****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

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  • BringTheHeat
    MVP
    • Jan 2012
    • 2264

    #2071
    Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    Really my man? You gonna look at that video that 23 posted and asked what he did wrong? You are allowed to move freely along the sideline down to the hash mark, but you can't just be on the damn court in bounds during play.
    Nah I saw that and I agree the game as a whole was poorly officiated but I don't see the big deal with that play specifically. Now that reverse lay-up and 1...

    If Russ would've hit him it wouldv'e been a T
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    • King_B_Mack
      All Star
      • Jan 2009
      • 24450

      #2072
      Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

      Originally posted by BringTheHeat
      Nah I saw that and I agree the game as a whole was poorly officiated but I don't see the big deal with that play specifically. Now that reverse lay-up and 1...

      If Russ would've hit him it wouldv'e been a T
      In the grand scheme of thing, it wasn't a big deal as I don't think it affected that play and it certainly didn't cause the Thunder to lose or anything like that. It's more a further reflection on the trash that is Joey Crawford. My man Spo was in front of him out on the court and he not only didn't call the tech (which we all know he likes calling his T's whenever the opportunity presents itself and even when it doesn't) he actually moved because his view was being blocked by the coach on the floor.

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      • BringTheHeat
        MVP
        • Jan 2012
        • 2264

        #2073
        Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
        In the grand scheme of thing, it wasn't a big deal as I don't think it affected that play and it certainly didn't cause the Thunder to lose or anything like that. It's more a further reflection on the trash that is Joey Crawford. My man Spo was in front of him out on the court and he not only didn't call the tech (which we all know he likes calling his T's whenever the opportunity presents itself and even when it doesn't) he actually moved because his view was being blocked by the coach on the floor.
        Yeah I don't like Joey either. But yeah who knows. I'm sure EPSN will be all over it tomorrow though
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        • boritter
          Pro
          • Mar 2006
          • 917

          #2074
          Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

          In Game 2 Durant had 3 rebounds. In Game 3 he had 6 rebounds.

          In Game 2 he had 1 assist. In Game 3 he had 0 assists.

          Durant is a lethal scorer but he needs to affect the game in other ways, too.
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          • Strangerstake
            Rookie
            • Jan 2010
            • 146

            #2075
            Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

            I dont know why all of you guys are blaming the refs for the outcomes of the games. Yeah they do have bad calls some favoring Miami, some favoring OKC. This is a stage where a true winner will be victorious. Heat have experience when it comes to games where their opponent cuts down a 10 point lead and gets to 1 point with a minute to go and I think they have learned a lot from it and are proving it now. On the other hand OKC is an amazing team but they look too young and confused sometimes during the game. Anything can happen here. Game 4 will be pivotal for both the teams. It will be a huge hit on the confidences of both teams no matter who wins. Durant has showed a will to win but I think Lebron has shown more in the last 2 games and I hope he does show it further.
            Even if OKC gets all the calls in the next games and there are many bad calls against Miami, I wouldn't blame the refs and would appreciate Thunder more for the team for their heart to win it all. While playing I have had games where the refs would literally talk to the opposing coaches beforehand and they might give in really bad calls sometimes. IWe won some and we lost some but I never had anyone from our team blame the refs and just thought that maybe we lacked something or maybe the other team just played better.
            Blaming the refs isnt the right thing, if a player or a team wants to win more then anything, he/they will do anything and everything for it
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            • JerzeyReign
              MVP
              • Jul 2009
              • 4847

              #2076
              Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

              Originally posted by BringTheHeat
              So...what did Spo do wrong again? Russ didn't hit him.

              What about Thabo's turnover? Or Harden's silly flop attempt? That's what killed them.
              This is Operation Sports -- that one play changed the whole game. You didn't see that Spo changed Westbrook's mind and completely altered the course of history? Don't mind that Crawford was on their sideline and Spo didn't have anywhere to go but on the court -- nevermind that fact. We'll be Stevie Wonder to that.

              Has their been a game in which someone hasn't complained about the refs on here? lol -- this ish kray!
              #WashedGamer

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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #2077
                If I remember correctly, Durants first two fouls were garbage.

