D-Rose Overhyped ?

[Bumi]

Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

Exactly... Like I said before. Just like that Allen Iverson team back in 2001. That want was the ending for them. They just didn't get much help from the other players. But always brought a great defense to the table.

Except Iverson led his team to the finals and wasn't a scrub during the process.

[1Rose]

Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

Bumi, you really are clueless. Not a personal attack, but reading your responses, I lose IQ points.

There really seems to be no other way to describe your opinion. Even when you're proven wrong (which has happened MANY times) you continue to ramble and create false realities to justify your opinion.

Cool. He wasn't the best, nor most valuable regular season player either.

He wasn't? So being by far the best player on the best team with the best record doesn't make you valuable?

And also got booted from the playoffs because of him.

Did you watch the conference finals?

The Bulls were fortunate to have played Indiana and Atlanta in the first two rounds. Fairly tame competition.

Wouldn't quite call earning the #1 seed fortunate.

Dirk just won a title. And was mocked before doing so because he was consistently booted prematurely from the playoffs.

Weren't you the one defending his performance in those playoffs, justifying his MVP win, but then once again, proved wrong?

The Bulls were one of the healthiest teams in the NBA throughout the season.

Joakim Noah - 34 games missed
Carlos Boozer - 23 games missed

2 of our Top 3 players miss a combined 57 games. Wrong again.

Arbitrary and meaningless.

If you consider points and assists, two of the most influential stats in determining a MVP, meaningless, then how do you determine it? Name in a hat? I'm confused.

Same Heat team was beaten by Dallas, whose supporting cast isn't nearly as talented as Chicago's. I wonder what the difference was?

With the same superstar player that gave less than half the effort that he did against us. That was the difference.

Dallas had more offensive threats than we did. Didn't think that was a secret.

[jeebs9]

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Except Iverson led his team to the finals and wasn't a scrub during the process.

Same difference lol... I said "like" each other. If they didn't have big games their teams didn't play well.

[wizzleman]

Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

Bumi, you really are clueless. Not a personal attack, but reading your responses, I lose IQ points.

There really seems to be no other way to describe your opinion. Even when you're proven wrong (which has happened MANY times) you continue to ramble and create false realities to justify your opinion.




He wasn't? So being by far the best player on the best team with the best record doesn't make you valuable?



Did you watch the conference finals?



Wouldn't quite call earning the #1 seed fortunate.



Weren't you the one defending his performance in those playoffs, justifying his MVP win, but then once again, proved wrong?



Joakim Noah - 34 games missed
Carlos Boozer - 23 games missed

2 of our Top 3 players miss a combined 57 games. Wrong again.



If you consider points and assists, two of the most influential stats in determining a MVP, meaningless, then how do you determine it? Name in a hat? I'm confused.



With the same superstar player that gave less than half the effort that he did against us. That was the difference.

Dallas had more offensive threats than we did. Didn't think that was a secret.

But it wasn't like they were both out at the same time, he atleast had one of them. Without D-Rose the bulls are a playoff team, without dwight the magic are a lottery team. So who's the most valuable ?

[Bumi]

Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

Bumi, you really are clueless.

Again, ad hominem.

Not a personal attack, but reading your responses, I lose IQ points.

That's unfortunate. I can't imagine you have too many to begin with.

There really seems to be no other way to describe your opinion

"Accurate", comes to mind.

Even when you're proven wrong (which has happened MANY times) you continue to ramble and create false realities to justify your opinion.

That actually hasn't happened, at all. Especially in this thread, and most especially by you.

He wasn't? So being by far the best player on the best team with the best record doesn't make you valuable?

Perhaps you lose IQ points when reading my post due to the fact that you're reading comprehension is lacking?

I didn't say he wasn't valuable. I said he wasn't the most valuable MVP candidate to his team. Massive difference.

Did you watch the conference finals?

Yes.

Wouldn't quite call earning the #1 seed fortunate.

Nor would I. However, I'd call drawing one of the worst playoff teams in the history of the league along with the Atlanta Hawks fortunate.

Weren't you the one defending his performance in those playoffs, justifying his MVP win, but then once again, proved wrong?

No.

Joakim Noah - 34 games missed
Carlos Boozer - 23 games missed

2 of our Top 3 players miss a combined 57 games. Wrong again.

Most of those games(if any?) were not missed at the same time. The Bulls were one of the healthiest teams in the NBA throughout the season.

If you consider points and assists, two of the most influential stats in determining a MVP, meaningless, then how do you determine it? Name in a hat? I'm confused.

The arbitrary nature and irrelevancy is of the cutoff, not the statistics.

Sure, Rose was top 10 in both points and assist. But is 25 and 7.7 more impressive than 26.7 and 7? If you think being in top 10 in both points and assist holds relevance, than yes. If you take the statistics for what they are, no.

Russell Westbrook is one of 5 NBA players in history to reach 4,000 points, 1,500 assists and 1,000 rebounds during his first three years in the league. The others are Chris Paul, LeBron James, Anfernee Hardaway and Oscar Robertson. Does he deserve an MVP award because of it? Is he the best PG in the league, or even top 3? No.

With the same superstar player that gave less than half the effort that he did against us. That was the difference.

Wade played great against Chicago.

Dallas had more offensive threats than we did. Didn't think that was a secret.

And Chicago was better defensively and on the boards than Dallas. Supposedly, before the playoffs, they were the better all around team.

And outside of Jason Terry, I cant think of any other consistent offensive threats Dirk was playing with. But then, Terry has never been a great playoff performer anyway.

[Weeks]

Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

But it wasn't like they were both out at the same time, he atleast had one of them. Without D-Rose the bulls are a playoff team, without dwight the magic are a lottery team. So who's the most valuable ?

That's an opinion

[Altimus]

Re: D-Rose Overhyped ?

to the thread everyone!