The LeBron James Thread

**jeebs9** · 10-27-2010, 10:03 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by OSUFan_88

I want to make this very clear:

Neither Brown or Erik are running that offense, no matter what they say in public.

So, yeah, basically Wade will be Mo and Bosh will be Z/Andy. And when it comes to the playoffs, they'll get destroyed by a team that plays defense because they know how to stop that offense *hint: BOSTON CELTICS*

What are you talking about?.....SMH... It's very scary these forums.
Anyone one here watch the game?

But last night as LeBron brought the ball up. I saw Erik call severally plays. So you don't know what your talking about.....

**sportyguyfl31** · 10-27-2010, 10:04 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

I said it a while back, but I dont think this team wins a title this year.

I just dont think you can win a title with 3 players, and hot garbage, as far as the eye can see.

Sooner or later, they are going to play a 7 game series against a team that is smart enough to collapse the paint, and dare Wade and Lebron to shoot 18-20 foot jumpers.

Wade can do that. With Lebron, it depends on the night.

Plus, Chris Bosh has 'Vanish in the first big time games of my life" written all over him.

That man has kool-aid in his blood, and will treat the ball like a live hand grenade in a tight spot. Mark my words.

**jeebs9** · 10-27-2010, 10:05 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by OSUFan_88

LeBron has no post moves, be it a go to move or a few moves, LeBron needs a post game of some sort. The fact he doesn't after 7 years is pathetic.

You sound very immature my friend. Very very immature. I didn't want to bring their names up. But Jordan didn't have a post-up game until later in his career. Kobe had a little post up game. But in the last few years. You've see him using it a lot more then before.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-27-2010, 10:08 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by jeebs9

What are you talking about?.....SMH... It's very scary these forums.
Anyone one here watch the game?

But last night as LeBron brought the ball up. I saw Erik call severally plays. So you don't know what your talking about.....

Whatever you say.

I've seen this several times before. And I know what I'm talking about, and you are going to enjoy LeIso for several years to come.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-27-2010, 10:10 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by jeebs9

You sound very immature my friend. Very very immature. I didn't want to bring their names up. But Jordan didn't have a post-up game until later in his career. Kobe had a little post up game. But in the last few years. You've see him using it a lot more then before.

First off, how do I come off as immature? Because I disagree with you?

Jordan had a post game when he needed one. Kobe has always been very good in the post, especially after Shaq left LA.

LeBron still looks like a high schooler in the post. Does that opinion make me immature? I don't know, but that's what he looks like.

**Dice** · 10-27-2010, 10:11 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Do you really want LeBron in the post?

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**jeebs9** · 10-27-2010, 10:11 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

^^Exit^^

I'll come back later...

**OSUFan_88** · 10-27-2010, 10:14 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by Dice

Do you really want LeBron in the post?

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No.

I want him to learn some post moves so he can be effective in the post. If he doesn't learn post moves, then putting him in the post is stupid.

**NovaStar** · 10-27-2010, 10:22 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by Cebby

You realize that Shaq did literally the exact same thing as Lebron, right?

He left a very good, but far from championship team to go to the most desirable location in the NBA. That's what Lebron did but instead going to the second most desirable location in the NBA.

And as said, there are a ton of greats who aren't tied to one team. Barry Bonds, Kareem, Shaq, Randy Moss, Drew Brees, Barkley, ARod, Wilt, etc.

Oh yeah, and some guy named Babe Ruth.

Hell, the only player you listed who didn't leave his original team was Jeter.

What?! Shaq was driven out of LA by Kobe. Dr. Buss was forced to make a decision between the two, there was no Shaq leaving a team because he feels he can"t shoulder the load, he had already won 3 rings!! Lebron has not won anything. There is no comparison between the two.

Also, my point concerning Montana and the others was that although they had been moved to other teams, they are tied to a legacy with the teams they had WON with. This does not apply to the people you mention. Barry Bonds has not won anything, Brees had not won before coming to NO, Randy Moss has not won anything, and on down the line. Shaq has won 3 rings with the Lakers, so I say his legacy is tied to the lakers because he had the most success there, who do you think he will go in the Hall of Fame as? I predict a Laker. Same with Kareem.

Currently, D-Wades Legacy is tied to the Heat, currently lebron has not legacy (other than losing) nor a team to tie one to.

**NC State-31 UNC-27** · 10-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

LeBron is a great individual player...

whether or not he actually can take a team with other good players and make that team better....is yet to be seen honestly. We'll know after this season.

At this point I think I would rather have Rondo as the final piece on a team thats already decent.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-27-2010, 10:26 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by NovaStar

What?! Shaq was driven out of LA by Kobe. Dr. Buss was forced to make a decision between the two, there was no Shaq leaving a team because he feels he can"t shoulder the load, he had already won 3 rings!! Lebron has not won anything. There is no comparison between the two.

uh...He meant from Orlando to LA.

And they are both very similar situations. LeBron left a crappier city and went to a Paradise.

Although, I think Shaq was more dominating than LeBron ever will be, and that has not to do with talent and everything to do with who could guard Shaq *aka no one.*

**Pared** · 10-27-2010, 10:27 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by NovaStar

Currently, D-Wades Legacy is tied to the Heat, currently lebron has not legacy (other than losing) nor a team to tie one to.

The part that I bolded isn't fair though, IMO.

So any superstar that is good enough to make the HOF now considered a loser if they didn't win a chip?

**NovaStar** · 10-27-2010, 10:34 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by jeebs9

You telling me. It's funny because last night I was on the phone with my friend. And he was like "If anyone is still harping about LeBron James and what he did..they are just plain bitter."....I started to laugh out loud. I thought of Novstar lol

LOl! Thats funny. I am not bitter!! I just hate lebron! lol.

**King_B_Mack** · 10-27-2010, 10:35 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by Pared

The part that I bolded isn't fair though, IMO.

So any superstar that is good enough to make the HOF now considered a loser if they didn't win a chip?

Good point. I'd also say that right now, LeBron's legacy is tied to the Cavs. His legacy isn't finished being written yet obviously, but as of right now, it's with the Cavs.

**Armor and Sword** · 10-27-2010, 10:36 AM

Re: The LeBron James Saga

Originally posted by Pared

The part that I bolded isn't fair though, IMO.

So any superstar that is good enough to make the HOF now considered a loser if they didn't win a chip?

I agree. I am so tired of that argument in team sports. It is a team game.

One guy can't do it all. Perfect example:

Michael Jordan.

Really it is such a simpleton argument. It is not even worth wasting breath defending it.

If it was a case of Lebron took the last shot in game 7 and choked...yeah blame him for not winning a title. But there are amazing players who play their entire career and never sniff a ring. And it is not because they were not good enough. It is just the way the cards fell. We can make a laundry list of great HOF players across many sports who never won a title.

Rings are overrated and should not be the ultimate judge of how good a player is or was. It is a measure of how great a team was or is.

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