                After that, there was an unnecessary reach in on LeBron (for the third time this series), a 50/50 call on a pump fake, have to stay out of the air on that one, and an ill advised charge attempt. OKC also gave MIA 6 FTs in about a minute on some stupid fouls on 3 pointers.

                All in all, this game was not decided by officiating IMO. It was just a great effort by MIA and a fun game to watch overall..

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                • Drewski
                  Basketball Reasons
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 3783

                  #2078
                  Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                  Pretty good game last night, unfortunately for OKC they really let one slip away. Was exciting to watch, and I definitely appreciated the earlier start as I got to crash out at a reasonable time.

                  In the words of Matrix, these losers can't even bother with making their free throws, they deserve to lose. All series OKC has struggled making their free throws and it's going to haunt them if/when they get bounced my Miami. They played one of their more complete games of the series and couldn't get it done at the line. When they're having such a hard time making buckets, those freebies are necessary.

                  OKC's interior defense has done a horrific job helping on drives, and even when Perkins/Ibaka do, it generally turns into a foul. Speaking of which, Ibaka's lack of defensive fundamentals is being put out there for everyone to see. He seems incapable of staying on his feet if his man even touches the ball around the rim. Perkins and Ibaka need to be ready for the dribble drives because that is the bread and butter of Wade/Bron, it surprises me that they seem highly unaware of their defensive positioning.

                  Miami's defense has been doing a pretty good job at protecting the rim, on the other hand. While Bosh didn't have much of a game by the numbers, he made some great plays defensively that helped put Miami over the top.

                  Next game will likely be do-or-die for OKC. Don't see them being able to take three straight from Miami. If OKC can pull out a win it's still up in the air.
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                  • JerzeyReign
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 4847

                    #2079
                    Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                    One thing for certain when this series is over -- the torch will be passed and whoever wins will be infected with that 'Michael Jordan Syndrome' -- that addicted to rings disease
                    #WashedGamer

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                    • TradeMelo
                      Rookie
                      • May 2012
                      • 21

                      #2080
                      Is this thread about the actual play on the court or the officials? Seems like majority of the posts are about how bad the officials are.

                      Anyways. Good win for the Heat. I have a feeling this may not go back to Oklahoma City.

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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #2081
                        Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                        I think Scott Brooks should look into playing a little a zone tomorrow. And maybe changing the starting line ups. To match up with the Heat smaller line up.

                        And in regards to Kevin Durants fouls. I think he needs to figure it out. I would say of all the calls he got. Probably 2 of them were questionable. Everything else looked legit in my opinion.


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                        • Boltman
                          L.A. to S.D. to HI
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 18283

                          #2082
                          Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                          In watching a few of those YouTube clips I read a post that caught my eye. A few others (24th & Drewski) posted as much here already.

                          Yep lets blame the Joey Crawford and the rest of the refs for OKC shooting 15-24 from the free throw line, fouling TWO 3 point shooters, and getting out-rebounded....yep.

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                          • JerzeyReign
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 4847

                            #2083
                            Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                            Originally posted by TradeMelo
                            Is this thread about the actual play on the court or the officials? Seems like majority of the posts are about how bad the officials are.

                            Anyways. Good win for the Heat. I have a feeling this may not go back to Oklahoma City.
                            Just give this thread 24 hours after the game and then it'll go back to the game and not the officials -- those first 23 hours after the game seem to follow this recipe.
                            #WashedGamer

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 17294

                              #2084
                              Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                              I know this has turned into the ****2012 NBA FINALS REFEREES DISCUSSION THREAD**** but I just want to say that the Miami Heat's help defense last night was outstanding. They really made it uncomfortable for the Thunder inside.
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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #2085
                                Re: ****2012 NBA FINALS DISCUSSION THREAD****

                                Dude nobody is blaming the refs this game

                                For the most part those of us talking about the game on Harden, Durant, and to a lesser degree Brooks and WB

                                Joey always gives you a reason to question things he does, and its usually legit because he has an agenda

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