The LeBron James Thread

[OSUFan_88]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I think Cleveland need to make these moves to keep LeBron not the other way around.

And I disagree.

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

And I disagree.

Really? You don't think that if the Cavs could get Bosh tomorrow that it wouldn't make LeBron want to stay more. To me and many others, this is the move that cements LeBron staying in Cleveland, and the reason he is most likely going to leave is because of the fact that they aren't doing anything, not because he doesn't know what they're going to do if he stays.

[PVarck31]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

Really? You don't think that if the Cavs could get Bosh tomorrow that it wouldn't make LeBron want to stay more. To me and many others, this is the move that cements LeBron staying in Cleveland, and the reason he is most likely going to leave is because of the fact that they aren't doing anything, not because he doesn't know what they're going to do if he stays.

I know 99% will disagree with this. Lebron is a different kinda of guy. I think it would help to get Bosh first for sure. But if they don't, its not going to factor into Lebron's decision as much as it would with other players.

[ZB9]

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Congratulations.

Dirk can score and grabs a lot of rebounds. On defensive rebounds, which are quite simpler to get mind you.

Yet, the measure of a real monster on the board does his work on the offensive glass. Curious how you left out that Dirk's lucky to grab two offensive boards because he spends all game shooting from the outside.

And you still can't say anything for what he can do on D, which is next to nothing.

lolol yea defensive boards are "easy to get" . They obviously arent important either. All they do is end the possession for the opponent. That statement tells me all I need to know about your lack of knowledge on this subject

Dirk isnt asked to be "a monster offensive rebounder". He is asked to carry the bulk of the scoring load....but you didnt specify offensive rebounds. You stated rebounds. The fact of the matter is that Dirk has been the best rebounder on consistently one of the best rebounding teams in the league over the past 10 seasons.

I'll never forget how many times I've seen David West eat Dirk up in the paint.

ha very rarely. I have watched every Mavs-Hornets game since West has been in the league. Therefore I know your statement is complete BS in reality. Dirk rarely even covers West on D. Nowitzki is on the Hornets centers most of the time. Most of West's points come from wet jumpers anyway.

btw, Dirk is a better defender than West, not that either of them are excellent defenders obviously

Dirk would be a true all time great if he were a 6'8" small forward. Too bad he's roughly 5 inches taller.

I don't care what offensive stats you throw at me, the #1 stat is rings. Of which Dirk has none.

lol obvious agenda is obvious

Anyways, I'd laugh hard if LeBron stays in Cleveland. Just to make all this fluff and posturing meaningless.

he probably will stay in Cleveland imo

[OSUFan_88]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

Really? You don't think that if the Cavs could get Bosh tomorrow that it wouldn't make LeBron want to stay more. To me and many others, this is the move that cements LeBron staying in Cleveland, and the reason he is most likely going to leave is because of the fact that they aren't doing anything, not because he doesn't know what they're going to do if he stays.

I'm saying that the Cavaliers are either going to be rebuilding or are going to be title contenders. Handicapping yourself one way or the other would be foolish.

As for:

he reason he is most likely going to leave is because of the fact that they aren't doing anything, not because he doesn't know what they're going to do if he stays.

The Cavaliers have already proven they can win with LeBron. They do not have to make a move to impress the Cavaliers. They can wait for LeBron then go for a big name that would really improve their team.

The Cavaliers do not need a lot. They need a 2nd scoring option. That's it. It's not like the Heat, Bulls and Knicks who still have to build a team. They are one piece away from winning multiple titles. The Heat, Bulls and Knicks are at least 2 years and more likely 4 years.

Oh well. I'm sure I'm going to be ridiculed for this because the Cavaliers roster "sucks" according to many on here.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

Have the Cavs met with any FAs outside of LeBron?

Same question with Miami. Have they met with any FAs outside of Bosh, Amare, Wade, LBJ?

[NYJets]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

The Heat, Bulls and Knicks are at least 2 years and more likely 4 years.

I would love to see how you came up with this.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I would love to see how you came up with this.

