The Dwight Howard Thread

[Dice]

Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

Hard to recruit somebody if you're not going to be there, is it not? So therefore, they'd really have nothing to cry about at all.

Rose cares about winning games(as far as we know) and Duhwight cares about being a "global icon" or whatever and if he happens to win games then he'll take that as well. That's all it's basically been throughout this.

Don't forget, if he doesn't go to the Nets you know he's gonna try to talk Deron Williams to come join him in Dallas. So he can still recruit, it may not be for the Magic.

But as I stated, why even put that pressure on yourself? LeBron and the Heat took a beating last year in terms of their image. And I can't imagine what it's gonna be like if the Heat fail to win the championship this year.

[BringTheHeat]

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As for Mr. Howard, he needs to stop being a damn girl and speak his damn mind on what he wants to do.

The Decision, Part 2! Nah..just kidding. Agree with this completely though, man up and make a choice.

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Re: Could Dwight Be Playing Somewhere Else Next Season?

I think Dwight wants to be in ORL and tried to pull a kobe but he's too nice to throw everybody under the bus like that and it backfired on him so he's going back and forth...might've thought about a couple of other cities and possibilities but he does like the idea of ORL, warm weather and being the #1 guy on a contending team

[ProfessaPackMan]

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According to Otis Smith, "Nothing has changed".

[Dice]

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I'd be surprised if anything changes. Dwight is gonna play out the season in Orlando and just walk.

[dramachild11]

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I dont see the logic of letting there be any possible chance that dwight walks away an u get nothing in return that just doesnt make sense.. i believe he is the best player at his position in the nba so your not gonna get equal value for him in any deal, so you grab players who maybe arent stars but can be integral pices of a championship team (because even though they are 3rd in the east right now is there anyone out there who thinks they can win a title as presently built?) an with this years draft expected to be deep u can get multiple picks as well, at least this way you make the playoffs this year an next year you dont really have to blow up the team to rebuild cause you have the pieces in place to be competitive right away

[bakesalee]

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I'm tired of hearing anything about Dwight Howard. He probably loves all this talk about "where will he go" because this is the peak of the attention he craves.

Dude's not going to accomplish anything without another superstar.

[Dice]

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It would probably be in Orlando’s best interest to just play it out for the rest of the year. Dwight will be entering free agency, something he’s never seen in his NBA career. And now he’s got to make the most crucial choice of his career. He leaves Orlando, he’ll be paid about $30 million less due to the fact that in the CBA the Magic can offer him the most money. So is he really gonna walk away from an extra $30 million? And if he does go to the Nets, Mavs or Lakers what will be the motivating factor for him to walk away from so much money? Is it the weather? That can’t be the case if the Nets is on his list. Will it be marketing? Not much opportunity in Dallas unless you’re playing for the Cowboys. Is it winning? Well, any of those teams would guarantee them a winning season BUT he can do that in Orlando as well. Is it championships? No team is guaranteed that, ask LeBron.

I feel all the pressure is on Dwight and little is on the Magic. If they wanted to, they could just loose Dwight, tank the season get a high draft pick and save the cap space for the 2013 free agency period where Chris Paul might possibly be available.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Oh I'd love for it to get to FA, especially since it means I can keep everyone else and not have to give up nothing to get him.

[King_B_Mack]

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I dont see the logic of letting there be any possible chance that dwight walks away an u get nothing in return that just doesnt make sense.. i believe he is the best player at his position in the nba so your not gonna get equal value for him in any deal, so you grab players who maybe arent stars but can be integral pices of a championship team (because even though they are 3rd in the east right now is there anyone out there who thinks they can win a title as presently built?) an with this years draft expected to be deep u can get multiple picks as well, at least this way you make the playoffs this year an next year you dont really have to blow up the team to rebuild cause you have the pieces in place to be competitive right away

The more I see this argument, the more it makes it clear to me that Jerry West's line of thinking is the way to go. What you're suggesting makes no sense. This mantra that the media has drilled into guys head about not losing guys for nothing has gotten old. You just said yourself, you're not getting equal value for Dwight for any trade, so why would you take back guys that aren't going to win you a title? You call Dwight on his bluff, if he's willing to walk away from you and the money he can make staying, then so be it. You let him walk and clear the cap space for the following year and immediately start rebuilding your franchise with the pieces and players YOU choose and really want. It's a waste of yours and fans time to take back whatever just to say you got something when nine times out of ten, those pieces don't stay with you anyway. What do you get draft picks that wind up being mid to late first round picks because the guy you just traded ensures that those picks won't be lottery picks? Make them choose between they're money and they're brand chasing cause that's really what most of these situations are about. You can probably count on one hand how many of the guys actually were moving to win.

