Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[a_maz_ing]

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This trade isn't great for LA at all. But.... considering they're destined for Howard too, that's where they win.

Really goes to reflect just how far I actually have fallen. If this happened a few years ago I would have been cussing up a storm and breaking things. Now? Lots of apathy and thoroughly resigned to the fact that Howard WILL be coming too. Not much to get angry about. That's just how it works and that's how desensitized I've gotten.

So then we will be like Miami with 3 bloated contracts and no support?
I prefer the 2 All-NBA players approach with other good starters and depth.

I understand the frustration, but it's crazy how low everyone thinks of Pau and Lamar. You think the Lakers went to three straight finals because of Kobe? Please. Kobe's been more distraction than anything. He isnt the same Kobe from before, and the LAkers have been forcing him to handle the ball. He isn't the Kobe from the 1st 3peat, I'd say its arguable that Kobe's impact on the last 3 finals has been less than it was in his first 3peat. Great credit is due to Lamar, Pau, and Bynum and it hurts to see Lamar and Pau hit the door.

I don't blame GSW or LAC for not trading for CP3 without the promise of next year. I think NO "front office" understands this pretty clearly. I still think we have to wait to see what NO Does with Pau and Lamar (whether running them for a bit or trading them for a new set of rims) before we see the full value of the trade (Marc Gasol anyone?).

I disagree with you on Kobe, I think Kobe has only gotten better, minus his athleticism. He is less of a ball hog and has more IQ and skills.

But am going to miss Odom and Pau, especially Pau.

This is such bull****. I guess the plan is to contract the Hornets within the next few years?

Oh, and just LOL at this:

The Lakers agreed to SURRENDER Pau and Odom. Ain't that some ****. Because yeah, it was really that hard of a decision to send two 30+ year old players, including one that apparently grows a vagina when the playoffs roll around, for a future HOF PG (albeit with a shoddy knee, but we all know that will magically heal itself now that dude is in Los Angeles).

Just hilarious. Thanks for wasting our time with that lockout, NBA.

EDIT: Also, I bet an infinite amount of fake internet money that Phil is back behind the bench before this season ends.

I stopped reading after you said Gasol had a vagina.

Is it me or what?

You're telling me that is a playoff team??? I guess I just don't know basketball.

Wow..

Because we have not seen worse teams make the playoffs in the Eastern conference...

FYI, that guy with the Vagina is the main reason the Lakers won the 2010 Finals. When their star was going 6-24 in the last game, he was their one who was their most consistent player in that series.

Not to mention that dude is a top 4 big man.

[BlueNGold]

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Looking through the West, there's 6 teams that are in the playoffs ahead of this post-Paul Hornets team (LAL, SA, DAL, MEM, OKC, and POR). So that NO team is basically battling with Denver, Utah, Houston, Phoenix, and maybe, MAYBE, the T-Wolves (I'm ruling out GSW and SAC).

I won't say this Hornets team can't or won't make the playoffs, but I don't like their chances. I like Monty Williams, but this is really going to test how good of a coach he is and it's just his second year.

[RedSceptile]

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Morey is not there for the Rockets to win

If he cared they would've kept Rudy Gay but decided to ditch him and Stro for Shane Battier whom they dont have now

Expect Pau to be used as trade bait for mid tier players in a year

Well I want expecting Rudy Gay to be that good but isn't a terrible move in hindsight there are worse. Isn't this the same draft the Bulls traded Cousin Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas? Where is Thomas now?

[1Rose]

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Can you tell me how this deal made sense from a Lakers point of view?

Wasn't there main advantage their backcourt size?

Sure you get probably the best pure PG in the league, but you lose the 6th man of the year and a perennial all-star PF who took a LOT of pressure off of Andrew Bynum. I'm still not sold on Bynum's ability to be the #1 guy down low. Also with Kobe's abilities diminishing before our eyes, this LA team is going to be right back at square one in the next 2-3 years.

This seems like a band aid for LA, because I think now that there is no way there are going to be able to get Dwight as well.

I read also that the Hornets and Rockets are working on a deal to bring Gasol to NO as well? Is this true?

If so, they immediately become deeper than the Lakers.

[OSUFan_88]

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So what are they a poor man's Rockets team?

Basically thats what they are

If Houston had good defense and one of the best 6th men in the NBA.

So they are actually a better version of the Rockets. And they have a good coach.

[Cuse 15]

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I hope Eric Gordon becomes a star, because all 20 clipper fans will riot if he doesn't

[Fiasco West]

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Good luck with Martin NOH.

