Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[aholbert32]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

You're right. Odom's in the prime of his career and teams are just salivating to pry him away from the Lakers...

And the only reason the Wiz were able to trade Arenas was because he would've shot up DC and the Magic were trying to get rid of their own sack of wasted money in Rashard Lewis.

This wasn't "let's pair up our MVP Center with one of the finest PGs in the league". It was like a cash version of Wife Swap.



Dude...that's rape. The only rumblings I've heard from out of Laker land is that everyone is available except for Kobe.

You guys don't wanna give up Pau.

If Kobe comes out with an interview tomorrow saying F' Pau...you guys are gonna be in here switching from Odom/Artest/trash to Pau.

Only in you guys minds is Arenas tradeable.

Matter of fact...I hope you guys do land Arenas. I hope you land Arenas and he stays on your books for $60M.

It would serve you right.

LOL. I'm done. See this is the reason why there were plans to shut this forum down a few years back. Just complete nonsense. "He was traded because he wouldve shot up DC." LOL. Just absolute nonsense.

Its much easier for cats here to rely on the "you are biased" arguments than actually make sensible arguments. There are plenty of people here who have made reasoned arguments to back up their points in this thread. I disagree with some of them but I can respect their point. But this **** above? Jesus.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

You said you can continue to believe that the Lakers are a desired destination. Historically they have been, what's your point?

I said you can continue to believe they were the best spot in the context of this situation, but nice try.

[aholbert32]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Wojo -

New Orleans strongly engaged with Clippers, Warriors and Celtics in trade talks for Chris Paul on Tuesday, league sources tell Y!

[aholbert32]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Paul has indicated Clippers and Warriors could raise chances of keeping him long-term if they sign center Tyson Chandler too, sources say.

[Jasong7777]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

I will be glad when all this is settled...................and the Lakers have Dwight Howard.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The Lakers will and Arenas will actually be an upgrade at the point. You think the Buss family cares about Arenas if it lands them DWIGHT HOWARD? Yeah guys deals off, we can't take Gilbert Arenas. Please. This is actually one of the FEW ways the Lakers can get an upgrade at the point. And you dont think Gilbert would show up ready to work at his game and have an opportunity to get a few rings with Kobe/Pau/Dwight? Come on.

Only thing that would stop the Magic from tying Arenas to Dwight is poor negotiating and business savvy.

Going off past history, hell no

And the fact that he'd be going back home? Oh I'd expect more foolishness from him

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Paul has indicated Clippers and Warriors could raise chances of keeping him long-term if they sign center Tyson Chandler too, sources say.

Another one of these "package deals" type eh? LOL

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

LOL. I'm done. See this is the reason why there were plans to shut this forum down a few years back. Just complete nonsense. "He was traded because he wouldve shot up DC." LOL. Just absolute nonsense.

Its much easier for cats here to rely on the "you are biased" arguments than actually make sensible arguments. There are plenty of people here who have made reasoned arguments to back up their points in this thread. I disagree with some of them but I can respect their point. But this **** above? Jesus.

Though his analogy may have been over the top, he was 100% correct on the trade of Lewis for Agent 0. This trade was made as a straight player swap. Which ended up back firing more on Otis Smith than it did Washington

[TheMatrix31]

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Didn't they just have a lockout partially so this exact thing wouldn't happen again? Now it's the first thing someone is trying to make happen.

Absolutely insane.

The players have all the teams hostage and its getting worse and worse. It's pathetic.

[bigeastbumrush]

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The Lakers will and Arenas will actually be an upgrade at the point. You think the Buss family cares about Arenas if it lands them DWIGHT HOWARD? Yeah guys deals off, we can't take Gilbert Arenas. Please. This is actually one of the FEW ways the Lakers can get an upgrade at the point. And you dont think Gilbert would show up ready to work at his game and have an opportunity to get a few rings with Kobe/Pau/Dwight? Come on.

Only thing that would stop the Magic from tying Arenas to Dwight is poor negotiating and business savvy.

To answer your question - No.

