NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

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SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico
David Stern: Comes a time when you have to stop negotiating. Time has arrived.


SeanDeveney Sean Deveney
Looks like the biggest concession from the NBA on the "revised" offer is the new MLE for taxpayers: 3 years, $9 mil, up from 2 yrs, $5 mil

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Stern: we have both done everything possible that it's possible to do...I am optimistic owners will approve if union approves it

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Stern: "We wait the response from the union. We did our best."

jmikeNBAusat J. Michael Falgoust
Stern: I think both sides would like to begin the season on Dec. 15 if that's possible #nbalockout

jmikeNBAusat J. Michael Falgoust
Stern says his ultimatum had the "desired impact" #nbalockout

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jmikeNBAusat J. Michael Falgoust
Silver: We believe we will be proven right over time (that competitive balance will improve) #nbalockout

jmikeNBAusat J. Michael Falgoust
Silver: I recognize from the players standpoint, they do not see these changes in their self-interest on the economics as well #nbalockout

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sam_amick Sam Amick
Deals typically done when both sides see something they don't like but could live with. Hunter and Stern both sound that way tonight.


ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
It sounded like Fisher, Hunter want to dissect the offer w/player reps and try to negotiate more. Stern indicating negotiations are over.

SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico
Just a gut feeling, but we're going to have NBA basketball soon. Just a gut feeling, but that day will be Dec. 15.

KevinDing KEVIN DING
After all this, to miss only 10 games of basketball? If players wind up refusing, they'll look like the bad guys.

[Taur3asi3]

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That press conference just left me filled with a feeling of terrible sadness. I have no faith in the union to do whats best for themselves or the fans (NBA on Christmas!) despite the fact that this is seemingly the best offer they're going to get. I just want this to be over already.

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ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
One reason NBPA wants time to discuss w/player reps face to face: Complaints at Tuesday's meeting that more info comes from media than union

The ball is in the union's court. i think this is their final offer this time

MrMichaelLee Michael Lee
David Stern: "There comes a time when you have to be through negotiating & we are."

[ProfessaPackMan]

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So in this day and age of technology....in the year 2011, soon to be 2012, these dudes can't Skype or have a Conference Call throughout the weekend? Are you ****ing serious with this ****?

[FlyRice]

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Please accept the offer

I can live with 72 games and the season starting on December 15. Just don't drag this out any longer and get it over with!

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Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

So in this day and age of technology....in the year 2011, soon to be 2012, these dudes can't Skype or have a Conference Call throughout the weekend? Are you ****ing serious with this ****?

exactly. skype, confrence call or something

[The 24th Letter]

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I think if this is voted on, we are good to go.

Players can say what they want, but when your in that private booth, I think the will to play basketball will overcome.

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SamAmicoFSO Sam Amico
Honestly, when NBA union exec Billy Hunter says "It's not the greatest proposal in the world," I hear "Hey, everybody! We got a deal!"

[Taur3asi3]

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Yeah, that really struck me as well. Maybe the guys arent the most capable when it comes to that kind of technology or something I have no idea. Maybe the union just wants to drag it out and foolishly make Stern sweat? I get that some stuff is better to do in person but seriously thats just wasting time.

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MokeHamilton Moke Hamilton
#NBPA may want until Mon to get signatures for decert. petition. If it has enough, PA can bring to #NBA & say "give us this, or we decert."

RicBucher Ric Bucher
Have to admire owners' strategy. Revised offer puts onus squarely on players to accept deal -- bad or not -- or be blamed for armageddon.

[King_B_Mack]

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So in this day and age of technology....in the year 2011, soon to be 2012, these dudes can't Skype or have a Conference Call throughout the weekend? Are you ****ing serious with this ****?

exactly. skype, confrence call or something

Agreed. I know these dudes listen to ESPN Radio, I have to hear Colin Cowherd's annoying *** advertising Gotomeeting.com every other commercial break. Use that **** or something man.

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Several agents tell Y! Sports they have 200-plus player signatures for union decertification petition and paperwork could be filed Friday.

KBergCBS Ken Berger
The owners' offer is a 50-50 BRI split, sources say. But early indications are, not as meaningfully different on system as Stern portrayed.

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KBergCBS Ken Berger
Owners tweaked sign-and-trades for tax teams, forbidden under previous proposal, "slightly," source says.

KBergCBS Ken Berger
Mini mid-level, as I reported earlier, goes from two years starting at $2.5M every other year for tax teams, to three years starting at $3M.