The worst pick up players.

[AC]

Re: The worst pick up players.

There's at least one of everybody on OS in this video lol

http://youtu.be/LkFXPb2UZXk

One of the funniest youtubers lol

[ggsimmonds]

Re: The worst pick up players.

Any of you ever play with a clapper?

The guy that never moves off ball but stays out on the perimeter clapping for you to pass the ball to him.

[DevSwerve]

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The ball hog who says "I got you" after you complain but still never passes it


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[lilteapot]

Re: The worst pick up players.

Any of you ever play with a clapper?

The guy that never moves off ball but stays out on the perimeter clapping for you to pass the ball to him.

Well then maybe y'all can pass the ball to a brotha some ****in time

[ggsimmonds]

Re: The worst pick up players.

Well then maybe y'all can pass the ball to a brotha some ****in time

Someone could be driving for a wide open layup and that dude would be on the perimeter clapping shouting "drive and dish, drive and dish man."
Oh and he shoots about 20% from three.

[ojandpizza]

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I play with a "clapper" and it drives me crazy. I could be in the process of driving, or passing to someone else and he'll clap his damn hands and make you double take and **** up what you originally wanted to do.

I guess I should just ignore him, but it's just something I'm not used to. If he's not clapping he's saying "here!" or "kick" all the time.


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[Hassan Darkside]

Re: The worst pick up players.

When y'all play pickup, do you talk on defense?

I routinely try to call out screens, picks, cutters, etc but I always feel like I'm the only one that talks on D.

[ehh]

Re: The worst pick up players.

Always, it's ingrained in me. Played college ball - you'd get chewed out, lose minutes and spend plenty of time running suicides/16's during practice if you didn't talk on D. It was pretty much a zero-tolerance policy.

[VDusen04]

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When y'all play pickup, do you talk on defense?

I routinely try to call out screens, picks, cutters, etc but I always feel like I'm the only one that talks on D.

I always talk, but it bounces between "light", "moderate", and "heavy" depending upon my environment.

Much of the younger crowd often doesn't respond wonderfully to heavy chatter, even if it's productive. When I was that age myself, I could talk a ton and just make my teammates deal with it no matter what, because I was one of them.

But as I separate from the younger crowd, constant chatter with an unfamiliar group can alienate my teammates at times, in the "What's this guy even doing?" fashion. In that case, I keep it to the basics (in-coming screens, calling outlet).

If I'm playing with folks I know a little bit though, chatter picks up to discuss help, where to guide an offensive player, encouragement to push in the open floor, etc. Even then, I tread lightly because some folks just weren't raised in the game to operate like that.

For example, there's a 23-year-old I've known for 10 years with a very nice mid-range stroke, but has struggled with basketball confidence of late after taking some time off from the game. I had him on my squad and merely wanted him to take the shots he usually takes (of which he'd been shying away from doing in previous games). So I told him we were going to be getting him some shots, and make or miss, we just needed him to keep firing to make our team dangerous.

I found out later he quit after that game, telling a mutual friend I'd gone into coach mode. Maybe he was being weak, maybe I was being overbearing. But it's moments like that that reminds me it's all a delicate balance when it comes to chatter, even if it might theoretically be the right thing to do.

[AC]

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Oh my god. Guy comes in today without his own basketball, snakes this poor guy's basketball who was too nice to say no, dribbled for about 47 minutes before each jumper he took. Then the game starts, he changes into this fluorescent orange wife beater, demands to be PG, travels like 6 times, dribbles around the court for 5 minutes before each shot and ends up 4/12 with precisely 0 assists, and screams at people for not playing defense when his style of defense is "stand in passing lanes while flailing arms and then commit over the back fouls and call it crashing the glass." Then a bunch of his buddies showed up who were much better and similarly douchey and at that point I decided the Tuesday night crowd probably isn't right for me.

Beyond frustrating.

To chime in on the talk in this thread, I'm pretty young and I'm usually the only one communicating on defense (calling out cutters as well as screens and pointing out matchups) with guys probably 10, 20 years older than me. And to quit over something like that^ is definitely him being weak, not you being overbearing. That's nuts.

Also a fun stereotype: "You gotta call screens!" guy who just can't play man to man defense

[ojandpizza]

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I don't mind if someone doesn't call the screen but they better at least switch it. If they do neither, and it's a serious game, almost nothing pisses me off more lol.


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[ojandpizza]

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Played with a guy about a month or so ago, and he almost always made sure he was the one bringing the ball up the court. He would look at any of us on his team and we could be wide open, he would just say "I see you" and keep dribbling or shoot a contested shot. Winners stayed on (as most anywhere) and we ended up winning about 8-10 straight so we all had to hear "I see you" about 100 times that night lol. I'm not even really exaggerating, it was about every trip up.

Normally that type of thing doesn't bother me much. Because I'm not one to need tons of shots for myself, and usually if a player calls his own number that often he's probably fairly good. But in this case he was (by far) the worst guy out of our 5. He even had one of the guys who road with him yelling at him before it was over with lol.


