2014 Draft Discussion

[turty11]

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If I remember right, what Boeheim said is that there are no generational players in this draft. I think there's a big difference.

im just going off what they told us on nba countdown >> dont blame me if its faulty info!

regardless, i dont agree with either of them...parker and possibly randle/wiggins are franchise guys IMO (if they develop)


i think lebron killed it for everyone...if someone doesnt wow us in every second of the game they start to get written off as a non superstar/franchiser

[cavsfan2]

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Seldon is looking real good for Kansas

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Seldon is looking real good for Kansas

Him, Wiggins, and Embiid all did a lot of nice things today IMO.

[ehh]

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Parker's last four games...

12 pts on 5-13
7 pts on 2-10
12 pts on 4-12
15 pts on 5-13

That's 11.5 ppg on 33% shooting.

I didn't watch any of those games so I don't know the details. Is he banged up? I know he got benched or had some mini-beef with Coach K in the ND game.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Parker's last four games...

12 pts on 5-13
7 pts on 2-10
12 pts on 4-12
15 pts on 5-13

That's 11.5 ppg on 33% shooting.

I didn't watch any of those games so I don't know the details. Is he banged up? I know he got benched or had some mini-beef with Coach K in the ND game.

I've heard concerns that he just isn't in good shape from his injury a year ago and he's just getting tired.

[jeebs9]

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im just going off what they told us on nba countdown >> dont blame me if its faulty info!

regardless, i dont agree with either of them...parker and possibly randle/wiggins are franchise guys IMO (if they develop)


i think lebron killed it for everyone...if someone doesnt wow us in every second of the game they start to get written off as a non superstar/franchiser

That last part is so true. It's really hard for any other player. LeBron did it a totally different way. He had eyes on him since his soph -jr year in hs (similar to Parker). But he has always upped his performance every time the hype has been upped.

The only thing I wonder about LeBron is what would happen if he went to college. He dominated every All star game he was in HS. I could only imagine he would of done the same.

[turty11]

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he probably would have 4-peated (seems like the guy who would stay knowing he can win it every year)

his career would be so different.....never in cleveland, heat never win this past 2 rings....can you imagine what the NBA would be like had he gone #1 in the draft after 4 years of college?

bron would be in portland....KD might be in atlanta....oden would have wrecked OKC/seattles future.....boston would probably have never gotten the big 3 and drafted horford instead to play the 4 next to jefferson....

wow


i dont see anyone in any drafts anymore who can completely change the shape of the NBA like that

[redsrule]

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That last part is so true. It's really hard for any other player. LeBron did it a totally different way. He had eyes on him since his soph -jr year in hs (similar to Parker). But he has always upped his performance every time the hype has been upped.

The only thing I wonder about LeBron is what would happen if he went to college. He dominated every All star game he was in HS. I could only imagine he would of done the same.

He would have averaged 30+ points a game in college with no issues. Would have made whatever team he went to an instant national title challenging team (if they weren't already). Wiggins got so much hype, which a lot was fueled because of youtube/twitter/facebook. That stuff wasn't around when he was in high school or his hype would have been even more astronomical.

[MattUM]

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Lebron's high school games were always sold out. Look at the crowds in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nJ0MzIhrBz0#t=88

[turty11]

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if twitter was as big as it is now back when lebron was in HS the internet would probably have exploded....which is why i still cant fathom anyone comparing wiggins, or ANY player to lebron

[turty11]

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DX still has wiggins going #1 and has the c's taking exum....um what...id rather reach for WCS at #5 than take another freaking PG

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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DX still has wiggins going #1 and has the c's taking exum....um what...id rather reach for WCS at #5 than take another freaking PG

Exum can definitely play SG in the NBA if whatever team drafts him wants to play him there.

Regardless, DraftExpress doesn't factor in the teams to their mock drafts until after the draft order is set. For now, their mock just serves as a big board.

A couple interesting things that I noticed from their updated mock is:
1. Tyler Ennis now at #20 in their mock (which I really don't understand as a Cuse fan, but it is what it is. I don't think he'll leave regardless.)
2. Zach LaVine as a 2nd rounder. I just can't fathom that.
3. McDermott at 12. Has he improved a lot from last year? I've always thought he'd be a solid role player but nothing more. Seems pretty high for a guy like that in this year's draft.
4. Hood and James Young at 13 and 14 seems a little low to me.
5. A new international prospect that I haven't heard of is at 19: Jusuf Nurkic
6. Seldon has dropped to 23
7. The colossal fall of James Michael McAdoo. Could have been a top 5 pick a couple years ago and is now a middle of the 2nd round pick. Just insane.

[redsrule]

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Exum can definitely play SG in the NBA if whatever team drafts him wants to play him there.

Regardless, DraftExpress doesn't factor in the teams to their mock drafts until after the draft order is set. For now, their mock just serves as a big board.

A couple interesting things that I noticed from their updated mock is:
1. Tyler Ennis now at #20 in their mock (which I really don't understand as a Cuse fan, but it is what it is. I don't think he'll leave regardless.)
2. Zach LaVine as a 2nd rounder. I just can't fathom that.
3. McDermott at 12. Has he improved a lot from last year? I've always thought he'd be a solid role player but nothing more. Seems pretty high for a guy like that in this year's draft.
4. Hood and James Young at 13 and 14 seems a little low to me.
5. A new international prospect that I haven't heard of is at 19: Jusuf Nurkic
6. Seldon has dropped to 23
7. The colossal fall of James Michael McAdoo. Could have been a top 5 pick a couple years ago and is now a middle of the 2nd round pick. Just insane.

1. Agreed, I think he stays at least one more year unless he has a huge NCAA tournament.
2. Don't think he is a second rounder, but he isn't a lottery guy either imo yet.
3. Agreed. I think he gets picked in the 20's.
4. Agreed on Young. I think he'll end up as a top 7-8 pick when all is said and done. He has a good stroke, despite his shooting percentages and is extremely athletic.
6. If Seldon keeps playing like he has in the last 2 games he'll be a lottery pick again.
7. Roy Williams for you.

[ojandpizza]

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Heat will/should take McAdoo in the first.. He's going to be one of those guys who lost his draft stock in college but becomes a decent pro.. Whoever drafts him that late will get a steal IMO.

Plus his dad coaches there

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Heat will/should take McAdoo in the first.. He's going to be one of those guys who lost his draft stock in college but becomes a decent pro.. Whoever drafts him that late will get a steal IMO.

Plus his dad coaches there

Yeah, he's clearly proven he isn't worthy of a top 5 pick like teams once thought he might be, but a guy with his body and ability to knock down mid range jumpers has a place in the NBA for sure IMO. I can't envision him not being a late 1st round pick.