler has a qualifying offer on the books next year for a little over 3 mil, we don't have to extend that to him. Let him become a RFA and let him walk. Curry's 11 mil, plus Chandler's 3 mil, plus any of the one year vet minimum contracts that we don't renew, tacks on some more cap space. Draft well (we actually have a first round pick next year ) and I think we're good.

        That's $14+ mil between Curry and Chandler's contracts. And then whatever vet minimum contracts that we also let go.

        Whether we use that $14+ mil to somehow try to nab Melo, or get a few more solid players to add to the team, we're absolutely in a good position.

        It looks like no matter what we'll have our "Big 3" this year. The sniper (Gallo,) The Big (STAT,) and The Slasher (whoever we get, be it Parker, James, Wade, Ellis, etc.) I'm not seeing how that's a bad situation...that and a few solid role players seems to be the formula for success.

        $14 mil in guaranteed money to spend next year is huge. This isn't a "if we can trade Deng, or make some other moves" scenario. We absolutely, beyond the shadow of a doubt, have that money to spend via expiring contracts.

        And with the new CBA looming do we actually know what the length and value of a max contract will be? Might be a little too early to say whether we definitely would or wouldn't have enough for another max contract under a CBA that we really don't know too much about. Only thing that I do know is we'd have a minimum amount of moves to make to get at least $14 mil under the cap, and we'd potentially have STAT and another quality player already in place.

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        • Eman5805
          MVP
          • Mar 2009
          • 3545

          #2179
          Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread



          That is all.
          Last edited by Eman5805; 07-05-2010, 07:56 AM.

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          • bigfnjoe96
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 11410

            #2180
            Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

            72 Hours til contract signing....

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #2181
              Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

              Can we ban the next person that posts that on here again?

              OT: Which team is in the lead today as far as who will get Lebron? Is it New York's turn to be in the lead today since Chicago and New Jersey already had their turn?
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • Eman5805
                MVP
                • Mar 2009
                • 3545

                #2182
                Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                Can we ban the next person that posts that on here again?
                Phew. I'm safe then.

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                • Kashanova
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 12695

                  #2183
                  Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                  seriously i really hope lbj signs with the knicks so i can laugh at all the sources that said the knicks were out..

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                  • OSUFan_88
                    Outback Jesus
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 25642

                    #2184
                    Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                    Originally posted by Kashanova
                    seriously i really hope lbj signs with the knicks so i can laugh at all the sources that said the knicks were out..
                    Yeah, that had to be tough...
                    Too Old To Game Club

                    Urban Meyer is lol.

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                    • NYJets
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 18637

                      #2185
                      Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                      Originally posted by brahmagoul
                      I think this whole getting two max guys thing is overrated. Who cares if you have two max players, but not enough talent to go at least eight deep?

                      Plus, Eddy Curry's contract isn't going to be enough to get them under the cap for a third max player next year. Sign and trade? Do the Knicks really have enough for a sign and trade next year? Way too many hypotheticals that really aren't that realistic.

                      Anyone who'd go to New York over Chicago is nuts. At least the Bulls have built something with draft picks and salary cap space.
                      For the first part, because getting a 2nd top 10 player is much more difficult to do than getting a few role players.

                      2nd part, the $11 million or whatever it is might not be enough for a max, but that's going to get you a good player, or a couple good players. I don't get it, first you say the max player thing isn't important because of lack of depth, now it is?

                      3rd part, we've been through this a ton of times in this thread already, but I still say it depends what moves the teams make
                      Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                      The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #2186
                        Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                        Best endings to this whole thing for me:
                        1. He resigns with Cleveland, plunging New York into a deep depression
                        2. He signs with the Grizzlies(or some other random team), doing the same as the first ending only adding Cleveland to the emo party.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • nuckles2k2
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1922

                          #2187
                          Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                          Originally posted by jmood88
                          Best endings to this whole thing for me:
                          1. He resigns with Cleveland, plunging New York into a deep depression
                          2. He signs with the Grizzlies(or some other random team), doing the same as the first ending only adding Cleveland to the emo party.
                          What makes you think NYC will go into a deep depression of we don't get LeBron? There are a handful of players out there that you can throw into D'Antoni's system along side Gallo and Amar'e to make you go "holy ****."

