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  • RocketTMac1
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    • Sep 2006
    • 1864

    #2941
    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Ahh, OK fair enough. The media is the media, no surprise there.

    As far as MKG and Iggy, out of college I feel like Iggy was a run and jump athlete who played above the rim and in transition. I don't see MKG as that run and jump guy, but I do think MKG thrives in transition as opposed to half court..
    You also have to look at where they played. Iggy played at Arizona where they rely on guys running all day. If MKG was the man on a college team that ran up and down like Zona then he would have been the undisputed #2 guy. Remember Zona's system made Hassan Adams look crazy athletic. I'm a Zona fan by the way lol.
    The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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    • Checmate101
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      • Mar 2006
      • 9947

      #2942
      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

      Originally posted by OSUFan_88
      Some more thoughts:

      Wizards gonna be great in about two years. They have a very solid team. Finally some smart drafting.

      Sac-Town lucked into Robinson. Good for them, bad for Thomas. Robinson and Cousins could be a very good duo in the future.

      Harrison Barnes at GSW is just a weird fit.

      Lillard...meh. I think the Blazers could have done better.

      Terrance Ross was a HUGE HUGE HUGE reach in the top 10. And why Toronto? They think he can play SF? Odd pick.

      I love and hate Drummond to Detroit. I think he and Monroe are a perfect fit for each other and I hate it that the Cavs are in the same division as them.

      Hornets were obvious winners of the draft. They got a good play making SG and the best PF prospect to come out since Bosh, IMO. Some serious talent coming out there.

      Houston...I have no idea what you are doing. Royce White AND Terrance Jones? I guess they are praying one of those guys hit and they get a PF. I don't know, but man...that's a gamble.

      Best pick out of the top ten? I think it's Kendall Marshall to Phoenix. What a perfect freaking fit. If they could get Nash to finish his career with the Suns and mentor Kendall, then I'd REALLY love that pick. Run and Gun Suns will continue. Awesome.

      Still can't believe Moe Harkless was drafted at 15. Miles Plumlee in the first damn round? Wowzers.


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      • OSUFan_88
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        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #2943
        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by BurnsideAdmiral
        I have a feeling Zeller will get man handled by Drummond. However, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and hold out yet and say, I'm excited to see this battle because before the draft I was in the camp that we take Barnes and move up to get Drummond or take Drummond and move back up for a wing. So I'm upset we didn't get him, I hope Zeller can show his worth.
        Drummond is probably going to get hurt by Zeller early in his career. Drummond has a TON of work to do.
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        • ex carrabba fan
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          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #2944
          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          Cleveland didn't trade up to get Waiters though, did they?
          Ah I'm sorry, I meant the other trade, for Zeller.

          With Waiters, what I said still goes. They really wanted this guy and had to make sure nobody else got him. So trading down might have been risky.

          Two years of questionable picks in Tristan and now Waites/Zeller... we shall see.

          Like I said, I don't particularly like the group they got, but I won't be mad at them for their choices... they feel like they have a plan and I can't be mad at their supposed logic

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          • Checmate101
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            • Mar 2006
            • 9947

            #2945
            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

            Also..really think Boston had a good draft to, hopefully Sully back won't give out, because I think he'll be a good player
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            • OSUFan_88
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              • Jul 2004
              • 25642

              #2946
              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

              I think it's funny the Celtics took the two guys I absolutely DIDN'T want.

              Sullinger can play the bench scorer, which is good. Melo...can be tall...which is what Boston needs...so...that's good?
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              • ex carrabba fan
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                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #2947
                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by RocketTMac1
                You also have to look at where they played. Iggy played at Arizona where they rely on guys running all day. If MKG was the man on a college team that ran up and down like Zona then he would have been the undisputed #2 guy. Remember Zona's system made Hassan Adams look crazy athletic. I'm a Zona fan by the way lol.
                Hassan Adams! Damn, blast from the past. My guy was Salim Stoudamire and Will Bynum back in the day.

                Anyway, just to comment, I'm strictly talking skill set and physical attributes and tendencies... not necessarily a system. Coach Cal is all about transition and attack all day... Just comparing MKG directly to Iggy, I think is tough because of Iggy's exceptional physical abilities. MKG is a solid athlete but I think is a bit below Iggy in that department. But the similarities are there defensively I suppose... and the fact that they need to prove they can function in a half court offense.

