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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #136
    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

    Oh and to get this back on the subject of Melo, trade talks(as if there were really any at all)are pretty much dead at this point until the Nuggets FO know for sure that Melo wants to go and they here it from HIS mouth.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • Kashanova
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 12695

      #137
      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

      I feel out of the three situations Kobe is definitely the worst. Signing a new long term contract to have the team built around you and crying and asking for a trade when it doesn't go your way. Melo isn't as bad he's just saying he won't resign with the team and if they want to get some talent for him they can do that. Lebron finished his contract and didn't cry or moan during his tenure there.

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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #138
        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

        The Nuggets haven't yet placed All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony on the trade block.

        ESPN.com's Marc Stein is reporting that Denver is not close to trading Anthony.

        "That status could certainly change before NBA teams open training camps later this month, should [general manager Masai] Ujiri prove unsuccessful in his forthcoming attempt(s) to convince Anthony to sign the three-year, $65 million contract extension that the Nuggets, right around the June draft, believed Melo was on the verge of accepting," Stein wrote.

        Teams have certainly called the Nuggets about Anthony, but Denver hasn't been listening to offers.

        Via Marc Stein/ESPN.com
        Good news for the Knicks' slim chances.
        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #139
          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

          Originally posted by wwharton
          I think the "Huh?" was about how you read Jeebs9's post... and I think your last reply shows you see that's what he was getting at.

          As for the other part, you're both on the same side of disagreeing with jeebs9... no need to argue the details to the extent of turning this into yet another Lebron thread. Unless you haven't already made the same points in one of the many Lebron threads (not likely).



          That's what I meant. The situations are different (imo too), jeebs9 is saying they're not. We can all stand together against him.
          Exactly... everyone is going crazy because I believe that the situations are the same.

          There is even "out of no where" post about the "obvious"...Man doesn't even play in the NBA and he talking about the obvious...lol You ever played the game of telephone?...**** gets ****ed up by the time we get it.

          But its still the same situation to me. If you cut away from the BS. And just thinking about each players situation. Where their teams stood in the league.
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          • Cebby
            Banned
            • Apr 2005
            • 22327

            #140
            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

            Originally posted by jeebs9
            But its still the same situation to me. If you cut away from the BS. And just thinking about each players situation. Where their teams stood in the league.
            So it appears that the concept of a contract is what eludes you.

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #141
              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

              Yea I don't care about contracts when your a superstar and have to worry about your legacy in the long run. If a superstar wants out. He will eventually get his way. That's why its not really a life binding contract. "Contracts can be broken."

              LeBron situation...Best record during the regular season the last 2 years (not to mention back to back MVP's). Lost in Eastern Conference. Then the year after lost in the second round (to Celtics). Even with added players nothing changed. And it seem nothing was going to change either (roster wise).

              Carmelo situation...Been to playoffs every year he been in the league. 2009 made it to the Western Conference and lost. This year make it to the playoffs as usually. But get knocked out in the first round.

              Kobe situation...after losing the finals to Detroit. Miss the playoffs the year after (I think). Then had 2 straight year of making the playoffs 8 and 7 seed. And losing to the PHX in the first round both times.

              Superstars losing and want to make a change. Same situation to me.
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              • ffaacc03
                MVP
                • Oct 2008
                • 3487

                #142
                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                Originally posted by jeebs9
                Yea I don't care about contracts when your a superstar and have to worry about your legacy in the long run. If a superstar wants out. He will eventually get his way. That's why its not really a life binding contract. "Contracts can be broken."

                LeBron situation...Best record during the regular season the last 2 years (not to mention back to back MVP's). Lost in Eastern Conference. Then the year after lost in the second round (to Celtics). Even with added players nothing changed. And it seem nothing was going to change either (roster wise).

                Carmelo situation...Been to playoffs every year he been in the league. 2009 made it to the Western Conference and lost. This year make it to the playoffs as usually. But get knocked out in the first round.

                Kobe situation...after losing the finals to Detroit. Miss the playoffs the year after (I think). Then had 2 straight year of making the playoffs 8 and 7 seed. And losing to the PHX in the first round both times.

                Superstars losing and want to make a change. Same situation to me.
                Then we partially agree but I have to say that, from all the many factors that incide in each case (more than plenty), you just focused on the sole (perhaps) that is commum ... then again, "all" players, superstars or not, "want" to win.

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                • Bondgirl0072
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1138

                  #143
                  Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                  I believe that Carmelo will end up with the Knicks.

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #144
                    Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                    Jeebs you're not really getting it brotha.