I would love to see you prove to me otherwise.

The Knicks have, maybe, 3 championship level players right now in Amar'e, Douglass and Gallo. The rest is garbage. Adding LeBron to that does not make you a title contender this year, next year or the year after.

The Bulls will have to trade Noah for Bosh. Otherwise, LeBron, Noah and Rose is not going to be enough for a few years. No shooters will hurt them significantly.

The Heat have no team. And the guys they have under contract are garbage.

[da ThRONe]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

The Cavaliers have already proven they can win with LeBron. They do not have to make a move to impress the Cavaliers. They can wait for LeBron then go for a big name that would really improve their team.

The Cavaliers do not need a lot. They need a 2nd scoring option. That's it. It's not like the Heat, Bulls and Knicks who still have to build a team. They are one piece away from winning multiple titles. The Heat, Bulls and Knicks are at least 2 years and more likely 4 years.

Oh well. I'm sure I'm going to be ridiculed for this because the Cavaliers roster "sucks" according to many on here.

I think Cleveland need another big time FA just as much as any of the teams courting LBJ. And to take it a step farther I think NYK with LeBron (now with Amare) is just as much a contender as the Cavs are with their roster with LeBron. Every year the Cavs have been going in the wrong direction. I think Scott is a slight step back from Brown so I don't see how the Cavs are much better off now than they were at the end of the season.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I think Cleveland need another big time FA just as much as any of the teams courting LBJ. And to take it a step farther I think NYK with LeBron (now with Amare) is just as much a contender as the Cavs are with their roster with LeBron.

I think you and I are too far apart to have a meaningful debate. There is absolutely no common ground in our arguments, so I'll just agree to disagree.

[da ThRONe]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I think you and I are too far apart to have a meaningful debate. There is absolutely no common ground in our arguments, so I'll just agree to disagree.

Agreed .

[NYJets]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

I would love to see you prove to me otherwise.

The Knicks have, maybe, 3 championship level players right now in Amar'e, Douglass and Gallo. The rest is garbage. Adding LeBron to that does not make you a title contender this year, next year or the year after.

The Bulls will have to trade Noah for Bosh. Otherwise, LeBron, Noah and Rose is not going to be enough for a few years. No shooters will hurt them significantly.

The Heat have no team. And the guys they have under contract are garbage.

4 years? Really?????

With the Knicks
You have Lebron, Stoudemire, Gallo, Chandler, Douglas. Eventually, whether by trade, or allowing Curry to expire, he's going to turn into either another really good player, or a couple of solid role players. That will give them 6-7 quality players. It is not going to take 4 years to find roster spots 8-12.

I don't know the other 2 teams as well specifically, but it should not take 4 years to build a team around 2 established superstars, one who is going to be an all time great. You would really have absolutely terrible luck with the draft and or injuries, or just not even try for it to take that long.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

4 years? Really?????

With the Knicks
You have Lebron, Stoudemire, Gallo, Chandler, Douglas. Eventually, whether by trade, or allowing Curry to expire, he's going to turn into either another really good player, or a couple of solid role players. That will give them 6-7 quality players. It is not going to take 4 years to find roster spots 8-12.

I don't know the other 2 teams as well specifically, but it should not take 4 years to build a team around 2 established superstars, one who is going to be an all time great. You would really have absolutely terrible luck with the draft and or injuries, or just not even try for it to take that long.

I don't know why you are arguing with me, we are saying the same thing.

2-4 years. However, the Cavaliers start tomorrow and can be title contenders.

[bigeastbumrush]

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I don't know why you are arguing with me, we are saying the same thing.

2-4 years. However, the Cavaliers start tomorrow and can be title contenders.

With who?

[OSUFan_88]

Re: The Official "Where is LeBron going?" Thread

With who?

Mo, Jamison, Andy, Moon, Parker, Hickson, and Powe. That's better than anything that any team can put out right now. Top might not be as good, but there is certainly more depth.

And that is assuming the Cavaliers make no moves which has about a .00000000001 chance of happening.