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  • brahmagoul
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 1860

    #10141
    Re: The LeBron James Thread

    I'm sticking with my theory on LeBron and Wade just aren't a good fit together. LeBron's lack of production in the finals has more to do with that than anything. You could see it when they played on Team USA, and you can see it now.

    However, I will say this, too: LeBron's lost a little of that fire since his first MVP season. In Miami, though, I didn't see that lift and explosiveness as consistently as in Cleveland. Part of me thinks that will return because this year was probably the most mentally draining of his life.
    Last edited by brahmagoul; 06-20-2011, 02:47 PM. Reason: grammar
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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #10142
      Re: The LeBron James Thread

      Originally posted by 1Rose
      And the talking in circles continues...

      This thread is like a soap opera, you could miss out on like 300 posts and still know exactly what's going on.
      Wow and you picked all this up in less than one month!
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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #10143
        Re: The LeBron James Thread

        Originally posted by brahmagoul
        I'm sticking with my theory on LeBron and Wade just aren't a good fit together. LeBron's lack of production in the finals has more to do with that than anything. You could see it when they played on Team USA, and you can see it now.

        However, I will say this, too: LeBron's lost a little of that fire since his first MVP season. In Miami, though, I didn't see that lift and explosiveness as consistently as in Cleveland. Part of me thinks that will return because this year was probably the most mentally draining of his life.
        How could they not be a good fit? Especially after these playoffs?..... I really don't get when peole say that. I'll say it again. They beat teams that swept them during the regular season. They made it to the Finals. And were up 1-0 and then 2-1. With great chances of closing out the series after both times (game 2 and 4).
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        • celg35
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 1329

          #10144
          Re: The LeBron James Thread

          Interesting point by one of the previous posts. As good of a season as Lebron had......how mentally tough was this guy.........I would say he was as mentally tough as any player I have ever seen. To be under the microscope and scrutinized day and night all season, has got to be draining. How many other players in NBA history have had that much pressure in a season?

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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #10145
            Re: The LeBron James Thread

            Jordan....
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            • Drewski
              Basketball Reasons
              • Jun 2011
              • 3783

              #10146
              Re: The LeBron James Thread

              Pressure wise, I'm sure there are tons of guys out there who have dealt with that level of pressure. Easy point in case is Kobe before he got his first ring without Shaq.

              As far as coverage though, I don't think anyone had even been as closely covered and scrutinized as much as Lebron. Not to say it isn't brought upon by his own self, but still.
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              • HMcCoy
                All Star
                • Jan 2003
                • 8212

                #10147
                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                Originally posted by jeebs9
                I don't know you say it was both ways. The Bulls and Celtics played him straight up most of the times. Rarely did you see them double LeBron to get the ball out of his hands. Dallas pulled this move severally times after game 2.
                They didn't double LeBron in that game 4. He just didn't attack off screens. He would turn the corner and just stop and pass it back to the middle. In any other case Lebron would have went straight to the basket when Bosh set the screen since the only physical defensive presence (Chandler) would be 25 feet from the basket on the show.
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                • celg35
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1329

                  #10148
                  Re: The LeBron James Thread

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  Jordan....
                  I don't know if Jordan was hated as much, but yes he too had a lit of pressure. It was also in a time where there was no Internet, tweeting, facebook , camera phones, etc . On that note ,I still gave lebron an A for handling it the way he did
                  Last edited by celg35; 06-20-2011, 06:38 PM.

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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #10149
                    Re: The LeBron James Thread

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    Jordan....
                    LBJ is dealing with an entire different beast. Social networking and the media today is a lot tougher to deal with compared to 15 years ago. You just can't escape

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #10150
                      Re: The LeBron James Thread

                      Originally posted by brahmagoul
                      I'm sticking with my theory on LeBron and Wade just aren't a good fit together. LeBron's lack of production in the finals has more to do with that than anything. You could see it when they played on Team USA, and you can see it now.

                      However, I will say this, too: LeBron's lost a little of that fire since his first MVP season. In Miami, though, I didn't see that lift and explosiveness as consistently as in Cleveland. Part of me thinks that will return because this year was probably the most mentally draining of his life.
                      Like jeebs said, they're a fine fit. A good fit. You don't make the finals and not have a good fit. That really doesn't make any sense at all to say they're not a good fit.

                      LeBron's lack of production in the finals? Did you happen to tune into their playoff run before the finals?

                      How about we give them a few more years before we say it's a bad fit. How about we let them fill out the roster a bit, and get a few more quality role players.

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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #10151
                        Re: The LeBron James Thread

                        Originally posted by HMcCoy
                        They didn't double LeBron in that game 4. He just didn't attack off screens. He would turn the corner and just stop and pass it back to the middle. In any other case Lebron would have went straight to the basket when Bosh set the screen since the only physical defensive presence (Chandler) would be 25 feet from the basket on the show.
                        Re-watch the game brother... LeBron gets double teamed severally times. I really just don't have time to make this video (sucks!!). Doubles teams I'm talking about are the ones Where as soon as he touches and holds the ball. They come asap to get the ball out of his hands. Happen severally times.
                        Last edited by jeebs9; 06-21-2011, 07:21 AM.
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                          • Mar 2006
                          • 20857

                          #10152
                          Re: The LeBron James Thread

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                          • WTF
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20274

                            #10153
                            Re: The LeBron James Thread

                            I've seen it before, but still think it's hilarious.
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                            • slimm44
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 3253

                              #10154
                              Re: The LeBron James Thread

                              Originally posted by celg35
                              Interesting point by one of the previous posts. As good of a season as Lebron had......how mentally tough was this guy.........I would say he was as mentally tough as any player I have ever seen. To be under the microscope and scrutinized day and night all season, has got to be draining. How many other players in NBA history have had that much pressure in a season?
                              Kobe in 03-04 with the rape allegations. I'm pretty sure that trumps LBJ's situation.

                              I would dare to say Jordan's first season back after retirement was tough, because wasn't that his first full season after his pops was killed? I know they won the chip, but I can't remember if that was the first full season after his dad died.
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                              • cubsball899
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 1744

                                #10155
                                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                                well in the Chicago series, Lebron was going off and Wade was playing terribly. in the Dallas series it was Wade playing well and Lebron playing terribly. they got to the finals on pure talent... but they fell short because there is way too much overlap in their games so that its very difficult for both of them to be going off at the same time. they will probably win championships without being a good fit because of how supremely talented they are... but that doesn't mean they are maximizing their collective ability.

                                its like the team is less than the sum of the parts, but the sum of the parts is still that much better than pretty much everyone else.

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