The guy can score 20+ every night but his defense makes it all irrelevant...Scola isn't as bad, but at least he puts effort into trying.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Don't forget about Jack off the bench. That team is actually deeper than the Lakers right now.

And with that^...I'm done folks.

[23]

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Well I want expecting Rudy Gay to be that good but isn't a terrible move in hindsight there are worse. Isn't this the same draft the Bulls traded Cousin Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas? Where is Thomas now?

I dont know where you're getting with the bulls talk but the Rockets screwed up trading Rudy Gay period, it has nothing to do with Chicago

What do they have to show for it? He was a franchise type core player they gave away

[Drewski]

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So then we will be like Miami with 3 bloated contracts and no support?
I prefer the 2 All-NBA players approach with other good starters and depth.


I disagree with you on Kobe, I think Kobe has only gotten better, minus his athleticism. He is less of a ball hog and has more IQ and skills.

But am going to miss Odom and Pau, especially Pau.



I stopped reading after you said Gasol had a vagina.


Because we have not seen worse teams make the playoffs in the Eastern conference...



Not to mention that dude is a top 4 big man.

I agree he is more skilled and has a much higher IQ now but at this point he should not be handling the ball. His IQ is MUCH better used off the ball, picking apart defenses threw off the ball movement and well set screens.

[OSUFan_88]

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Looking through the West, there's 6 teams that are in the playoffs ahead of this post-Paul Hornets team (LAL, SA, DAL, MEM, OKC, and POR). So that NO team is basically battling with Denver, Utah, Houston, Phoenix, and maybe, MAYBE, the T-Wolves (I'm ruling out GSW and SAC).

I won't say this Hornets team can't or won't make the playoffs, but I don't like their chances. I like Monty Williams, but this is really going to test how good of a coach he is and it's just his second year.

You forgot the Clippers.

outside of that, which of those teams are better? Maybe the Suns? Half of Denver's team is in China, Utah blows, Houston just traded half their starting lineup for Gasol, and the T Wolves...idk.

[a_maz_ing]

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How is that a good thing? It's basically saying to the fans of the 24-26 other teams "hey, we appreciate you being in the league and all, but you're not going to be a championship contender and probably never will be". How can you be a Bucks/Raptors/Bobcats/Pacers/etc. fan and have a positive outlook when you know you're likely never ever going to see a championship team because the league has set things up to stack the deck completely against you.

And I'm not sleeping on OKC/Memphis, I'm just saying it's going to be ridiculously hard for them to get additional long term help because nobody wants to play there. For every Kevin Durant you have that just wants to play basketball regardless of where, you have 20 guys likes LeBron and Carmelo who feel like they can only succeed in "big markets".

I never said it was good, I'm just saying it is not new, so I don't see the outrage some people are having over this.

For now yea, OKC/Memphis aren't hot spots, but if one of them win a ring and routinely go deep in the playoffs, I think in todays NBA someone would swallow their pride and go to OKC or memphis. Espcially if KD turns into a top 3 player.

EDIT: sorry, i forgot the Hornets were in the West.

[ggsimmonds]

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Kobe doesn't operate efficiently with the ball in his hands. Let work off the ball, crash through D12 screens, and have Chris Paul working the magic with the ball. Will let Kobe get free from those same screens, and have a guy who can actually get him the ball and/or score on his own play making. + it lets Kobe get into post position as opposed to having to try and iso through someone, or take a ridiculous turn around, or have to try and fight while handling the ball to get into the post.

You are assuming they land Dwight (which is a safe assumption) but as of now I think they are worse off.
I disagree that Kobe is worse with the ball. He has never been a great off ball guy. Him running through screens? For what? Spot up jumpers? That is not Kobe's game. Great, they now have Chris Paul who can skillfully pass the ball to Kobe in the high post.

So Paul may work his "magic," maybe but I prefer the magic of the Kobe/Pau pick and roll. well thats gone. LA better get Dwight.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Looking through the West, there's 6 teams that are in the playoffs ahead of this post-Paul Hornets team (LAL, SA, DAL, MEM, OKC, and POR). So that NO team is basically battling with Denver, Utah, Houston, Phoenix, and maybe, MAYBE, the T-Wolves (I'm ruling out GSW and SAC).

I won't say this Hornets team can't or won't make the playoffs, but I don't like their chances. I like Monty Williams, but this is really going to test how good of a coach he is and it's just his second year.

A smaller, less athletic version of the Atlanta Hawks.

But hey, if people consider that good nowadays(especially with how we witnessed their play in the last few years)then oh well.

[OSUFan_88]

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Apparently the reason Houston did this was to sign Nene.

Wow. Really?