                          I think the city will settle for a well put together team with or without LeBron. I'm hearing a lot of enthusiasm from people around here with just the possibility of getting STAT.

                          I even have a buddy that's kicking himself now because he declined the invite to join in and get some season tickets with us and recited that old (and now false) tag line of "why? the Knicks aren't getting anyone." Fast forward a couple of weeks and it's "man did you already get those seats?....**** it's looks like we're getting Amar'e and maybe someone else!!"

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                          • jmood88
                            Sean Payton: Retribution
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 34639

                            #2188
                            Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                            Originally posted by nuckles2k2
                            What makes you think NYC will go into a deep depression of we don't get LeBron? There are a handful of players out there that you can throw into D'Antoni's system along side Gallo and Amar'e to make you go "holy ****."

                            I think the city will settle for a well put together team with or without LeBron. I'm hearing a lot of enthusiasm from people around here with just the possibility of getting STAT.

                            I even have a buddy that's kicking himself now because he declined the invite to join in and get some season tickets with us and recited that old (and now false) tag line of "why? the Knicks aren't getting anyone." Fast forward a couple of weeks and it's "man did you already get those seats?....**** it's looks like we're getting Amar'e and maybe someone else!!"
                            I'm exaggerating but with the Knicks getting rid of pretty much everyone but the kid who cleans the sweat from the floors to get Lebron and the Nets being horrible but with their fans hoping that they can get him and turn things around, there are going to be a lot of disappointed people if he doesn't sign with a New York team.
                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                            • nuckles2k2
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1922

                              #2189
                              Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                              Originally posted by jmood88
                              I'm exaggerating but with the Knicks getting rid of pretty much everyone but the kid who cleans the sweat from the floors to get Lebron and the Nets being horrible but with their fans hoping that they can get him and turn things around, there are going to be a lot of disappointed people if he doesn't sign with a New York team.
                              But there's a difference between a casual fan who knows the big names that's disappointed because LeBron isn't in New York. Then there's the fan that wants the Knicks to put a good product on the court night in and night out, and also wants LeBron.

                              I want him to be on the Knicks as bad as the next guy, but if we get Amar'e, explore the sign and trades mentioned with the T'wolves and/or Warriors, and avoid losing Gallo...there's nothing to be devastated about. Especially if we have some $14 million to spend next year from Curry and Chandler's contracts.

                              If the Knicks are winning games next year without LeBron there will be some disappointment and people talking about "what coulda been" scenarios, but the main thing is the team is winning. And if the team is winning, there won't be any deep depression.

                              Edit: and we didn't get rid of everyone to get LeBron. We got rid of the bad contracts that Isiah burdened us with. HUGE difference. With those long term deals, and at the yearly salaries they were at, plus the player options to continue to rape the organization, we had no future...now we do. Despite all of the misconception by the media (not just the national, but also our own) going from one of the highest paid teams and paying the luxury tax for a team with zero all-stars and one 1st round exit in the playoffs in like 8 or 9 years, to having the most salary cap and $ to spend...is what this summer is all about.
                              Last edited by nuckles2k2; 07-05-2010, 12:30 PM.

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                              • jmood88
                                Sean Payton: Retribution
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 34639

                                #2190
                                Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

                                Originally posted by nuckles2k2
                                But there's a difference between a casual fan who knows the big names that's disappointed because LeBron isn't in New York. Then there's the fan that wants the Knicks to put a good product on the court night in and night out, and also wants LeBron.

                                I want him to be on the Knicks as bad as the next guy, but if we get Amar'e, explore the sign and trades mentioned with the T'wolves and/or Warriors, and avoid losing Gallo...there's nothing to be devastated about. Especially if we have some $14 million to spend next year from Curry and Chandler's contracts.

                                If the Knicks are winning games next year without LeBron there will be some disappointment and people talking about "what coulda been" scenarios, but the main thing is the team is winning. And if the team is winning, there won't be any deep depression.
                                The Knicks have gotten rid of anyone with a pulse, I don't know how you think if they lose out on Lebron but possibly get Amar'e that they will all of a sudden be a good team. There's a lot of stuff that needs to happens for the Knicks to be competitive.
                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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