You also have to look at where they played. Iggy played at Arizona where they rely on guys running all day. If MKG was the man on a college team that ran up and down like Zona then he would have been the undisputed #2 guy. Remember Zona's system made Hassan Adams look crazy athletic. I'm a Zona fan by the way lol.
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You also have to look at where they played. Iggy played at Arizona where they rely on guys running all day. If MKG was the man on a college team that ran up and down like Zona then he would have been the undisputed #2 guy. Remember Zona's system made Hassan Adams look crazy athletic. I'm a Zona fan by the way lol.The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man. -
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Wizards gonna be great in about two years. They have a very solid team. Finally some smart drafting.
Sac-Town lucked into Robinson. Good for them, bad for Thomas. Robinson and Cousins could be a very good duo in the future.
Harrison Barnes at GSW is just a weird fit.
Lillard...meh. I think the Blazers could have done better.
Terrance Ross was a HUGE HUGE HUGE reach in the top 10. And why Toronto? They think he can play SF? Odd pick.
I love and hate Drummond to Detroit. I think he and Monroe are a perfect fit for each other and I hate it that the Cavs are in the same division as them.
Hornets were obvious winners of the draft. They got a good play making SG and the best PF prospect to come out since Bosh, IMO. Some serious talent coming out there.
Houston...I have no idea what you are doing. Royce White AND Terrance Jones? I guess they are praying one of those guys hit and they get a PF. I don't know, but man...that's a gamble.
Best pick out of the top ten? I think it's Kendall Marshall to Phoenix. What a perfect freaking fit. If they could get Nash to finish his career with the Suns and mentor Kendall, then I'd REALLY love that pick. Run and Gun Suns will continue. Awesome.
Still can't believe Moe Harkless was drafted at 15. Miles Plumlee in the first damn round? Wowzers.
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I have a feeling Zeller will get man handled by Drummond. However, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and hold out yet and say, I'm excited to see this battle because before the draft I was in the camp that we take Barnes and move up to get Drummond or take Drummond and move back up for a wing. So I'm upset we didn't get him, I hope Zeller can show his worth.Too Old To Game Club
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Ah I'm sorry, I meant the other trade, for Zeller.
With Waiters, what I said still goes. They really wanted this guy and had to make sure nobody else got him. So trading down might have been risky.
Two years of questionable picks in Tristan and now Waites/Zeller... we shall see.
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Also..really think Boston had a good draft to, hopefully Sully back won't give out, because I think he'll be a good playerWashington Redskins
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I think it's funny the Celtics took the two guys I absolutely DIDN'T want.
Sullinger can play the bench scorer, which is good. Melo...can be tall...which is what Boston needs...so...that's good?Too Old To Game Club
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You also have to look at where they played. Iggy played at Arizona where they rely on guys running all day. If MKG was the man on a college team that ran up and down like Zona then he would have been the undisputed #2 guy. Remember Zona's system made Hassan Adams look crazy athletic. I'm a Zona fan by the way lol.
Anyway, just to comment, I'm strictly talking skill set and physical attributes and tendencies... not necessarily a system. Coach Cal is all about transition and attack all day... Just comparing MKG directly to Iggy, I think is tough because of Iggy's exceptional physical abilities. MKG is a solid athlete but I think is a bit below Iggy in that department. But the similarities are there defensively I suppose... and the fact that they need to prove they can function in a half court offense.Comment
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I liked it as well. The injury red flags that Sullinger reportedly has is fairly common. They just need to monitor it. And Melo is a Rim Protector and a good defensive player, to put those guys along side next to most likely KG is good. Don't think Size will be an issue next year.Wolverines Packers Cubs Celtics
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Taken from Dime's biggest draft losers:
1. MICHAEL JORDAN
Michael Jordan just can’t draft a team. His Airness is a loser and nobody should be surprised by this. Maybe Michael Kidd-Gilchrist reminded him of Scottie Pippen. But why draft Pip first when there’s no Mike anywhere any sight? The Charlotte Bobcats were dead last in the NBA in points per game, averaging just under 87 a game. As much as defense is important to win a ‘ship, scoring is what gets you there, first and foremost. There’s currently a premium on finding players that can get their own buckets. Jordan dismissed Bradley Beal as the next best player available, and wasn’t able to pull the trigger on a trade to perhaps land someone as nice as James Harden. In a league where perimeter players rule, the Bobcats now have the shortest backcourt with D.J. Augustin, Kemba Walker, Ben Gordon, and you can thrown in Kidd-Gilchrist, too. Jordan just placed tremendous pressure on a glue guy to be one of the franchise’s saviors. As much as Kidd-Gilchrist is pegged as a cat that somehow can change a team’s culture, that begins and ends with those at the top. And Jordan has failed yet again to evaluate talent and maximize the few assets he’s had to definitively alter the course of his team.
Two years of questionable picks in Tristan and now Waites/Zeller... we shall see.Last edited by jhawk826; 06-29-2012, 11:02 AM.NCAA BB: Syracuse Orange
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I loved getting Doron Lamb in the 2nd round for Milwaukee. Henson at 14 made me cry; Lamb made me squeal like a little girl.
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Hassan Adams! Damn, blast from the past. My guy was Salim Stoudamire and Will Bynum back in the day.
Anyway, just to comment, I'm strictly talking skill set and physical attributes and tendencies... not necessarily a system. Coach Cal is all about transition and attack all day... Just comparing MKG directly to Iggy, I think is tough because of Iggy's exceptional physical abilities. MKG is a solid athlete but I think is a bit below Iggy in that department. But the similarities are there defensively I suppose... and the fact that they need to prove they can function in a half court offense.The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.Comment
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Kendall isn't a Run & Gun PG. He's a great passer, not a good shooter.
I'm still not convinced PHX is a good fit for him. And I like him as a player.Comment
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Exactly and they are both athletic. Quality draft and we should be betterThe Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.Comment
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I think Marquis Teague may be a better NBA player then he was a college player. His strengths are speed and breaking down defenders one on one with his handles, which I think will translate better to the faster more open NBA game instead of the slower zones defenses of college.
Also I was reading this on Bill Simmons draft day recap, what if last year the Cavs drafted Valanciunas and stored him over seas instead of Thompson, and this year they got Thomas Robinson who is a better version of Thompson.
Instead of Irving, Waiters, Thompson, and Zeller they could have had Irving, Robinson, Valanciunas, and then they probably could of traded their picks and a player for a wing scorer (lamb maybe?).
Now if waiters pans out and really becomes D-Wade like, then they are viewed as genius.Chicago Bulls
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