2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

[OSUFan_88]

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I just don't see the Crash comparison. Just because Williams doesn't take a lot of shots, doesn't mean he can't make it. I mean, damn, he was like 60% from 3.

I also think Williams is a PF in the NBA, not a SF. He doesn't have the handles for an NBA 3.

I really don't know if there is one player in the NBA that Williams compares. He's like...A smaller Amar'e? A less athletic Blake Griffin?

I don't know...I cannot put my finger on it.

[DakkoN]

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Just going by that video of him, I can't see him being any better than a career backup C in the league, which isn't a bad thing. He rebounds well and gets in good position, didn't see much defensively to be able to tell how good he is there, but he should definitely have a solid career. Might take him a while but if he goes to a team that focuses on Defense I can see him having a Marcin Gortat type player.

Really? Honestly I see a whole LOT of Luis Scola in his game. Could probably average 15-18 and 9 for a long time

[ex carrabba fan]

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I'm gonna say it's hard to judge Kanter. Not enough footage.

With the college guys, at least we've been able to watch them throughout the year.

The international guys, it's tough to give them an honest assessment.

As far as Crash/Williams comparison goes, Gerald can play the 3 or 4. I really do see Williams doing the same exact thing. He's not a shooter by any stretch. So don't let stats or anything else fool you. I've kept tabs on this kid for a while.

If Williams isn't Crash, he certainly isn't Jamison either. Others have said Beasley, but once again Beasley is a shooter. Williams does his damage near the basket, but can occasionally step out and hit some jumpers.

I'm interested to see if that SG from Colorado impresses in camp.

[ex carrabba fan]

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This Kemba mix is nice, got it from a dude on another site.

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[jeebs9]

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For a guy who has basically been hating on Kemba this whole thread...I love watching Kemba highlights...lol I know weird. Must be a New York thing.

I can see the Crash/Williams comparison. But I don't agree right now. Williams just so much more effective coming out of college. I mean even comparing them now. Williams has little Carmelo in his game. Or maybe David West. I think David West is probably the best comparison right now.

[ex carrabba fan]

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David West though?

When has West done one of those athletic moves in the video that Williams has already showed.

David West is brooding and slow and nowhere near as athletic compared to Williams.

On the other hand West is once again one of those players who is very skilled and crafty and his 20 foot jumper is automatic. Williams is still really really raw, it's tough to say if he'll ever get to West's skill level.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

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For a guy who has basically been hating on Kemba this whole thread...I love watching Kemba highlights...lol I know weird. Must be a New York thing.

I can see the Crash/Williams comparison. But I don't agree right now. Williams just so much more effective coming out of college. I mean even comparing them now. Williams has little Carmelo in his game. Or maybe David West. I think David West is probably the best comparison right now.

I was thinking the same thing

[jeebs9]

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^^At least you can see what I was talking about.^^ He got the face up game. He has a high IQ on the court. His shot selection is pretty damn good in my opinion. All his shots are always with in the offense. But he plays a lot bigger than Melo. His handle is good. But I would play him at the 4.


Maybe I should of said "an athletic verison of david west". Maybe that would of made more sense. I don't see the "raw" your talking about. The word raw would be used for players like Perry Jones. Derrick Williams is the most NBA ready players in the whole draft. He is this years Evan Turner lol.

[OSUFan_88]

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Hmmm...I do like the little bit of Carmelo post.

Hmmm...honestly, I don't see anyone in the NBA with the same skill set as Williams. Not saying Williams is a star but...yeah, his game is unique. Sneaky athleticism who loves to dunk and knows exactly what he is and won't force the game.

[PrettyT11]

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First time posting in here. I was waiting til we saw more of who was coming out and who was staying but I will jump in now. I truely think all of the freshmen should take a page out of the Blake Griffin book and go back to school for their sophmore year(except Irving who is being looked at as the number one or two pick). They all have things they can work on and could really help them for the next draft and get their games ready for the next level. As far as some of the players go

Derrick Williams is a stud without question in my book. I also see him as a 3 in NBA. His handle is just fine for that position. Granger is an all star in the NBA with a worse handle and not even close to the athletic ability of Williams. Furthermore I can name quite a few starting SF's with the same level or less of a handle than Williams. Williams will be just fine in NBA.

I love Barnes at the next level and believe he will be an All Star but really hope he comes back to school and adds even more polish to his game. I don't see the Marvin Williams thing at all with Barnes. Barnes has more offensive skills at this point than Williams has right now. Barnes has all the offensive tools needed to be a good player at the next level. His jumper is very pure and with another season under his belt I believe he would be without question the number one guy in the next draft.

I'm not really certain on Kemba just yet. He has the skills to play at the next level but I don't really see him being a starter. I see him in more of a Jason Terry like role. He has good speed and quickness but come on now he is not on that TJ Ford level of speed of quickness like I have seen some mention. TJ Ford was viewed as the fastest dude in the NBA at a point in time. Kemba will never get viewed as such. Overall though I could see him going in the top 10 and being a solid player but not really a game or team changer.

Sullinger made the best move in going back to school. There are alot of things he needs to work on to get ready for the next level.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Williams is still raw, just not as raw as Perry Jones.

I don't care who you are, if you're a sophomore going into the draft you're raw.

He isn't gonna be a stellar a shooter as he was in college on the next level [he has a decent mid range shot as it is now]. His post game is non existent. His handle is solid, but on the next level he's gonna have to tighten it up if he wants to be able to create for himself.

He is undoubtebly a top 2 prospect in my book but his tweener skill set and size make it tough to truly project his ceiling.

For those who said a little bit of Carmelo, I'm a bit confused by that. Explain that one. I've heard Jamison, Carmelo and David West. I don't see any of that.

[phenom1990]

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I agree, but I also wonder a bit about Irving since we haven't seen that much of him. I worry more about who will get the first pick. If it's the Wizards do you take Irving? What about the Nets?

If your the Nets, it's either Williams or Irving for me. I'm not sure whether I see Williams as a 3 or 4 in the NBA but the Nets could use guys at those positions anyway and playing with Deron Williams would definitely make life easier for him.

But I don't see why you can't pick Irving if you were the Nets. At worst, you have two guys that can create their own shot and get their teammates involved. Deron has shown that he can play the 2 from time to time, so why not try it. If your the Nets, how sure are you that Deron is coming back after next season? At worst, you get your point guard of the future and if things aren't working with Deron, trade him at the deadline next season.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The Nets aren't picking in the Top 10 because we sent that pick to Utah.

But if we did still have that pick and no Deron, then Kyrie would be a lock for us(assuming we wouldn't get robbed of the top pick like we did last year...damn lottery balls).

[jeebs9]

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For those who said a little bit of Carmelo, I'm a bit confused by that. Explain that one. I've heard Jamison, Carmelo and David West. I don't see any of that.

I say Melo/West in the fact that his face up/post up game is the same. He doesn't have the crazy med range game these guys have. He can finish around the basket.

[jeebs9]

ESPN NCAAB - Baylor freshman F Perry Jones III (13.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg) says he will return for his sophomore season

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