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  • ehh
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    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #241
    Re: 2014 Draft Class

    Originally posted by turty11
    roscoe smith of UNLV with another double double, with 19 rebounds....kids draft stock must be sky rocketing right now
    As a UConn fan - he can't shoot, dribble or pass and he's putting up huge rebounding numbers against gross competition. I'd still be amazed if he got drafted.

    Not like he's one of those monster under-sized rebounders. He's a string bean.
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    • turty11
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      • Apr 2013
      • 8923

      #242
      Re: 2014 Draft Class

      Originally posted by ehh
      As a UConn fan - he can't shoot, dribble or pass and he's putting up huge rebounding numbers against gross competition. I'd still be amazed if he got drafted.

      Not like he's one of those monster under-sized rebounders. He's a string bean.
      hes actually shown the ability to shoot and attack off the dribble this year, looks like he has filled out quite a bit since uconn
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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #243
        Re: 2014 Draft Class

        Very nice breakdown.

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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          • Dec 2006
          • 17294

          #244
          Re: 2014 Draft Class

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          Very nice breakdown.

          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/jIDYdSW2wew" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
          The defensive weakness part of the video looked like that video of James Harden's "defense" against the Clippers lol.
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          • jeebs9
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            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #245
            Re: 2014 Draft Class

            I kind of think you could make a video about every player in the league who loses their man in the background. I just saw nbadraft.net just dropped Andrew Wiggins in their mock draft.

            http://nbadraft.net/stock-watch-11

            And I'm kind of in agreement with the whole thing.
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            • turty11
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              • Apr 2013
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              #246
              Re: 2014 Draft Class

              i just wish they would use teams logic for their mock drafts..

              denver isnt taking a center, sac isnt taking a guard, cleveland isnt taking another PF, atlanta isnt taking a pg....i could go on but i think you get the point
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              • redsrule
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                • Apr 2010
                • 9396

                #247
                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                They don't do team logic until the lottery, because you have no idea which team will pick where. At least that is what I believe I have read before. The teams are just "placeholders" at this point.

                I don't like NBAdraft.net anyway, I think draftexpress is much better.
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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #248
                  Re: 2014 Draft Class

                  ^^ I totally agree. Draft express is much better. But I started on the site. So I like to check in once in a while. ^^

                  Originally posted by turty11
                  i just wish they would use teams logic for their mock drafts..

                  denver isnt taking a center, sac isnt taking a guard, cleveland isnt taking another PF, atlanta isnt taking a pg....i could go on but i think you get the point
                  But what is "logic" when it comes to the draft. Besides the first 3-5 teams. Every other team in my opinion kind does whatever they want. Because we could go through history and see some teams don't follow "needs" and don't care about the talent they already have. Great example would be the Hawks passing on Deron Williams and Chris Paul for Marvin Williams. And they needed a point guard badly lol.
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                  • ojandpizza
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                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #249
                    Re: 2014 Draft Class

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    ^^ I totally agree. Draft express is much better. But I started on the site. So I like to check in once in a while. ^^



                    But what is "logic" when it comes to the draft. Besides the first 3-5 teams. Every other team in my opinion kind does whatever they want. Because we could go through history and see some teams don't follow "needs" and don't care about the talent they already have. Great example would be the Hawks passing on Deron Williams and Chris Paul for Marvin Williams. And they needed a point guard badly lol.
                    Marvin Williams was just a horrible pick. I always felt that, even before the draft started when they were talking about him I was always against it.

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                    • ex carrabba fan
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #250
                      Re: 2014 Draft Class

                      Unless you have a hof player at the position who's in their prime, I wouldn't draft on need at all. Best available is much better logic for the nba draft as opposed to the nfl where there is a zillion picks


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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 17294

                        #251
                        Re: 2014 Draft Class

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        Unless you have a hof player at the position who's in their prime, I wouldn't draft on need at all. Best available is much better logic for the nba draft as opposed to the nfl where there is a zillion picks


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                        Exactly why I'm arguing with some Bucks fans that taking one of the wings (when we're trying to develop Giannis) or taking Embiid or Randle (when we have Sanders and Henson) is the right move. Wiggins, Randle, Parker, and Embiid are my top 4, and you could make an argument that none of them really fit a need for Milwaukee (if the young guys in place actually reach their potential). The positions of desperate need are PG and SG, but I'd much rather get one of the 4 guys I mentioned above. You can always trade a guy like Henson or Sanders and get value for them.
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                        • turty11
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #252
                          Re: 2014 Draft Class

                          if im the bucks i take whomever the best player available is, regardless of position, but i would favor PG/SF over the other 3 positions
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                          • redsrule
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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #253
                            Re: 2014 Draft Class

                            I think Willie Cauley-Stein will be a better pro than Embiid. He runs the floor extremely well, and I think he is even more dangerous on the defensive end as well. Both need to improve on their post games, but WCS is better right now and he has a lot of potential as well.
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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #254
                              Re: 2014 Draft Class

                              Kentucky getting all the calls but Baylor hanging in right now.

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                              • Caveman24
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                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1352

                                #255
                                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                                Originally posted by redsrule
                                I think Willie Cauley-Stein will be a better pro than Embiid. He runs the floor extremely well, and I think he is even more dangerous on the defensive end as well. Both need to improve on their post games, but WCS is better right now and he has a lot of potential as well.
                                I won't go that far. I do think he will go pretty damn high considering he just started playing ball. That and every year everybody tried to find the next great big.
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