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  • cjonesfan921
    UGH, next year
    • Jan 2005
    • 20081

    #3721
    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

    Originally posted by matt8204
    Gotta laugh at Jason Terry talking about a class system. Does he realize that even the 12th man on the bench makes more than 99 percent of Americans? Get a grip. You want to be a real lower class person making $7.25/hour and busting your hump at three jobs to make ends meet?
    Another North Jerseyan!!!

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    • matt8204
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 1164

      #3722
      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

      Originally posted by cjonesfan921
      Another North Jerseyan!!!
      Haha, you know it! You too?
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      • cjonesfan921
        UGH, next year
        • Jan 2005
        • 20081

        #3723
        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

        Originally posted by matt8204
        Haha, you know it! You too?
        Yes sir, Clifton.


        And to stay on topic, the players are ridiculous!

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        • Taur3asi3
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3727

          #3724
          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

          Not sure if this was posted or not

          RicBucher Ric Bucher
          New proposal would allow teams to send players to NBDL first 5 years of career and reduce pay to pro-rated 75K. Talk about non-starters.

          RicBucher Ric Bucher
          Snap take: Owners stuck to their script: Play nice for 11 hours, throw sucker punch in the 12th, tell players say "thanks" or else..

          RicBucher Ric Bucher
          League official says NBDL rule, along w/20-yr age limit + offseason drug testing are B-List and not take-it-or-leave-it. BRI/tax rules are.
          As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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          • matt8204
            MVP
            • Sep 2008
            • 1164

            #3725
            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

            Originally posted by cjonesfan921
            Yes sir, Clifton.


            And to stay on topic, the players are ridiculous!
            I agree. I'm getting a little tired of them sounding like they're oppressed workers just fighting for a living wage. And I can't imagine that their stance is playing well in today's economic climate.
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            • TheMatrix31
              RF
              • Jul 2002
              • 52899

              #3726
              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

              The bottom line is we can't compare what they're arguing about to every day jobs and suffering in this economy. They're in a different league. Our money versus their money is a dumb thing to bring up. Just, completely different.

              Stern and the owners pissed me off with backing off the deadline. I get that they were negotiating by the time 5pm passed on Wednesday but they should have stuck to the deadline. That's the whole point. Get this done, negotiate, but if you don't accept by 5pm, then sorry, we're done here. It's bad form and makes the players think the owners are making idle threats. Which they clearly are if they're not sticking to their word.

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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #3727
                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                75k? Damn. That's all d leaguers get paid?

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                • jeremym480
                  Speak it into existence
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 18198

                  #3728
                  Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  75k? Damn. That's all d leaguers get paid?
                  That's all they get paid? How much money does a D-League team bring in? Serious question because I honestly don't know.
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                  • TN3LL
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 414

                    #3729
                    Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                    found this on realgm

                    Agents Fear New CBA Aims To Reduce Their Involvement
                    Nov 11, 2011 3:01 AM EST


                    Several agents believe the new collective bargaining agreement will diminish the amount of contact they have with teams.

                    "The agents represent a threat to the control of the owner and the team," said agent Mark Termini. "They want to just deal with the player. They're going to tell him what to do, where to go, when he's hurt, when he's not hurt, what doctor to go to, what's a good deal, what's a bad deal, when he's traded, what time to report.

                    "The agent gets involved in all of those decisions on behalf of the player and it's burdensome to the team. They don't like it. They'd like to eliminate that. So in these negotiations, as the options for the players become fewer and fewer, it has the hand-in-glove effect of reducing the role of the agent."

                    Bill Duffy was asked if he agrees with that statement, he said emphatically, "Without question."

                    Termini says there is less he can do for his clients than in the past before the new CBA of 1999.

                    "I used to have 10 tools in my toolbox," Termini said. "Now I'm down to one or two. I can still build a house for my client, but it won't be as nice and it will be just like all the rest in the neighborhood."

                    Via Cleveland Plan-Dealer


                    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1dRCt7v3b

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                    • yankeesgiants
                      I Drink Like A Champion!!
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2477

                      #3730
                      Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                      75k? Damn. That's all d leaguers get paid?
                      that about what triple A baseball players make as well as minor league hockey guys.
                      I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #3731
                        Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                        Originally posted by yankeesgiants
                        that about what triple A baseball players make as well as minor league hockey guys.
                        Had no idea....I mean its not awful or anything to play ball.......but im shocked at that number...

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                        • TN3LL
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 414

                          #3732
                          Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                          The NBA owners' new proposal to the league's locked-out players includes a clause giving teams the right to send a player down to the NBA Development League at any time during his first five years and pay him a severely-reduced contract while he's there, a source that has examined the proposal told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

                          That clause, which had previously not been disclosed, is one of several elements in the owners' proposal that prompted one agent to describe the deal as "draconian."

                          Any player sent down to the D-League would be paid at a pro-rated scale of $75,000 a season, which is slightly above the current D-League maximum but roughly one-sixth of the NBA minimum, the source said.

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52899

                            #3733
                            Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                            Simple then. Don't suck and you won't be sent down.

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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #3734
                              Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                              Man im actually not mad at these players stance, im really not....

                              if they want to lose money to fight what they believe in, by every means, fight for it....its not my money, wtf do I care...they have earned their salary, and have the right to fight for it as far as I am concerned.

                              when I say I am PRO BALL, I really am PRO BALL...and from a pro ball standpoint, I know both sides could have ended this by now....but greed is in the way. This has been so ridiculous man. lol

                              Just give me some NBA.
                              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 11-11-2011, 06:32 PM.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #3735
                                Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

                                Originally posted by TN3LL
                                The NBA owners' new proposal to the league's locked-out players includes a clause giving teams the right to send a player down to the NBA Development League at any time during his first five years and pay him a severely-reduced contract while he's there, a source that has examined the proposal told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

                                That clause, which had previously not been disclosed, is one of several elements in the owners' proposal that prompted one agent to describe the deal as "draconian."

                                Any player sent down to the D-League would be paid at a pro-rated scale of $75,000 a season, which is slightly above the current D-League maximum but roughly one-sixth of the NBA minimum, the source said.
                                Wow, thats ABOVE the maximum? I guess I thought they were better off than that. That less than what most on my floor make.

                                EDIT: nice edit Maytch

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