                    You have one player who left after his contract was fulfilled, and another who still has a year left asking for a trade before the season has started.

                    Come on man.

                    Hahaha.

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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #145
                      Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                      Originally posted by ffaacc03
                      Then we partially agree but I have to say that, from all the many factors that incide in each case (more than plenty), you just focused on the sole (perhaps) that is commum ... then again, "all" players, superstars or not, "want" to win.
                      Your right all players want to win. But the players who have more control (or they are able to get away with something or break contracts) are usually the superstars. They have the Owner's and GM's by their balls.

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Jeebs you're not really getting it brotha.

                      You have one player who left after his contract was fulfilled, and another who still has a year left asking for a trade before the season has started.

                      Come on man.

                      Hahaha.
                      I said already lol.....Cut through all the BS and Baby fat.
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                      • JBH3
                        Marvel's Finest
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 13506

                        #146
                        Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                        I really got no problem w/ Anthony doing what he is doing right now. Time is a precious resource that in his world you cannot get back. He I guess feels he has done as much for the Nuggets as he could w/ what is around him, and I guess would rather not waste time from his career in a situation he otherwise feels won't bring him a championship. I mean is the issue that he doesn't want to live in the mountains, doesn't want his kids going to Denver schools, hates being on mountain time? No. Dude wants to go where he feels he can win.

                        For everything we expect a contract to be, its sole function is to outline pay terms. Having a contract w/ a team doesn't prohibit a player from seeking a trade. I know I'd like to control my own destiny if I was a superstar in the NBA, and not have it decided on who has enough cap room to sign me.
                        Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                        All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #147
                          Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                          Originally posted by JBH3
                          I really got no problem w/ Anthony doing what he is doing right now. Time is a precious resource that in his world you cannot get back. He I guess feels he has done as much for the Nuggets as he could w/ what is around him, and I guess would rather not waste time from his career in a situation he otherwise feels won't bring him a championship. I mean is the issue that he doesn't want to live in the mountains, doesn't want his kids going to Denver schools, hates being on mountain time? No. Dude wants to go where he feels he can win.

                          For everything we expect a contract to be, its sole function is to outline pay terms. Having a contract w/ a team doesn't prohibit a player from seeking a trade. I know I'd like to control my own destiny if I was a superstar in the NBA, and not have it decided on who has enough cap room to sign me.
                          QFT!!!

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                          • wwharton
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26949

                            #148
                            Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                            Originally posted by JBH3
                            I really got no problem w/ Anthony doing what he is doing right now. Time is a precious resource that in his world you cannot get back. He I guess feels he has done as much for the Nuggets as he could w/ what is around him, and I guess would rather not waste time from his career in a situation he otherwise feels won't bring him a championship. I mean is the issue that he doesn't want to live in the mountains, doesn't want his kids going to Denver schools, hates being on mountain time? No. Dude wants to go where he feels he can win.
                            Honestly, in so many words, I think that is part of the issue. I guess ironically that's the part of the issue I have the LEAST amount of a problem with. An argument can be made that he should play out his contract if those are his only concerns but I don't think that's a big deal really. But he clearly wants to be in the NYC area as well as his new wife. I think that plays a bigger roll than you think. Now if he ends up in Houston we can throw that out the window.

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                            • dossier
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 2272

                              #149
                              Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                              What happened to players winning in their original teams?

                              I for one am kinda sick of players "wanting to win" and signing with teams who end up always being good.

                              there needs to be a hard cap. Lets see how much less anybody really would take to be on a superstar squad

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #150
                                Re: The Carmelo Anthony Saga

                                Originally posted by dossier
                                What happened to players winning in their original teams?

                                I for one am kinda sick of players "wanting to win" and signing with teams who end up always being good.

                                there needs to be a hard cap. Lets see how much less anybody really would take to be on a superstar squad
                                First off, concerning Melo, I have no clue as to why he would want to leave so bad. He has a talented team around him, with some movable parts, and a willing front office.

                                As for your post, when we talk about the all-time greats: Magic, Isaiah, Larry, West, MJ, Stockton, Malone, etc. etc. who have stayed primarily with one team, I guess you along with many others conveniently ignore the fact that they were all surrounded by HOF talent.

                                I laugh every time I hear posts like yours.

                                "OMG this new age is so wack, they would have never done that in the past" blah blah blah blah blah blah

                                If you want to win championships, you can't just do it on your own. Simple fact.

                                Things might be different if LeBron, CP3 of any of these guys were gifted another superstar via free agency/draft/trade. Not every superstar is gifted a Pau Gasol.

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