Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[goh]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Where does Deron think his millions of dollars come from? Said it before I'll probably say it again,owners were wwwwaaaayyyy too accommodating during the lockout.

[JaySmooov]

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Lol make it simple and put him on your ignore list..

Yeah, but I don't want to because he's making good points. I just have to look through the Laker bias to get to them. And I'm just tired of all these delusional rants about how great Kobe and Dwight would be or how great CP3, Kobe, and Bynum would be.

[Jasong7777]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Come on yall.

[1Rose]

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So what you they wouldn't make the playoffs together or something? They would play great together and stack alot of wins (tear through the league). Never said it's a title lock it up. People so sensational around here with their one or two sentences that provide none of their own insight.

Really?

This is coming from the guy, who when talking about the future of the Lakers, says..."Mitch will get something done, Mitch will do this, Mitch will do that."

It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

Not sure what FA market you're looking at, unless you have a crystal ball to see in to the future, but the help ain't there my friend.

Bulls package is alright but not thrilling.

If the Bulls were actively pushing, they'd already be ahead of the Nets, and would be close to the Lakers' package. Seems unlikely the Nets would have the assets if Mitch puts Gasol/Bynum/1sts out there.

Come on now. Now it's getting ridiculous.

The Bulls can top anything the Lakers have to offer. Period.

[TomZeWolf]

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Let me get this right

Delusional rant about how CP3 would benefit the Lakers in a trade that they've been discussing for the last 24 hours?

Or delusional speculation on how this trade will or wont happen? Seems like I'm talking basketball while you're talking speculation.

Just saying.

The same trade that is supposedly called off. Just move on. I've been lurking this thread for a while now and I'm fed up as all I've seen is speculation from you regarding how good CP3 and Kobe would be, that's not talking basketball, I take that as pipedream speculation. It doesn't look like it is happening now, so let it go.

[JaySmooov]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Let me get this right

Delusional rant about how CP3 would benefit the Lakers in a trade that they've been discussing for the last 24 hours?

Or delusional speculation on how this trade will or wont happen? Seems like I'm talking basketball while you're talking speculation.

Just saying.

That's the problem. You're talking "basketball" in a transaction/free agent thread. What, are we NOT supposed to speculate where JJ Barea, Rip Hamilton, or Jamal Crawford are going to end up?

Oh, that's right. You would rather us talk about your "love jones" for the Lakers.

[1Rose]

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Wouldn't thinking Dwight is going to the Lakers fall under "delusional speculation"?

[JaySmooov]

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Really?

This is coming from the guy, who when talking about the future of the Lakers, says..."Mitch will get something done, Mitch will do this, Mitch will do that."

It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

Not sure what FA market you're looking at, unless you have a crystal ball to see in to the future, but they help ain't there my friend.


Come on now. Now it's getting ridiculous.

The Bulls can top anything the Lakers have to offer. Period.

LOL Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson alone is better than whatever the Lakers and Nets can offer. Only problem is, would Dwight want to come to Chicago? We'd have to sell him on it, but I think it's possible if Derrick would lay off the humble pie and get involved.

[bigfnjoe96]

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[a_maz_ing]

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Wrong, especially when Kobe is 33 yrs. old and they'd only be able to surround with scrubs. It would be wonderful to see Lakers ruin the team for just Dwight Howard. People seem to forget that the Lakers were irrelevant throughout the mid-1970's and entire 1990's. I wouldn't be suprised if they become a non-playoff team when Kobe retires. That's also dependant upon anyone gift wrapping them a star.

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LOL so the Lakers were bad 3 seasons in the 70s, 73,74,75 and the 75th season we had the MVP player. And the irrelevant throughout the entire 1990s? LA made 2 finals (winning 1), made another conf finals, only missed the playoffs once, made 3 other semis, 2 other first rounds, and missed it once. So if you want to count no playoffs or no playoff series wins as irrelevant, then we were only irrelevant, 3 seasons dude...
Your statement about LA being irrelevant through the ENITRE 1990s is false.

David A said it on NBA tv. Said the Magic didn't think Lopez and two first round picks was enough for Dwight.

So they agree with me...no surprise.

You're telling me the Lakers don't have bad deals on their books? I won't even waste time name-dropping the waste of players on the Lakers roster.

And by front office...I should have specified: in making trades, especially multiple team/player trades.

The Nets front office is far superior in that regard.

Heck, they pulled of the DWill trade without anyone in the league knowing.

none worse than that crappy outlaw deal. 5 years, $35million, for him? 2nd worse deal last summer. Our only bad deal is Luke Walton.

And that Dwill trade won't look so good if he leaves next summer. Gambling on a superstar who may or may not sign an extension isn't exactly genius.

I'm really not feeling McRoberts for Mayo S&T. I know Memphis wants another frontcourt body, but it doesn't seem like a good swap to me.

