Carmelo Anthony Traded To New York

[ffaacc03]

Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

QFT.

I'm all for trading for Melo but if it means we have gut the core of our roster to get him, then I'd rather wait and just let these young dudes develop.

And the lineup posted a few posts up would get destroyed by Miami, Boston and probably Orlando since we'd have no bench at all. Good lineup for a 1st Rd Series win but after that you can toss it out the window.

Then again, for a 12 W team that would be a "huge" improvement ... or did you all think that as of now this team is good enough for more than a lucky 8th seed playoff run with a sure 1st round exit ?

There is more than what meets the eyes ... NJ had the money (cap space), the coach (Avery already signed), the owenership (also, already accredited), the "promise" of a new arena in Brooklin and the "so called incredible" nucleous of promising youngs and ... couldnt do something of impact in this FA.

With a player like Melo on board, secured with an extension of course, they could really appeal to other stars and superstars players ... like ... Paul, in 2 years. Also, after such trade, NJ would still have plenty of cap space to be more than relevant in the nexts FAs.

Sometimes teams/fans overvaluate their assets and that blinds them and negates themself from realizing that we are talking about a franchise player who happens to be in his mid tweenties which still gives him room for improving even more.

Anyways, I still think DAL has a real chance (maybe the most realistic and perhaps the better) to land him thus I would love to see him in NJ.

[J-Clutch1]

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Then again, for a 12 W team that would be a "huge" improvement ... or did you all think that as of now this team is good enough for more than a lucky 8th seed playoff run with a sure 1st round exit ?

There is more than what meets the eyes ... NJ had the money (cap space), the coach (Avery already signed), the owenership (also, already accredited), the "promise" of a new arena in Brooklin and the "so called incredible" nucleous of promising youngs and ... couldnt do something of impact in this FA.

With a player like Melo on board, secured with an extension of course, they could really appeal to other stars and superstars players ... like ... Paul, in 2 years. Also, after such trade, NJ would still have plenty of cap space to be more than relevant in the nexts FAs.

Sometimes teams/fans overvaluate their assets and that blinds them and negates themself from realizing that we are talking about a franchise player who happens to be in his mid tweenties which still gives him room for improving even more.

Anyways, I still think DAL has a real chance (maybe the most realistic and perhaps the better) to land him.

I agree with your points.

For me, I just want Lopez and Favors and Terrence Williams to be part of this team's future, along with Melo. The other guys on this team I could live with trading for Melo.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I'm assuming we'd have to take back Billups as well since having a PG rotation of Harris, Billups and Lawson wouldn't make much sense and if that's the case I'll pass.

[Stumbleweed]

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Actually that's a SICK guard rotation and makes a ton of sense if the Nugs want to keep Chauncey around and prolong his career. Having Harris (who is capable of playing SG as well, just like Chauncey) around would allow Chauncey to work off the ball and rest a bit more. I would love having those three guys on the team splitting minutes with Afflalo in the backcourt. Very good defensive unit, VERY fast Chauncey is the slowest obviously), and all able to score/pass/shoot. I'd take that deal if I were the Nugs, depending on what the picks are.

What picks do the Nets have? Anything they got from other teams, or just their own?

[J-Clutch1]

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I'm assuming we'd have to take back Billups as well since having a PG rotation of Harris, Billups and Lawson wouldn't make much sense and if that's the case I'll pass.

No, if Billups is included, the salaries wouldn't match.

[J-Clutch1]

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Actually that's a SICK Pg rotation and makes a ton of sense if the Nugs want to keep Chauncey around and prolong his career. Having Harris (who is capable of playing SG as well, just like Chauncey) around would allow Chauncey to work off the ball and rest a bit more. I would love having those three guys on the team splitting minutes with Afflalo in the backcourt.

What picks do the Nets have? Anything they got from other teams, or just their own?

The Nets have the most picks of any team over the next 3 years. They have a total of 10, which includes their own picks and picks from other teams through trades.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

Then again, for a 12 W team that would be a "huge" improvement ... or did you all think that as of now this team is good enough for more than a lucky 8th seed playoff run with a sure 1st round exit ?

There is more than what meets the eyes ... NJ had the money (cap space), the coach (Avery already signed), the owenership (also, already accredited), the "promise" of a new arena in Brooklin and the "so called incredible" nucleous of promising youngs and ... couldnt do something of impact in this FA.

With a player like Melo on board, secured with an extension of course, they could really appeal to other stars and superstars players ... like ... Paul, in 2 years. Also, after such trade, NJ would still have plenty of cap space to be more than relevant in the nexts FAs.

