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  • RedSceptile
    MVP
    • Jun 2011
    • 3680

    #16
    Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack



    Holy conspiracy Batman!!

    Those diabolical fiends!! Determining an MVP by process of elimination on who had the most consistent performance of canidates considered from start to finish of the season. Truly criminal masterminds at work here.
    I hate how pretentious people can act. If you want to get technical Dwight Howard had the most consistent performance and a worst supporting cast around him while still being his team's best defensive player as well as defensive anchor (everyone else on the Magic is pretty much a matador on defense) while being their go-to-guy and most efficient on the offensive end. I know Dwight Howard wishes his lineup was as decent as Rose's with a bench that doesn't give other benches giggling fits. As I said the MVP was Rose's since pretty much January, it's no knock on Rose but to act like he's done the best when their were players having either arguably better seasons, or just as good with an even worst lineup (seriously look at the Orlando roster) is to be facetious to say the least.

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    • AlexBrady
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3341

      #17
      Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

      Derrick Rose is a terrific player. He has power and speed and can change direction at will. He is almost impossible to keep out of the paint. That being said, he still forces shots, can't defend against screens, and generally makes poor decisions in a crowd of bigs.

      Dwight Howard is the best rebounder and shot blocker in the game. Too bad he has so many other deficiencies. He can't defend straight up, pass, handle, or play with a high IQ. He routinely plays horrific games against top opponents. He is not a championship caliber player. All that being said, look for the media to crown him as another bogus MVP in the near future.

      True MVPs are guys like Wade, Nowitzki, Bryant, Gasol, Pierce, Duncan, ect. Guys who play hard, smart, and with courage.

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      • ffaacc03
        MVP
        • Oct 2008
        • 3485

        #18
        Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

        It could have gone either way: Rose or Dwight ... both were the most valuable players for their respective teams and therefor, both deservers ... if we were to pick the MVP entirely by efficiency or by who is the best player of a given position, then there wouldnt be much of a choice rather than LBJ ... and yes, even last season despite the "big 3".

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        • Basketball GURU
          MVP
          • Jul 2010
          • 1287

          #19
          Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

          Derrick Rose 100% deserves to be MVP, just like all the other previous winners. Every players has his flaws. 25/7/4 while leading his team to the #1 overall record without playing with Boozer or Noah for the most part.

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          • Weeks
            L Corleone
            • Aug 2009
            • 2990

            #20
            Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

            Dwight had a chance to win it. But I think Dwight didn't win/deserve it for a couple reasons:

            -the magic were 4th in the east (too low compared to recent years)
            -he wasn't reliable in the clutch
            -he hurt his team by not consistently making free throws
            -he led the league in techs. In all honestly that shouldnt be why he didnt win it but I don't see the commish giving it to the league leader in techs, and getting all those techs hurt his team

            D. Rose has flaws also, but he had the better "story" and he played his heart out every night unlike Dwight and led the bulls to the best record in the NBA despite the injuries

            Thats why I think d. Rose won, and deserved it
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            • Bumi
              Banned
              • Sep 2010
              • 967

              #21
              Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

              One of the least deserving MVP's ever. And he pretty much confirmed that with quite possibly the worst playoff run ever posted by a MVP winner. Also, one of the few players ever, if not the only player, to ever win an MVP without being a top 5 player.

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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #22
                Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                What he did in the Playoffs has absolutely nothing to do with the MVP award. It's a regular season award so your argument holds little ground.

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                • mvspree8
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 580

                  #23
                  Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                  Originally posted by Altimus
                  What he did in the Playoffs has absolutely nothing to do with the MVP award. It's a regular season award so your argument holds little ground.

                  Yeah, because the most valuable player in the league should feel free to lay an egg in the playoffs and almost get swept by the Pacers, who were if I'm not mistaken the WORST PLAYOFF TEAM IN HISTORY based on their record.

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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #24
                    Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                    Originally posted by mvspree8
                    Yeah, because the most valuable player in the league should feel free to lay an egg in the playoffs and almost get swept by the Pacers, who were if I'm not mistaken the WORST PLAYOFF TEAM IN HISTORY based on their record.
                    Almost swept by the Pacers?

                    Of course the fact that Boozer doesn't show for that series or Deng doesn't show for the Heat series... or Korver for the entire Playoffs gets overlooked. Sorry for D. Rose for not dropping 100 per game.

                    Also Indiana played much better than their record indicated. Especially after the coaching change. They ain't the Cleveland Cavaliers. Plus slam a player for beating a team 4-1 anyway. Nice.

                    Not sure why this topic even got brought up. This has been discussed to death anyway.

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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52920

                      #25
                      Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                      Come on guys, how much ink has to be spilled on this topic?

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                      • Bumi
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 967

                        #26
                        Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                        Originally posted by Altimus
                        What he did in the Playoffs has absolutely nothing to do with the MVP award. It's a regular season award so your argument holds little ground.

                        His performance in the playoffs isn't the reason he didn't deserve the MVP, it merely confirmed he wasn't an MVP caliber player.

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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52920

                          #27
                          Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                          But.....the MVP award.....is.....

                          ....ah, **** it.

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                          • mvspree8
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 580

                            #28
                            Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                            Originally posted by Altimus
                            Almost swept by the Pacers?

                            Of course the fact that Boozer doesn't show for that series or Deng doesn't show for the Heat series... or Korver for the entire Playoffs gets overlooked. Sorry for D. Rose for not dropping 100 per game.

                            Also Indiana played much better than their record indicated. Especially after the coaching change. They ain't the Cleveland Cavaliers. Plus slam a player for beating a team 4-1 anyway. Nice.

                            Not sure why this topic even got brought up. This has been discussed to death anyway.

                            Did you watch that series? Indiana was within 1 possession of winning three of those games late in the 4th quarter. If they even had an average closer they probably would have won them all.

                            Not to mention Rose shot what? 37% in that series, including 22% from downtown. I really can't ever recall an MVP ever crapping the bed that badly. Had he not gotten every single call down the stretch (with a rookie guarding him) the Bulls probably lose that series.

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                            • wizzleman
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 642

                              #29
                              Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

                              Originally posted by Bumi
                              One of the least deserving MVP's ever. And he pretty much confirmed that with quite possibly the worst playoff run ever posted by a MVP winner. Also, one of the few players ever, if not the only player, to ever win an MVP without being a top 5 player.

                              I agree with this whole statement. Rose got torched by Collison and Teague smh, he shot horrible. A team with score first type Point Guard never wins a championship "POINT BLANK".

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                              • Weeks
                                L Corleone
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2990

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mvspree8
                                Yeah, because the most valuable player in the league should feel free to lay an egg in the playoffs and almost get swept by the Pacers, who were if I'm not mistaken the WORST PLAYOFF TEAM IN HISTORY based on their record.
                                4-1 almost swept?

                                I think you mixed up the teams because the Bulls almost swept the pacers
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