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  • WTF
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 20274

    #511
    Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

    So the Cavs officially wasted the Exception.... Wow.

    Good and bad I guess, you don't want to ruin your rebuild bringing in a guy who's going to make you marginally better. Full on rebuild.

    Then again, you have that kind of cash to throw at a financially strapped team, you'd think that they could have came up with something.
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    • OSUFan_88
      Outback Jesus
      • Jul 2004
      • 25642

      #512
      Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

      I would not have been so disappointed if they didn't build it up as being some great trading chip then they decide to just not use it.

      Whatever. Story of the Cavaliers the past 4 years: Talk Big, Do Little.
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      Urban Meyer is lol.

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      • Drewski
        Basketball Reasons
        • Jun 2011
        • 3783

        #513
        Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #514
          Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

          It's very new. I heard it before I got out Medical field a while back. Not much can go wrong from the procedure either from what I know. I've always wanted to know how Dr. Knee (aka Dr Andrews in Alabama) felt about this procedure.
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          • Outcast
            Rookie
            • Nov 2009
            • 351

            #515
            Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

            Originally posted by da ThRONe
            Really like Nene but don't think he's "over-pay" good. I guess it would depend on how much over market vaule you would have to pay him. Speaking for the franchise I support I would say no to Nene I think with such a weak list of FA's he's going to be severely over-paid.
            He might not be "over-pay" good. But in these times where a quality big man (let's face it, Nene is a quality big man) is rare. Who are we going to start at the 5 if not Nene? Mozgov? I believe Mozgov has potential but he still needs a lot of time to develop his game...
            Well, due to the lockout then we could probably sign a decent big in next years FA

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            • da ThRONe
              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
              • Mar 2009
              • 8528

              #516
              Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

              Originally posted by Outcast
              He might not be "over-pay" good. But in these times where a quality big man (let's face it, Nene is a quality big man) is rare. Who are we going to start at the 5 if not Nene? Mozgov? I believe Mozgov has potential but he still needs a lot of time to develop his game...
              Well, due to the lockout then we could probably sign a decent big in next years FA
              This is the major reason the league is where it is now. You should never severely over pay for any player at anytime. 15-25% over market vaule depending on age and current contract. For a player like Nene I wouldn't exceed 15% over market vaule.
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              • Drewski
                Basketball Reasons
                • Jun 2011
                • 3783

                #517
                Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                This is the major reason the league is where it is now. You should never severely over pay for any player at anytime. 15-25% over market vaule depending on age and current contract. For a player like Nene I wouldn't exceed 15% over market vaule.
                But what is market value, when the market is inflating guys left and right?
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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #518
                  Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                  Dont worry WT..... most trade exceptions dont get used in the nba

                  Its really not uncommon

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                  • phenom1990
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4789

                    #519
                    Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                    Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                    My final answer: DeMarcus Cousins.
                    I'll go with Lamar Odom. The amount of candy he eats + not having practices or games to burn it off= weight gain.
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                    • da ThRONe
                      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8528

                      #520
                      Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                      Originally posted by Drewski
                      But what is market value, when the market is inflating guys left and right?
                      This is the common mistake with free agency. Determining market value based on other FA that year. I would determine MV base on the players grade and the players at the top of the list for that players position.

                      Dwight Howard would get a 9.5 and he's worth x dollars

                      So if I graded Nene as 7.75 than he is only worth x-1.75(grade points) dollars.

                      Not taking into account the other FA's. Now if so fool wants to pay Nene 10% over with Dwight is making good luck. I'm not going over 15% of what I consider MV.
                      Last edited by da ThRONe; 07-01-2011, 10:53 AM.
                      You looking at the Chair MAN!

                      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                      • Drewski
                        Basketball Reasons
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3783

                        #521
                        Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                        Originally posted by da ThRONe
                        This is the common mistake with free agency. Determining market value based on other FA that year. I would determine MV base on the players grade and the players at the top of the list for that players position.

                        Dwight Howard would get a 9.5 and he's worth x dollars

                        So if I graded Nene as 7.75 than he is only worth x-1.75 dollars.

                        Not taking into account the other Fas. Now if so fool wants to pay Nene 10% over with Dwight is making im not going over 15% of what I consider MV.
                        I like that system's concept as far as me being a GM and determining homedude's worth. It'd be perfect if all GM's followed that rule, then we'd see far less inflation. But there's always team X willing to overpay. Which is why this CBA will likely have provisions that save teams from themselves (non-guaranteed contracts).
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                        • da ThRONe
                          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 8528

                          #522
                          Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                          Originally posted by Drewski
                          I like that system's concept as far as me being a GM and determining homedude's worth. It'd be perfect if all GM's followed that rule, then we'd see far less inflation. But there's always team X willing to overpay. Which is why this CBA will likely have provisions that save teams from themselves (non-guaranteed contracts).
                          Agreed, and this is why I like the flex cap. If guys like Dr.Buss or Mark Cuban want to go the extra mile fine, but they only get one extra mile not 10. While guys like Sterling will be forced to atleast finish the damn race.
                          You looking at the Chair MAN!

                          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #523
                            Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                            If I was top rated player and getting paid over 7 million a year. I would never sign a non-guaranteed contract.
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                            • Outcast
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 351

                              #524
                              Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                              Originally posted by da ThRONe
                              This is the major reason the league is where it is now. You should never severely over pay for any player at anytime. 15-25% over market vaule depending on age and current contract. For a player like Nene I wouldn't exceed 15% over market vaule.
                              I understand your point, I am also against over-paying especially in a rebuilding franchise. But as mentioned before, a good center is severely rare in the league right now and when it's either a top 10 center or nothing, sometimes you prefer the top 10 center with the little sacrifice.
                              Although, it's all hypothetical speaking, as right now the league is in a lockout so Nene or no Nene is doesn't really matter

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                              • Drewski
                                Basketball Reasons
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 3783

                                #525
                                Re: NBA Off-season Movement & FA List (PG 1 Updated 6/29)

                                Originally posted by jeebs9
                                If I was top rated player and getting paid over 7 million a year. I would never sign a non-guaranteed contract.
                                Oh I agree. IF non-guaranteed contracts get the nod somehow, there'd have to be a huge safety for a player to fall back on. What that could be, I don't have a great idea. I think a start is to have negative ramifications if a team does decide to terminate a contract, make them think twice. And a % portion of the terminated contract should still -have- to be paid to the player. Just ideas.

                                So 50% of the terminated contract (hypothetical), + funding from the new contract on top = a pretty good chunk still. For some guys it would mean a huge loss of income. But those guys are the same guys who never really "deserved" that money anyway (which now turns to the debate of having to "deserve" the money vs it's not X players fault they were offered that contract). Very sticky.
                                Last edited by Drewski; 07-01-2011, 11:13 AM.
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