Sometimes teams/fans overvaluate their assets and that blinds them and negates themself from realizing that we are talking about a franchise player who happens to be in his mid tweenties which still gives him room for improving even more.

Anyways, I still think DAL has a real chance (maybe the most realistic and perhaps the better) to land him thus I would love to see him in NJ.

1. It would definitely be a huge improvement. But again, if we have to gut half our roster to get him then he's better off just staying in Denver because the team he'd be going to won't be any better than the team he's already on.

2. Yea all of that sounds good but one thing: All of that doesn't take away from the fact that we still went 12-70 last year. And I think alot of people(myself included)have or are underestimating the impact that had on us this offseason as far as getting players to come here.

3. We'd really wouldn't have much cap space(depending on the CBA of course)since we'd have to give Melo an extension and then you already know we'd have give Lopez an extension(rightfully so)and still have enough to put some other pieces around them. As for CP3, he'd be just another pipe dream for us to think about just like we did with Lebron for the past 4-5 years.

4. Going 12-70 does that to some people.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Actually that's a SICK guard rotation and makes a ton of sense if the Nugs want to keep Chauncey around and prolong his career. Having Harris (who is capable of playing SG as well, just like Chauncey) around would allow Chauncey to work off the ball and rest a bit more. I would love having those three guys on the team splitting minutes with Afflalo in the backcourt. Very good defensive unit, VERY fast Chauncey is the slowest obviously), and all able to score/pass/shoot. I'd take that deal if I were the Nugs, depending on what the picks are.

What picks do the Nets have? Anything they got from other teams, or just their own?

We have our own picks(except for the Warriors protected pick in 2012)but other than that we have 10 picks total over the next 3 years(not the 2019 Draft like the "other team" has)and no other team has more than us.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Just seen on the NetsDaily Forum that the KatStacks chick has filed a police report against Melo, according to her Twitter. Is that true or just some BS she's throwing out there?

[Stumbleweed]

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Hmm, that's cool they have so many picks to give us... I'm mainly hoping for a Top 3 next year (I wish they had Minnesota's #1 like the Clips do). The Nuggets haven't had a decent draft pick actually make an impact on the team since Melo (aside from trading up to get Lawson last year). It would be awesome to get an impact player in the draft (Harrison Barnes!) and actually be able to rebuild with a young core including Lawson, Favors, and Draft Pick X.

I just want a genuine rebuilding effort if they go that route, not a half-assed one that keeps us in playoff purgatory and keeps a bunch of veteran players hanging around hating their lives. Ship out K-Mart or just let him walk to open up the space, work on something for Chauncey unless he's willing to just keep playing in his hometown (for less $ after next year) on a young team... honestly though, I'd almost rather have Ty Lawson running the team already, kid's a beast.

[ffaacc03]

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If DEN is really in rebuilding mode and if they are trying to cut ties with Chauncy, then this trade might happen:

- NJ gets: Carmelo (DEN)
They get a true franchise type player. Thus they give away their promising rookies and valuable picks.

- CHA gets: Chauncey (DEN)
A very welcomed reunion with Brown and a outstanding piece to solidify the teams intention to get back to playoffs. Thus they give away their cap flexibility.

- DEN gets: Harris & Favors & Jones & Ross & 3 future 1st picks (NJ) + Dampier & pick (CHA)
They get a really good group of promising youngs and valuable first picks, along with a veteran C who could make the frontcourt rotation or who could be just dropped off with no compensation, granting them over $13 mill in instant cap relief.

[Cebby]

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if they are trying to cut ties with Chauncy

1. Why would Denver want to "cut ties" with their hometown hero on an expiring contract?

2. If they did want to move him, waiting until the deadline to move a clutch veteran who is also expiring would bring in a hell of a lot more.

[domidomdomz]

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Looks like Nuggets's FO is still holding on to the chance of getting Melo back.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5516483

[dossier]

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Looks like the Nets arn't trading lopez:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17216

*sigh of relief*

[ffaacc03]

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1. Why would Denver want to "cut ties" with their hometown hero on an expiring contract?

2. If they did want to move him, waiting until the deadline to move a clutch veteran who is also expiring would bring in a hell of a lot more.

Not my call, but the rumors are there and if that trade does happens, he would be a 6th man backup hero with an enormous contract ... and he still has another year after this one in his contract for over $14 mill. Then again, I agree, they can get more from him but its a matter of what direction the team wants.