CBA/Lockout Discussion Thread

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This whole "let's not show the players" thing is so childish. You build the league on their popularity and one labor dispute and now they don't exist.

Legal issues maybe?

[da ThRONe]

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Legal issues maybe?

The league owns the right to use the videos do they not? I seriously doubt there is anything legal about it. This seems like a tactical move to lessen the popularity of the players.

[Basketball GURU]

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Honestly, why aren't they allowed to mention their (the players) names and all that?

Never really understood that

During the lockout the players aren't getting paid by the NBA, so it's probably a legal issue.

[da ThRONe]

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During the lockout the players aren't getting paid by the NBA, so it's probably a legal issue.

That's odd it didn't effect the NFL and besides they aren't paid around this time of year anyways I don't think it's a legal issue thing.

[Dice]

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That's why I asked about the NBA 2K question. Usually in Madden, before the game starts, I see that the game was licensed by the NFL and NFLPA. Same goes with MLB the Show. However, either I'm blind as a bat and missed it OR it's not there BUT I didn't see a license by the NBAPA. Just the NBA.

If if it's the case that NBA 2K is licensed JUST BY the NBA, then it seems that the NBA does own the rights to the usage and likeness of NBA players. Which da ThRONe is right. It seems childish to take off the players from NBA TV as if it they didn't exists. Even in the commercials, they completely removed them.

I might be wrong about the 2K license but if someone has some insight I'd appreciate it.

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No sure man, but they're locked out period, cant use facilities, cant use trainers coaches talk to anyone employed by the nba, office workers, janitors, etc..

It was a question though, not a statement, im not exactly sure

[Basketball GURU]

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David Stern 'expects' an agreement will be made between the owners and players that will prevent the cancellation of the 11-12 NBA season.

“I would say that we have very smart players who recognize that this system is very good to them,'' he said. "You've got 13 players on a roster averaging $5 million apiece, that’s $65 million and what the owners have said is, ‘we’re going to try very hard as we reset this thing to keep you as close to that number as we can.’

“The NFL, which is usually profitable as opposed to the NBA, which isn’t, got the double-digit [revenue] reductions from their players. Our players will understand that when the rhetoric stops and they will understand that the owners are trying to do the right thing and our players always try to do the right thing.”

The NBA recently filed an unfair labor practice charge with the National Labor Relations Board to prevent a decertification.

Stern said he remains optimistic about reaching an agreement.

“I expect that we’ll make a deal because the alternative is very destructive,” he said. “It’s destructive of $2 billion worth of player salaries and it’s destructive most important to our fans of the game. And if it spirals badly everyone gets hurt. But in some ways I worry because the players have more to lose, especially those in the later stages of their career. So we’re going to do everything we can when the rhetoric slows down to get this thing back on track.”



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1Uq36r09U

[ProfessaPackMan]

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More fluff out of that short idiot's mouth.

Ain't buying a damn thing he says, ESPECIALLY right now.

[yankeesgiants]

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That's odd it didn't effect the NFL and besides they aren't paid around this time of years anyways I don't think it's a legal issue thing.

Actually the players wont start missing checks until November. The NBA pay schedule is different then other sports.

[tehova]

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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/8/15/2363784/nba-lockout-2011-95-theses

its alot, but somebody might want to highlight some that are interesting for the rest of the adhd crowd

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Do you think an NFL G3 like program would work in the NBA?

[da ThRONe]

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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/8/1...2011-95-theses

its alot, but somebody might want to highlight some that are interesting for the rest of the adhd crowd

I think it's interesting that the cost of having games are increasing faster than players salaries. Another reason to reduce the season in my opinion. Less games less expenses.

[ffaacc03]

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I think it's interesting that the cost of having games are increasing faster than players salaries. Another reason to reduce the season in my opinion. Less games less expenses.

If I understood right it is not the cost of the games that it is rising but the cost to make fans confortable and to attract them ... and, to me, that has nothing to do with the amount of games but rather with the amount of fans (incomes) they are after ... if any, under the current structure pictured within the article (not what the article propposes but what is and has been in effect), this would only mean that those exact spends/cost would have to be somehow compensated within a shortened season.

[da ThRONe]

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If I understood right it is not the cost of the games that it is rising but the cost to make fans confortable and to attract them ... and, to me, that has nothing to do with the amount of games but rather with the amount of fans (incomes) they are after ... if any, under the current structure pictured within the article (not what the article propposes but what is and has been in effect), this would only mean that those exact spends/cost would have to be somehow compensated within a shortened season.

Less games mean higher attendance. So if on average teams are spending 3mil each game but on average are grossing 3mil per game your not gaining anything. Now if you have less games an attendance goes up 50% you're net gain is 1.5mil. Now instead of breaking even or losing money each game your earning money.

[yankeesgiants]

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I think it's interesting that the cost of having games are increasing faster than players salaries. Another reason to reduce the season in my opinion. Less games less expenses.

That doesn't actually fix the problem. The problem is that people with significant capital to spend on sports entertainment (ie corporations) aren't spending it on basketball any longer. They are spending it on Baseball, Football and now Hockey.