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                • BleacherBum2310
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 7107

                  #2948
                  Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                  I liked it as well. The injury red flags that Sullinger reportedly has is fairly common. They just need to monitor it. And Melo is a Rim Protector and a good defensive player, to put those guys along side next to most likely KG is good. Don't think Size will be an issue next year.
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                  • jhawk826
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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 135

                    #2949
                    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                    Taken from Dime's biggest draft losers:

                    1. MICHAEL JORDAN
                    Michael Jordan just can’t draft a team. His Airness is a loser and nobody should be surprised by this. Maybe Michael Kidd-Gilchrist reminded him of Scottie Pippen. But why draft Pip first when there’s no Mike anywhere any sight? The Charlotte Bobcats were dead last in the NBA in points per game, averaging just under 87 a game. As much as defense is important to win a ‘ship, scoring is what gets you there, first and foremost. There’s currently a premium on finding players that can get their own buckets. Jordan dismissed Bradley Beal as the next best player available, and wasn’t able to pull the trigger on a trade to perhaps land someone as nice as James Harden. In a league where perimeter players rule, the Bobcats now have the shortest backcourt with D.J. Augustin, Kemba Walker, Ben Gordon, and you can thrown in Kidd-Gilchrist, too. Jordan just placed tremendous pressure on a glue guy to be one of the franchise’s saviors. As much as Kidd-Gilchrist is pegged as a cat that somehow can change a team’s culture, that begins and ends with those at the top. And Jordan has failed yet again to evaluate talent and maximize the few assets he’s had to definitively alter the course of his team.
                    What is Houston's obsession with small forwards? Besides the Jeremy Lamb pick, this wasn't a good draft for them. Royce White and Terrence Jones?

                    Two years of questionable picks in Tristan and now Waites/Zeller... we shall see.
                    The verdict is still out on Waiters/Zeller. I don't think Tristan Thompson was a good pick period at #4. He wasn't mind blowing at Texas and goes to show how weak the talent pool was last year.
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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #2950
                      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                      I loved getting Doron Lamb in the 2nd round for Milwaukee. Henson at 14 made me cry; Lamb made me squeal like a little girl.

                      My only prayer regarding Henson is the fact that Chris Bosh is only 10 pounds heavier than Henson and he can at least hold his own at the PF position, so maybe Henson can, right? Right?!
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                      • RocketTMac1
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1864

                        #2951
                        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        Hassan Adams! Damn, blast from the past. My guy was Salim Stoudamire and Will Bynum back in the day.

                        Anyway, just to comment, I'm strictly talking skill set and physical attributes and tendencies... not necessarily a system. Coach Cal is all about transition and attack all day... Just comparing MKG directly to Iggy, I think is tough because of Iggy's exceptional physical abilities. MKG is a solid athlete but I think is a bit below Iggy in that department. But the similarities are there defensively I suppose... and the fact that they need to prove they can function in a half court offense.
                        True, but I just think MKG is getting short handed. I'm not saying he will beast the NBA but those two careers will look very similar. Iggy struggled with the jump shot and so does MKG. Plus the kid is only 18. That's plenty of room to grow
                        The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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                        • DukeC
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                          • Jul 2011
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                          #2952
                          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                          Well, it's not like the Bobcats were terribly good at defense either. But, with the addition of MKG and Jeff Taylor (who CAN shoot) they can at least slow down the oppositions best wing player.

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                          • bigeastbumrush
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19245

                            #2953
                            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                            Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                            Best pick out of the top ten? I think it's Kendall Marshall to Phoenix. What a perfect freaking fit. If they could get Nash to finish his career with the Suns and mentor Kendall, then I'd REALLY love that pick. Run and Gun Suns will continue. Awesome.
                            That's the thing.

                            Kendall isn't a Run & Gun PG. He's a great passer, not a good shooter.

                            I'm still not convinced PHX is a good fit for him. And I like him as a player.

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                            • RocketTMac1
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1864

                              #2954
                              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                              Exactly and they are both athletic. Quality draft and we should be better
                              The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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                              • Weeks
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                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2990

                                #2955
                                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                                I think Marquis Teague may be a better NBA player then he was a college player. His strengths are speed and breaking down defenders one on one with his handles, which I think will translate better to the faster more open NBA game instead of the slower zones defenses of college.

                                Also I was reading this on Bill Simmons draft day recap, what if last year the Cavs drafted Valanciunas and stored him over seas instead of Thompson, and this year they got Thomas Robinson who is a better version of Thompson.

                                Instead of Irving, Waiters, Thompson, and Zeller they could have had Irving, Robinson, Valanciunas, and then they probably could of traded their picks and a player for a wing scorer (lamb maybe?).

                                Now if waiters pans out and really becomes D-Wade like, then they are viewed as genius.
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