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  • RedSceptile
    MVP
    • Jun 2011
    • 3680

    #271
    Re: 2014 Draft Class

    Uhhhhhhh with the top pick even if you really need a Center you dont pick Embiid over Randle, Wiggins, or Parker. Talent>Need.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #272
      Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
      I don't know. Whenever I've seen WCS play, I've thought he outhustled most of the players on the court. I see him beat the other team's guards down the court a lot.

      Regarding Wiggins, I thought he looked pretty good on both ends today. Definitely a step up from the past couple games.
      Maybe it's not lack of effort then. He look lazy to me in half court sets, slow rotating.. Not lazy as in running up and down.. Maybe it's not laziness, maybe it's just lack of awareness getting lost on plays.

      I only caught the last 8 minutes or so. Wiggins kept getting took off the dribble. Fatigue could have been a factor at that point though.
      Last edited by ojandpizza; 12-07-2013, 07:43 PM.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #273
        Re: 2014 Draft Class

        I just can't think of any of the teams who should pick Randle over Parker or probably even Wiggins and Smart.. Maybe a team who already has lots of talent.. I just think he'll develop a little slower on the next stage. Don't see him being the immediate go-to rookie some of these other guys might be.

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        • turty11
          All Star
          • Apr 2013
          • 8923

          #274
          Re: 2014 Draft Class

          Originally posted by RedSceptile
          Uhhhhhhh with the top pick even if you really need a Center you dont pick Embiid over Randle, Wiggins, or Parker. Talent>Need.
          what if you already have a SF and PF you want already? i cant think of a single team who would be picking #1 who has said lineup off the top of my head but if they really want a center who knows.. i dont think he will be top 3, but i wont be suprised if he is
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          • Halloween
            Rookie
            • Apr 2013
            • 203

            #275
            Re: 2014 Draft Class

            Don't forget Marcus Smart. Depending on the team, he could go from 2 to any position. Yet I think Jabari is a lock for 1. He's crazy. Wiggins is a bit of a gamble imo, he could turn out as the best player in his class (which means franchise player) but also could turn out as an athletic swingman only. I also have Randle on 2 right now, he's a bigman with skill, teams drafting high love that.

            I wish for the Kings to get a high lottery pick...they are fun to watch already and they are losing. They're Marcus Smart away from becoming serious business.

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            • turty11
              All Star
              • Apr 2013
              • 8923

              #276
              Re: 2014 Draft Class

              eh, i think sac takes parker or randle over smart, they need an upgrade in all 3 spots, so you just take best player there
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              • RedSceptile
                MVP
                • Jun 2011
                • 3680

                #277
                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                Originally posted by turty11
                what if you already have a SF and PF you want already? i cant think of a single team who would be picking #1 who has said lineup off the top of my head but if they really want a center who knows.. i dont think he will be top 3, but i wont be suprised if he is
                Picking need over talent has never done anyone any good ever.

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                • turty11
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 8923

                  #278
                  Re: 2014 Draft Class

                  Originally posted by RedSceptile
                  Picking need over talent has never done anyone any good ever.
                  so your telling me if the heat have the by far best prospect was a center, the kings would take him? i dont think so >>
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                  • RedSceptile
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 3680

                    #279
                    Re: 2014 Draft Class

                    Originally posted by turty11
                    so your telling me if the heat have the by far best prospect was a center, the kings would take him? i dont think so >>
                    I don't know what you're asking but if the best prospect (i.e. talent) is whoever you take him first.

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                    • turty11
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 8923

                      #280
                      Re: 2014 Draft Class

                      Originally posted by RedSceptile
                      I don't know what you're asking but if the best prospect (i.e. talent) is whoever you take him first.
                      lol sorry weird *** control paste typo.

                      what im saying is you DONT take the best talent if you dont need it..

                      thats essentially saying the blazers would take a PG because hes the best player, but what purpose would that serve them.
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                      • RedSceptile
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3680

                        #281
                        Re: 2014 Draft Class

                        Originally posted by turty11
                        lol sorry weird *** control paste typo.

                        what im saying is you DONT take the best talent if you dont need it..

                        thats essentially saying the blazers would take a PG because hes the best player, but what purpose would that serve them.
                        Historically taking need over the best player there. There's far more cases that lead on the talent side.

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #282
                          Re: 2014 Draft Class

                          Originally posted by turty11
                          lol sorry weird *** control paste typo.

                          what im saying is you DONT take the best talent if you dont need it..

                          thats essentially saying the blazers would take a PG because hes the best player, but what purpose would that serve them.
                          Well obviously there are exceptions but most of the time you would be better off picking best player available in my opinion.


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                          • redsrule
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #283
                            Re: 2014 Draft Class

                            Originally posted by turty11
                            meh, not sure u can call noel better than embiid...noel is a defensive player and really has 0 semblance of an offensive game...embiid has the potential to be a very good 2 way player.
                            I'll say this to you as well. I don't think you watched many Kentucky games. Noel is a fantastic defender. The best defensive player I have seen at Kentucky. His offense needs a lot of work, but he showed some promise there before the knee injury. He showed he was a good passer out of the post and was developing a bit of a hook shot before he got injured. Noel has the potential to be dominant on one side of the ball and decent on the other. Isn't that what Dwight Howard is? I'm obviously not comparing the two.


                            Regarding the need/talent thing, like Ex said there are obvious exceptions, but you pick the most talented player and try and make it work. If you have a top SF already but have a chance to get Wiggins or Parker you take them over reaching for someone that fits a "need". In the NBA more than any other sport, a star can change the complete outlook of a franchise, and for the teams that can't get the top FA's, you have to take that chance.
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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #284
                              Re: 2014 Draft Class

                              If you can't make it work, then you trade one of them and get extra assets in return. Take the BPA.
                              "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                              • turty11
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 8923

                                #285
                                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                                well, nerlens wont do anything but be a help blocker unless he puts on 15 pouounds thats for sure.. i didnt watch alot of kentucky but i watched enough to see he is severely limited offensively
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