Because you want it all. You really think the Lakers should have
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Paul Gasol
AND
Gilbert Arenas

I understand wanting the best for your team, but that's just not financially possible. Seriously.

LOL. I'm done. See this is the reason why there were plans to shut this forum down a few years back. Just complete nonsense. "He was traded because he wouldve shot up DC." LOL. Just absolute nonsense.

Its much easier for cats here to rely on the "you are biased" arguments than actually make sensible arguments. There are plenty of people here who have made reasoned arguments to back up their points in this thread. I disagree with some of them but I can respect their point. But this **** above? Jesus.

And I addressed your points. It has nothing to do with the forum.

I'd like to see where the Lakers GM has said he'd take on Gilbert Arenas contract besides here.

You guys think Bynum & Odom straight up for Howard is a good deal. Unless Dwight forces Otis Smith to deal him to LA, there's no way they're giving him up without asking for Gasol. Bynum & Odom is not enough.

[Drewski]

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Though his analogy may have been over the top, he was 100% correct on the trade of Lewis for Agent 0. This trade was made as a straight player swap. Which ended up back firing more on Otis Smith than it did Washington

False.

This was not a straight player swap. Unless you consider $20 million dollars nothing.

This was Otis Smith getting punked by the Wizards front office. The Wizards effectively saved almost $20 million by swapping Arenas and Lewis.

Rashard Lewis
$22.1
$23.7
----
$45.8

Gilbert Arenas
$19.2
$20.8
$22.3
----
$62.6

That's purely considering the finances, not the basketball on the court.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Bad contract for bad contract.

It's like saying my Pit Bull's big, gigantic poop smells worse than your little Chichuahua's small poops. Either way, they both smell bad lol.

But it doesn't mean that one hustled the other or whatever though.

[Drewski]

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[quote]

To answer your question - No.

Because you want it all. You really think the Lakers should have
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
Paul Gasol
AND
Gilbert Arenas

I understand wanting the best for your team, but that's just not financially possible. Seriously.

It's financially possible for a team that has generated revenue throughout their history the way the Lakers have. As far as league regulations - it's already pretty darn close straight up that way. Lakers would still have about $5 million against the hard cap - but Kupchak would find a way to fix that (actually, if Luke retires/is amnestied then they'd fit almost PERFECT, his contract is $5.6 million this year).

And I addressed your points. It has nothing to do with the forum.

I'd like to see where the Lakers GM has said he'd take on Gilbert Arenas contract besides here.

You guys think Bynum & Odom straight up for Howard is a good deal. Unless Dwight forces Otis Smith to deal him to LA, there's no way they're giving him up without asking for Gasol. Bynum & Odom is not enough.

There's no scenario where the Lakers turn down Howard because of Gilbert Arenas.

Bynum+Odom+Artest for Dwight+Arenas. Magic clear out one of the worst contracts ever, receive three pieces. Probably a pick. I'd say that's a solid deal for a team destined to lose Dwight. Only team right now that's even close to it is the Nets.

[Drewski]

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Bad contract for bad contract.

It's like saying my Pit Bull's big, gigantic poop smells worse than your little Chichuahua's small poops. Either way, they both smell bad lol.

But it doesn't mean that one hustled the other or whatever though.

Then I guess I see why the lockout happened, owners not caring about the $20 million net they lost in a trade for a guy their team didn't even like in the rotation.

[bigfnjoe96]

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False.

This was not a straight player swap. Unless you consider $20 million dollars nothing.

This was Otis Smith getting punked by the Wizards front office. The Wizards effectively saved almost $20 million by swapping Arenas and Lewis.

Rashard Lewis
$22.1
$23.7
----
$45.8

Gilbert Arenas
$19.2
$20.8
$22.3
----
$62.6

That's purely considering the finances, not the basketball on the court.

Come-on man, It wasn't just about money... Both players needed a change, not to mention both teams needed the player they got.

Agent O as a back-up PG to Jameer & RL as their starting SF. So to say it was a money thing is FALSE