CBA/Lockout Discussion Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Which also means your team will be in the Title Hunt year in/out.

[Dice]

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Every team is hunting for the title...at least I think so. BUT does spending a lot of money makes you legit contenders? The answer is no.

And in reference to the Bulls. They had the 4th lowest payroll in the league and won 62 games in the ECF.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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1. Technically yes. Realistically? Nope

2. Spending a lot of money? No. Spending alot of money on the right PLAYERS? Yes, which is what guys like Mr. Thomas and Mr. Layden were not doing.

3. Guarantee they won't be able to have the 4th lowest payroll in the League every year and still make the ECF year in/out.

[da ThRONe]

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That's the whole point. Don't say that 'teams with the big pay roles are the only true title contender' because they don't. And the Knicks payroll was top 3 for years and they were one of the worst teams. The 2007 year was an extreme example because they boosted the highest in the league.

Big payrolls mean just that...big payroll.

So let's ignore the Lakers, Bulls, Heats, Celtics.

Has there ever been a team under the luxury tax to win a title? Has there been a team under the luxury tax to make it to a conference finals?

[Dice]

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But that's gradual spending. Building a team. This is opposite of just throwing out money all of a sudden and buying a championship. Doesn't work that way. In the NBA, you can't buy a championship.

[da ThRONe]

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But that's gradual spending. Building a team. This is opposite of just throwing out money all of a sudden and buying a championship. Doesn't work that way. In the NBA, you can't buy a championship.

How can you say this when the title winner are all spending bank on their rosters. Who are these teams winning titles not atleast 10mil into the luxury tax?

It's extremely hard to gradually build when your key players leave for bigger markets when they get the chance.

[Dice]

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How can you say this when the title winner are all spending bank on their rosters. Who are these teams winning titles not atleast 10mil into the luxury tax?

It's extremely hard to gradually build when your key players leave for bigger markets when they get the chance.

Try San Antonio. There 2003 and 2005 titles with no luxury tax. There 2007 title less than a million. Detroit in 2004, less than a million. How about the Heat in 2006, no luxury tax.

[da ThRONe]

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Try San Antonio. There 2003 and 2005 titles with no luxury tax. There 2007 title less than a million. Detroit in 2004, less than a million. How about the Heat in 2006, no luxury tax.

So we 3 teams in how many years? Ofcourse you will have a few teams have things fall in place, but when you look at the overwhelming majority it's the teams who spend a ton.

[Dice]

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So we 3 teams in how many years? Ofcourse you will have a few teams have things fall in place, but when you look at the overwhelming majority it's the teams who spend a ton.

Well, you asked so I gave you the answer. You make it seems like it's never been done. Or like it's something that's rarely done. And considering your question, the Lakers was the only NBA champion(2010) since the luxury tax was instituted that has spent +$10 million.

[da ThRONe]

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Well, you asked so I gave you the answer. You make it seems like it's never been done. Or like it's something that's rarely done. And considering your question, the Lakers was the only NBA champion(2010) since the luxury tax was instituted that has spent +$10 million.

The point is the overwhelming majority of title and title contending teams are spending more money while the overwhelming majority of non-contending teams/bottom feeders are at the lower end of players salaries.

[Dice]

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Ok. That's a fair assessment. But that's different from your original point of spending a significant amount of money on the luxury tax to win a championship.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I didn't think he had to explain himself a bit further to realize that was his main point though LOL.

[Dice]

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Spending more to be contenders and Needing to spend +10 million over the luxury tax to win the championship looks like two different things to me. But what do I know?

[bigeastbumrush]

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I hope not to comment again until this thing is over but man, I hate Derek Fisher.

[tehova]

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Right, but the mindset of these "small" market teams not being able to hold over and audience is generated by the marketting strategy of the NBA, which caters to letting the rich get richer while the poor get thanked for spicing up the playoffs (Grizzles, Thunder for example), yet don't get the full marketting any team selling in the top 5 of jersey sales gets. I'll say that Stern pushed the OKC Durant's a bit this year, but even then.

Does marketing a team only mean the TNT/ESPN games?