2014 Off-Season Thread

[The 24th Letter]

2014 Off-Season Thread

Why does Lebron now want max $$$ now, where the formula for his championship success would require him to take a paycut? If I were Kevin love that would be a red flag for me.

If LeBron wants a maximum contract, he's more than earned it. This isn't some new demand the Cav's just learned about....they knew this when they got him...

[cavsfan2]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

I want them to keep Wiggins for the record. Let's see what these guys can do without trading for Love for one season.

Unless Cleveland is worried they may not land him in the off season if they don't aquire him now via trade.

Would the Wolves be able to Sign and Trade Love next July? Because if they can acquiring him would be fairly easy for the Cavs.

First of all, Brendan Haywood's contract is constructed in a weird way. Next season (meaning the 2015-2016 season) he is due 10.5 million, but its all unguaranteed. Essentially he will become a trade exception because whoever trades for him can cut him without owing him a dime. Then, they Cavs just have to make up the difference in salary probably with Bennett to give the Wolves some motivation to do it.

If this is possible this is without a doubt my favorite solution.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Apparently Minnesota posted a picture of Mo Williams shooting a free throw with LeBron standing behind him during their time in Cleveland. With the caption "The Minnesota Timberwolves yesterday announced that the team has signed guard Mo Williams. Welcome to the team, Mo!".. This according to bleacher report is hinting that he's being traded to Cleveland.



This is the picture they chose to welcome him with. Speculation definitely gets far too out of hand this time of year, but that is somewhat interesting considering they could have chosen a picture of just Mo.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Man with how efficient he's become and playing amongst other good scorers and shooters to take away some of the help and double teams, I can't wait to see what LeBron's numbers look like. Miami played in one of the slowest paces in the league, hopefully this team will get in transition a little more often and he can really flourish.. Not like he already doesn't though.

[SteelersFreak]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Apparently Minnesota posted a picture of Mo Williams shooting a free throw with LeBron standing behind him during their time in Cleveland. With the caption "The Minnesota Timberwolves yesterday announced that the team has signed guard Mo Williams. Welcome to the team, Mo!".. This according to bleacher report is hinting that he's being traded to Cleveland.



This is the picture they chose to welcome him with. Speculation definitely gets far too out of hand this time of year, but that is somewhat interesting considering they could have chosen a picture of just Mo.

Does seem like a weird choice of picture.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

One of the local beat writers in Cleveland, Bob Finnan, has said that the framework is set. Love and Brewer for Wiggins, Bennett and a 2018 1st is the basic framework. On phone so I cant link.

If true, thats a pretty damn good trade for the Cavaliers.

[AC]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

One of the local beat writers in Cleveland, Bob Finnan, has said that the framework is set. Love and Brewer for Wiggins, Bennett and a 2018 1st is the basic framework. On phone so I cant link.

If true, thats a pretty damn good trade for the Cavaliers.

Love has said he might not resign with anyone, Cavs or not.

http://www.news-herald.com/article/20140731/NEWS/140739876

In a rather new development, it now looks as if Love won’t sign an extension with any team in which he’s traded, even the Cavaliers. He can get far more money if he becomes a free agent in the summer of 2015, and re-signs with the team in which he is traded.
That puts considerably more risk in a trade, especially if the Cavaliers are giving up a prospect like Wiggins.

If that's true, giving up Wiggins would be completely foolish.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Love has said he might not resign with anyone, Cavs or not.

http://www.news-herald.com/article/20140731/NEWS/140739876

If that's true, giving up Wiggins would be completely foolish.

Read the last line of the article there.

Love would become a free agent only technically. Almost no way the Cavs and LeBron let him leave.

[OkayC]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

cavs should do as ive been saying all along. chill on the love trade, wait till hes a free agent, then go at him. You don't have to win this year, even with love you still might not win this year, so why give up wiggins for a long shot. You could save your players, and sign an extra in the summer. And if love doesn't come to cleveland, then the trade wouldve been moot any way, because then you'd be losing something, for essentially nothing.

[AC]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Read the last line of the article there.

Love would become a free agent only technically. Almost no way the Cavs and LeBron let him leave.

It a.) increases the risk and b.) lowers the potential surplus value by paying him even more.

Dealing Wiggins++ for Love is already a risky proposition. Wiggins' rookie contract could be insanely valuable. There's no need to add even more risk.

[cavsfan2]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

If Love doesnt sign the second the deal is done, forget about it. You dont risk nine years of Wiggins for one season of Love.

I wouldnt worry about it. When Wiggins was drafted the Cavs GM basically said that all reports in the media leading up to the draft were completely false. I highly doubt that media members became that much more informed in the past month and a half.

I'm sorry, but given the the precedent set by previous superstars who were traded, Wiggins shouldnt even be in the conversation.

[WTF]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

But remember the Cavs front office history. Sad... but true.

[cavsfan2]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

But remember the Cavs front office history. Sad... but true.

Im not sure, so far this new guy Griffin has made some really nice moves. Granted alot has fallen into his lap, but I feel like he has done a really good job so far.

Anyway, here's a good recap of what superstars getting traded has yielded.

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/29/nba-superstar-trade-kevin-love-carmelo-anthony-dwight-howard

Spoiler

Nothing is even close to giving up 2 former number one overall picks plus first rounders.

[WTF]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Yeah, I like Griffin a lot. Quite a lot actually.

I can't imagine that they don't see how poor our bench and defense will be. Surely, right?

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

If the framework is really Brewer and Love for Bennett and Wiggins and a pick...I don't really see how the bench and defense is taking a massive hit? That's not really a trade that guts the team...