[dramachild11]

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well any "superstar" being traded isnt gonna bring back equal value (like the carmelo trade or the chris paul trade) but denver is basically the same team now that they were before they traded melo which is competitive but not likely to win a chip, an my guess is that orlando would fall into the same category, they would remain a team that can win 50 plus games an will probably get eliminated by tthe 2nd round... so the hope is that by trading him you get back a few quality players who can help win a chip an hopefully score big with a draft pick in the top 10 (that way you have a better overall team and those 3 or 4 new guys earn approx what one superstar makes in a year) plus this way there is no rebuilding mode where losing 50+ games is expected, none of this makes any sense to you?

[LionsFanNJ]

I have this feeling Orlando truly won't accept anything less than a superstar in return for Dwight when that's never been the case in these superstar trades. We'll see though.

Personally I believe like Deron's trade last year someone else will be the surprise BIG trade move at the deadline.

[Drewski]

The more I see this argument, the more it makes it clear to me that Jerry West's line of thinking is the way to go. What you're suggesting makes no sense. This mantra that the media has drilled into guys head about not losing guys for nothing has gotten old. You just said yourself, you're not getting equal value for Dwight for any trade, so why would you take back guys that aren't going to win you a title? You call Dwight on his bluff, if he's willing to walk away from you and the money he can make staying, then so be it. You let him walk and clear the cap space for the following year and immediately start rebuilding your franchise with the pieces and players YOU choose and really want. It's a waste of yours and fans time to take back whatever just to say you got something when nine times out of ten, those pieces don't stay with you anyway. What do you get draft picks that wind up being mid to late first round picks because the guy you just traded ensures that those picks won't be lottery picks? Make them choose between they're money and they're brand chasing cause that's really what most of these situations are about. You can probably count on one hand how many of the guys actually were moving to win.

The Magic can get pieces for Dwight, though. They won't be trading him for Vladmir Radmonivic. You trade for value because you're running a professional organization and the non Restricted FA class next year is garbage. The cap space would do nothing more or less and to top it off they're stuck paying someone like Hedo a ridiculous contract while they lack talent to contend.

Don't understand how it can be justified to not get a piece or even a few pieces that you want if it's clear D12 is gone. Magic have been down this road before though so shrug.

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[da ThRONe]

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The Magic can get pieces for Dwight, though. They won't be trading him for Vladmir Radmonivic. You trade for value because you're running a professional organization and the non Restricted FA class next year is garbage. The cap space would do nothing more or less and to top it off they're stuck paying someone like Hedo a ridiculous contract while they lack talent to contend.

Don't understand how it can be justified to not get a piece or even a few pieces that you want if it's clear D12 is gone. Magic have been down this road before though so shrug.

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Yeah it's pretty simple. Why get nothing for your franchise player? Clearly the asset/s you get for a top 5 guy will never be "equal value", but you rather get guys who can be core role players for a championship team 3-4 years later.

I just read on another site that the OKC Thunders turned down a deal for Howard for Ibaka and Harden. Clearly neither Harden nor Ibaka is a superstar, but they both could be key pieces to a championship team. Not to mention the fact that they could free themselves of Turkuglo's contract. Once again why get abosolutely nothing back for a difference maker?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I see where King is coming from and I kinda agree with him as well. But it also depends on the team as well.

If push came to shove with us where we either had to trade Deron or let him walk for nothing, I'd go ahead let him walk. I'd rather start completely over and rebuild thru the draft and FA as opposed to taking back players who won't do much except take up cap space and will make me an average team for the next couple of years. Don't know about anyone else but I'd like for my team to contend for championships, not just settle for 1st/2nd rd playoff appearances every year.

But again, that all depends on the team because not every situation would be the same regardless of how much we want to believe it is.