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[KG]

Re: The worst pick up players.

I always talk, but it bounces between "light", "moderate", and "heavy" depending upon my environment.

Much of the younger crowd often doesn't respond wonderfully to heavy chatter, even if it's productive. When I was that age myself, I could talk a ton and just make my teammates deal with it no matter what, because I was one of them and leading by example.

But as I separate from the younger crowd, constant chatter with an unfamiliar group can alienate my teammates at times, in the "What's this guy even doing?" fashion. In that case, I keep it to the basics (in-coming screens, calling outlet).

If I'm playing with folks I know a little bit though, chatter picks up to discuss help, where to guide an offensive player, encouragement to push in the open floor, etc. Even then, I tread lightly because some folks just weren't raised in the game to operate like that.

For example, there's a 23-year-old I've known for 10 years with a very nice mid-range stroke, but has struggled with basketball confidence of late after taking some time off from the game. I had him on my squad and merely wanted him to take the shots he usually takes (of which he'd been shying away from doing in previous games). So I told him we were going to be getting him some shots, and make or miss, we just needed him to keep firing to make our team dangerous.

I found out later he quit after that game, telling a mutual friend I'd gone into coach mode. Maybe he was being weak, maybe I was being overbearing. But it's moment like that that reminds me it's all a delicate balance when it comes to chatter, even if it might theoretically be the right thing to do.

Yeah, my talking depends on the level of comp and the familiarity with the other players. In my friendly games where it's more about just getting a run and not competing like it's Game 7 I'll have some fun out there and chat it up but in runs at my gym, with mostly younger kids, I'll just call out screens. Like you said, some of these younger kids get so bent out of shape if you even suggest something to them. I'll usually just give them words of encouragement like "you have to shoot that" during the game and maybe say something to them after the game explaining why.

One thing that is becoming increasingly irritating to me is all the extra ish after someone hits a 3. The "Melo finger-tap on the head", the "Curry point to the sky", etc... It drives the old man in me crazy.

[Nevertheles109]

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When y'all play pickup, do you talk on defense?

I routinely try to call out screens, picks, cutters, etc but I always feel like I'm the only one that talks on D.

I'm talking as soon as the other team gets the rebound. "Get up court" "Know your assignments" "Pick pick!"

With my 5'9" height I usually guard the best guy on the opposing team and I take pride in it. The only reason I have an advantage is because most younger cats basketball IQ is lacking and I focus on their weaknesses and get in their head. The old heads like me with a height advantage give me fits. They put me on the post and raise up on me like I don't exist...dam you growth spurt!

PS: Trash talking isn't what it use to be. Back in my day (Can't believe I'm using that as an opener) it was the catalyst to a good competitive game.

[VDusen04]

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Played with a guy about a month or so ago, and he almost always made sure he was the one bringing the ball up the court. He would look at any of us on his team and we could be wide open, he would just say "I see you" and keep dribbling or shoot a contested shot.

My fear of being that guy has led me to committing some awful turnovers over the years. It's really stupid when I say it out loud but in pick-up ball, I had to break a long-standing habit of "good faith" plays, where I'd attempt to push the ball up to a teammate whether he was truly open or not, just so he knew I wasn't trying to dominate the ball and whatnot (probably a guilty conscious).

Like you said, some of these younger kids get so bent out of shape if you even suggest something to them. I'll usually just give them words of encouragement like "you have to shoot that" during the game and maybe say something to them after the game explaining why.

One thing that is becoming increasingly irritating to me is all the extra ish after someone hits a 3. The "Melo finger-tap on the head", the "Curry point to the sky", etc... It drives the old man in me crazy.

Haha, I haven't seen a lot of the post-3-pointer theatrics from our young guns, though they're mostly low key types of guys. Either way, I try to just accept that's the evolution of the culture surrounding the game, though sometimes that's easier said than done. As someone who grew up in an era of basketball where yelling and flexing after a big dunk became a thing, I don't always have a ton of room to judge.

But yeah, when it comes to interacting with the young guns on things they're doing wrong, once there's a certain level of age difference, it often doesn't work out well. It's just too easy for a lot of kids to write off someone unfamiliar critiquing their game as "That old guy's a douche." Sometimes only works if you've fully established yourself as a nice fellow or have a known coaching background in the area.

PS: Trash talking isn't what it use to be. Back in my day (Can't believe I'm using that as an opener) it was the catalyst to a good competitive game.

Trash talking's still there, it just depends upon who's doing it. Like I said above, sometimes the dynamics just change depending on your own age. The older you get, while still playing a high level of basketball (i.e. avoiding the 30-and-over leagues), the bigger the cultural void there'll be between you and your competition.

And regardless of age, it just depends upon the competition. I play in some locations where trash talking still abounds, but then there's other places with similar age demographics where any kind of talking is perceived as unusual.