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  • MattUM
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    • Aug 2013
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    #541
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by SteelersFreak
    lol no thanks.
    You wouldn't want Hill? From what I've seen he's friends with Monta. He'd help your backcourt improve defensively by a mile. Calderon is turning 33 and you can easily replace his 3pt shooting in FA. You guys seem to not want anything to do with Larkin lol. Good trade for both IMO.
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    • SteelersFreak
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      • May 2004
      • 9582

      #542
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by MattUM
      You wouldn't want Hill? From what I've seen he's friends with Monta. He'd help your backcourt improve defensively by a mile. Calderon is turning 33 and you can easily replace his 3pt shooting in FA. You guys seem to not want anything to do with Larkin lol. Good trade for both IMO.
      I don't think he's starting point guard material and he's costing $8 mil per year through 2017.
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      • MattUM
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        #543
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by SteelersFreak
        I don't think he's starting point guard material and he's costing $8 mil per year through 2017.
        Calderon has like the exact same contract but through 2016. Does Monta play any PG or is he just a SG?
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        • ex carrabba fan
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          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #544
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by MattUM
          You wouldn't want Hill? From what I've seen he's friends with Monta. He'd help your backcourt improve defensively by a mile. Calderon is turning 33 and you can easily replace his 3pt shooting in FA. You guys seem to not want anything to do with Larkin lol. Good trade for both IMO.
          Calderon isn't just a 3 point shooter, he's an exceptional quarterback. Doesn't turn it over, facilitates the offensive sets and is a very steady presence.

          The Mavs do not need what George Hill can offer Dirk needs a quarterback not a combo guard.

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          • SteelersFreak
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            • May 2004
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            #545
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            Calderon isn't just a 3 point shooter, he's an exceptional quarterback. Doesn't turn it over, facilitates the offensive sets and is a very steady presence.

            The Mavs do not need what George Hill can offer Dirk needs a quarterback not a combo guard.
            Hit the nail on the head.

            George Hill is barely a point guard. This offense needs a point guard. There's a reason Dirk had a horrible year in 2012-2013 with the likes of Darren Collison and Mike James running the point. Collison could barely even throw him a damn entry pass.

            EDIT: To answer your question on Monta's position Matt, he plays both. His primary position is definitely at the 2 but he will be the primary ball handler and run the offense at times, though if he's at the point, he's typically just the ball handler in the PnR, something he's pretty good at.
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            • MattUM
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              • Aug 2013
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              #546
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Yeah I wouldn't have known about all that by just looking at his stats. I saw him with only 11 points and 5 assists per game so I assumed he'd just be shooting 3s all game and hitting people when open with all the offense coming from Dirk & Monta. At least with Hill you'd get some athleticism and defense I thought. Apparently he's actually crucial to the offense. Trading him would be like us trading Rio...he doesn't get all the numbers but is a perfect fit in our system.
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              • JODYE
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                • May 2012
                • 4834

                #547
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Calderon might be the most underrated PG in the league in terms of actual on court value. He may not put up huge numbers but he does the little things well that you need a PG to do. He protects the ball, has one of the highest assist ratios among starting PGs and shoots the 3 exceptionally well.

                Just to give you an idea, Jose and Chris Paul are the only starting PGs in the league to sport an average AST/TO ratio of over 4 (Both at 4.09) and Jose is the only PG in the last decade to average an AST/TO ratio of over 5 (5.38 to be exact) for an entire season. Pretty special stuff.

                But, that is what happens when you play a majority of your career in Toronto. People forget about you.
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                • SteelersFreak
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                  • May 2004
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                  #548
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  I will say that Calderon had one of the weaker years of his career this past year and I know he's a complete sieve defensively, but his shooting isn't as easily replaceable as it seems because he's one of the best shooters in the league and he's one of the smartest guys in the league as well.

                  I'm not very high on Larkin but if Calderon stays around and the Mavs resign Devin Harris, those are two pretty good guys to be learning under, especially with Larkin's skill set.
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                  • MattUM
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                    • Aug 2013
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                    #549
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    I automatically like Larkin for obvious reasons. he's very quick and can light it up from 3. Has a lot to work on and doesn't have ideal size but I think he could be a starting PG eventually.
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                    • turty11
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                      • Apr 2013
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                      #550
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      ill take larkin as my backup PG , i like his game

                      but yeah calderon is prob the most consistent 3pt shooter in basketball. he is a perfect fit with monta/dirk
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                      • Caveman24
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                        #551
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Jose Calderon is the Alex Smith of Point Guards
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                        • turty11
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #552
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                          Originally posted by Caveman24
                          Jose Calderon is the Alex Smith of Point Guards
                          lol no, the alex smith of PG is someone who cant shoot a 3 ^^ moreso derek fisher esk
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                          • KSOR24
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #553
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Would a S&T of Pau Gasol to OKC for Perkins and the 21st pick be fair? Also taking on Boozer and Dunleavy for one of their first rounders if the Bulls knew they were going to get Melo?

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                            • ojandpizza
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                              Can OKC afford Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Boozer, Gasol, and Dunleavy? lol


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                              • KSOR24
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                                • Jul 2011
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                                #555
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                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                Can OKC afford Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Boozer, Gasol, and Dunleavy? lol


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                                Oh no I meant the Lakers taking on all those contracts lmao

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