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  • SteelersFreak
    All Star
    • May 2004
    • 9582

    #3901
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    I would actually say Wade's market, or lack of, also has a little to do with teams knowing he isn't going anywhere.


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    But don't you think if Bron and Bosh are getting offers to go elsewhere, there would be ONE other team that is interested in Wade's talents? I know he's been there a long time but Dirk's situation isn't just because he's been there, he's said for like two years that he was going to re-sign at a discount when his contract ran out.
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    • MattUM
      MVP
      • Aug 2013
      • 1051

      #3902
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Wade is too old and wants too much money, money that only Miami will actually give him. You aren't gonna offer Wade $15m+ when you could get a much younger Lance for like $12m.
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      • BringTheHeat
        MVP
        • Jan 2012
        • 2264

        #3903
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by MattUM
        Wade is too old and wants too much money, money that only Miami will actually give him. You aren't gonna offer Wade $15m+ when you could get a much younger Lance for like $12m.
        Sad thing is though is that Wade is still a top 3 SG. Says a lost about the SG depth of the league
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        • wwharton
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #3904
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by 13
          We'll just ignore the hyperbole here.



          Didn't know me suggesting Nick Young meant breaking the bank (Signed for 3.7, and 1.1 million the past two years. Well within Chicago's range). This also ignores the fact that they let Belinelli walk for the same price as Dunleavy who from an offensive ability standpoint at this point, is half the player that Belinelli is, which is what we desperately needed. Between him and Robinson, they were our best creators on offense the last 3rd of the season.

          And if you've been in here, you'd know that I have denounced our pursuit of Carmelo on multiple occasions
          I honestly don't know what you're talking about bc you replied to a post I made. I didn't say anything about Nick Young (I agree he'd be a good signing for them but I think he wants more than he's worth), and didn't say anything about Belinelli. I would have included him in my list of examples if I remembered about him. I don't know why he left, and don't really care because that's not the point I was making.

          All I was saying is teams shouldn't be focusing on big names but pieces to fit what they need, and used the Bulls as an example. Lots of names have been thrown out for the Heat that fit what I'm saying (I think oj and ex both through out some good ones). My post wasn't directed at you or anyone else.

          No one said it was. The generalizations aren't needed.
          Again, you replied to me... I was making a general point. No idea why you're taking any of it personally.

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          • wwharton
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2002
            • 26949

            #3905
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by BringTheHeat
            Sad thing is though is that Wade is still a top 3 SG. Says a lost about the SG depth of the league
            Says more about how people take general perception and run with it.

            Wade averaged almost 20, 5 and 5 last year. Clearly we can pull stats to show that he's still a top SG in the league. But if you told me you needed a shooting guard to play at a high level for 70+ games, his name wouldn't come up for a while.

            His true value is somewhere in the middle, making him unpredictable. I don't know why so many are acting like he's done, he's far from it. I'm sure most teams would love to have him, but not many will risk tying up that much money into a player they don't know how many games they can get out of at a high level.

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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #3906
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by BringTheHeat
              Sad thing is though is that Wade is still a top 3 SG. Says a lost about the SG depth of the league
              Not necessarily, but that's for the off-topic thread. Depending on how much Wade can actually even play during the regular season, one could argue Klay, Beal and DeRozan could slide past.

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              • RocketTMac1
                MVP
                • Sep 2006
                • 1864

                #3907
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by BringTheHeat
                Sad thing is though is that Wade is still a top 3 SG. Says a lost about the SG depth of the league
                1. Harden
                2. Klay Thompson
                3. Bradley Beal
                4. Demar Derozan
                5. Monta Ellis
                6. Bean Bryant
                7. Dwayne Wade

                Makes 7 on my list
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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #3908
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Wade aint done by any means, within the context of free agency though which was the discussion, he aint commanding much. In terms of Wade the player going into next season, top 10 guard for sure but he'll be in a very specific role, more unique than any of the other 2-guards

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                  • King_B_Mack
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #3909
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    No, no, no, no. We're not about to do this top rankings list in here y'all. Come on now. Let's just move along.

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #3910
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 10m
                      Spurs staying diligent on free agent Pau Gasol, but Bulls and Thunder -- with Lakers lurking -- lead the way, sources tell Yahoo.
                      Spurs still looking for Pau.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #3911
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Rather have Pau go to the Bulls or Thunder to even it all out man. Spurs aint need no Pau Gasol lol

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                        • RocketTMac1
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1864

                          #3912
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          Spurs still looking for Pau.
                          My goodness I would love to see that happen
                          The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #3913
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            I can kinda get behind the idea of signing Pau when we miss out on Melo as a possible precursor to moving Taj in a trade for Love.

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                            • Dice
                              Sitting by the door
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6627

                              #3914
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              Rather have Pau go to the Bulls or Thunder to even it all out man. Spurs aint need no Pau Gasol lol
                              I think the Spurs are much better with Gasol. A deep team adding more depth. I agree that they don't need him, but they could sure use him.

                              I don't see where he fits in with the Bulls. Gasol plays a position where your two best front court players in Noah and Taj play. And although he's better than both of them in terms of the player he is, he's not as important to the Bulls as Noah and not as valuable to the Bulls as Taj.

                              As far as the Thunder, he's a significant upgrade from Perkins. Them adding Gasol increases their chances on the championship...oh wait...they still have Scott Brooks coaching...nevermind.
                              I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #3915
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Originally posted by Dice
                                I think the Spurs are much better with Gasol. A deep team adding more depth. I agree that they don't need him, but they could sure use him.

                                I don't see where he fits in with the Bulls. Gasol plays a position where your two best front court players in Noah and Taj play. And although he's better than both of them in terms of the player he is, he's not as important to the Bulls as Noah and not as valuable to the Bulls as Taj.

                                As far as the Thunder, he's a significant upgrade from Perkins. Them adding Gasol increases their chances on the championship...oh wait...they still have Scott Brooks coaching...nevermind.
                                Of course the Spurs could use Gasol lol. That's what I'm saying, spread the wealth.

                                How do you not see Noah fitting well with Gasol? That's a perfect fit, Gasol can be soft and let Noah handle the dirty work while Noah can let Gasol spread the floor with his midrange. The post passing would be amazing between the two. That's a perfect fit bro lol

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