What is Memphis's obessesion with McRoberts???

If they wanted a foward for OJ Mayo, they should have traded him to LA for Odom. Or vice versa.

Well they already gave Rudy Gay a max deal. I believe ZBO is getting paid near max money, they probably couldn't afford to give Marc max money and he doesn't deserve that one bit.

I don't think so my brotha. Granger would have to be included in any deal. Plus a lot of draft picks. I don't think it's realistic after thinking about it. Indy would have to gut their team, but do you think CP3 would sign an extension?

If so they made a mistake, they should have kept Gasol over ZBO....

I'm not sure what your getting at....I said i don't believe Kobe is going to be able to take over games like he used to

It doesn't mean he's going to be a scrub it just means his team is going to need some one else to have that ability more often then in years past

I don't think the Lakers are a great team with Kobe and Dwight...they will be a good team but i don't think they are great team with just those two guys.

Your exact words were "Kobe won't be taking over any more games anymore. Don't change your mind now.

And here we go again with ONLY Kobe and Dwight...

for an outside team yep.. Griz could have offered 5 years 70 something million


This would be an easy match, kinda doing us a favor

How? forcing u to overpay him when yall might have been able to give him a more reasonable deal.

he signed up for it right?

I don't feel sorry for these guys....i don't see Duncan or Dirk crying foul or complaining to management about who's left on the roster

These guys should know when you sign a NBA contract there is a strong chance your team is going to suck at some point.

You can't just break the contract because your team sucks now or you boi is playing in New York

Why on earth would 4 time NBA champ Duncan complain? He has had a great career and is allegedly retiring soon, as long as they compete of course he won't complain.

He made the playoffs with the exact same roster last year. Who's wasting away?

Wasting away as in not a real contender.

I don't believe it makes much of a difference, especially when you're not receiving an equally talented player in the deal. Denver is in a rebuilding stage too, but they got to keep a couple of role players.

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Really? your best player leaving for nothing is the same as you getting something back for your best player...sure

[Boltman]

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Not sure what FA market you're looking at, unless you have a crystal ball to see in to the future, but the help ain't there my friend.


Come on now. Now it's getting ridiculous.

The Bulls can top anything the Lakers have to offer. Period.

[bostonsports]

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Is cp3 rumors to la back on? or is that homer drewski just making more and more stuff up?

[aholbert32]

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Wouldn't thinking Dwight is going to the Lakers fall under "delusional speculation"?

Not when multiple NBA reporters are claiming that the Lakers are going to take a shot at trading for him.

[a_maz_ing]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Look bruh, CP3 is not - IS NOT - coming to LA. Get that through your head.

Dwight is not coming to LA if they're gonna offer an injury prone center who might reach his potential, and a 31-year-old PF who needs someone else for him to reach optimal effectiveness. OK?

I understand you love your Lakers, but I'm tired of all these delusional rants about how CP3 will do this and that for the Lakers, and how Dwight and Kobe would "tear through the league."

Can you PLEASE move on, or actually leave the Laker bias at home and contribute to the conversation in a sensible way? A couple people here are tired of you going on and on about something that isn't even close to happening.

I'm not going to act like I watched Gasol in Memphis but his stats didn't drastically increase when he got to LA, so i don't agree with this statement...

and I think yall have it out for Drewski, he seems to be the only person not allowed to make speculation and everything else he says, even when he is right, gets completely ignored.

[JaySmooov]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW, REGARDING DWIGHT HOWARD AND CHRIS PAUL

• The Lakers pulled out of the CP3 deal, and will not be revisiting it anytime soon. They are focusing their resources on Dwight Howard.
  
• The Lakers reportedly will NOT trade Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum to Orlando.
  
• Orlando doesn't think the Nets' offer of Brook Lopez and 2 first round picks is substantial enough. No real surprise here.
  
• It has been reported that the Nets would need to get a third or fourth team involved, though sources (Billy King?) have stated it would NOT be a problem. (According to what I've read here, this seems to be King's MO?)
  
• Otis Smith has stated he will talk to all other 29 teams. The Bulls, per the Tribune, have stated they will talk to the Magic about Dwight.
  
• The LA Clippers are the current front-runners for CP3.

If above is all true, which it should be, then we KNOW CP3 is not going to LA as of now. This means we can stop the rants about how good CP3 would look with Kobe.

We also know that both LA and the Nets have to go back to the drawing board regarding their offers for Dwight, and other teams are expected to jump in, including the Bulls.

So can we SERIOUSLY stop debating how good of a mid-range jumpshooter Kobe is or isn't, and get refocused? I mean, I'm not a moderator or whatever, but I want to discuss transactions, not who's the best player in the league. I'll go start a debate with the guys down the street if I wanted that.